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OUTLAWS: Episode 8, The Petersons - 04/22/2026

Display stream descriptionThis OUTLAWS episode is a long-form, highly critical breakdown of Jordan Peterson and his family, focusing on his rise to fame, ideological role in neutralizing white racial consciousness, his public meltdowns and health crises, and his daughter Mikhaila Peterson's diet-and-wellness grift. Devon and Rebecca walk through Peterson's career timeline, his media moments, his stated fear of white identitarian politics, his open philo-Semitism and Zionism, his benzo addiction and extreme medical interventions, and Mikhaila's autoimmune claims, carnivore diet business, plastic surgery, and personal scandals, all framed as a case study in controlled opposition, psychological instability, and moral failure toward young white men who saw Peterson as a father figure.
Full Summary
Devon Stack
00:01:00 You You Oh, oh, the intro. Didn't forgot to do the intro. Hey, it's Outlaws, everybody.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:03:59 Hey, folks. I'm Rebecca Hargraves, this is outlaws episode eight on the Petersons. I don't know I this was 10 years in the making. I've been waiting for this moment, yes, waiting for the moment to destroy Jordan Peterson and his whore daughter.
Devon Stack
00:04:16 I also forgot my little my little thing on the screen. My screen is black. Hang on a second, guys. Well, I power up my my internet II, I don't know what it is.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:04:25 My thing. It's okay. I got a little spiel. A big thanks to our sponsor, Antelope Hill. Please see the link below in the description on my YouTube channel for 10% off code outlaws. We'll talk about them later. And I want to give a big shout out to zigs discord, group that is watching this show in Florida on a trip that I failed to make because my children are too unruly to take them on a plane right now. I miss you guys. I'm so glad you're watching. Every single one of you is awesome. Thank you, Reinhardt, Reinhardt's wife, zig and everybody that is watching. I hope you guys are having the best. Best time. Look, he got his thing up. He did the thing. There you go. It was
Devon Stack
00:05:05 taking forever. I was like, bro, I thought it was gonna be broken for a second. But anyway, all right, guys, well, yeah, so why are we talking about the Petersons now? Like, I guess they're in the
Rebecca Hargraves
00:05:15 news again, right? So I always follow the Jordan Peterson news, because it's such like a this is a Shakespearean arc, and he has fallen from grace so spectacularly, and nobody is more deserving of it. So every time a clip comes out, I'm like, ooh and so Mikhaila Peterson came out with this clip this week about his failing neurological health, and it's just sprinkled with typical Peterson Munchausen by proxy. And I was like, so I messaged Devon. I'm like, I wish this was in the purview of the show. And he was like, Bitch, we could make it in the purview of the show. And I was like, that's true. They are really scammy. They are just scammy and gross Jew loving monsters. And you know, this is our show. We can do whatever we want. We can. We could do an episode on the Peterson so let's do it. And so we did, and I think it's going to be a great show. I'm very excited
Devon Stack
00:06:08 well, and weirdly, there are still a lot of people, as you said, like years ago when he became famous, at first, I was just kind of like, Oh, all right, whatever, whoever this guy is. And but then it rapidly became apparent to me that he was being pushed by the system, because no matter what you watched on YouTube, the auto play next video was always a Jordan Peterson video. Yeah, for several years it was like that, no matter what you watched, it would always be like, Oh, now you get to listen to Jordan Peterson talk about something.
00:06:37 And so I started looking into it, and I was like, Oh, this is, this is why there's a problem. And people would get so mad at me because he did have like a cult, and probably still does had like a cult, like following. So the second you would start to criticize him, well, it would all these people would come out of the woodwork and start defending him. And basically because he had become, in many ways, their Savior. I mean, he'd become their spiritual leader and and so it was. It was really frustrating having to deal with that.
00:07:06 And I'm assuming there are probably still people like that now, even in the audience today. So I'm going to do a little recap. I thought that we would go over step by step exact, because there might be people who you know, because it's been a long time now, there might be even people that don't even know who this guy is. Know who this guy is. So we're gonna go like to the rock through the rise, like how he became who he was, and how he got to where we are today. So let's take a little look here first. Let's, let's start off with, with this little clip here.
Dr. Murdoch
00:07:40 I pygmies. We lost to pygmies.
Murdoch
00:07:48 Try looking on the bright side. Since we got our new coach, my penis has never been cleaner.
Coach Peterson
00:07:53 All right, guys, come on in for the huddle. You know, it's just like so she needs and when he talks about the world and how it revolves around Mithra, what we see is the boy who goes out and fights the dragon, and in that act, he's ultimately learning how to be better than just himself, but also he has the individual capacity to look towards himself, and that's the winning goal. It's not about scoring points, but rather going home and individually washing your penis,
Dr. Murdoch
00:08:29 sure, but isn't the point of the game to win? What's the point of playing if we just lose
Devon Stack
00:08:35 all the time? Indeed, in this episode, they really kind of nail it. They nail the nail it right on the head. In terms of his message, was it, you know, don't do the winning strategy. And in fact, he'll, well, as you'll soon see, he actually says this. He actually says we should not be trying to win, and that it's, it's this hyper individualism that he's that he's obsessed with, and so as long as you try as an individual, that's all that really matters. It doesn't matter if your team wins. So where he came from was he was in relative obscurity.
00:08:58 Prior to 2016 he was a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto since 1998 he went to Harvard from 93 to 98 in fact, he published his book maps of meaning to little to no fanfare in 1999 before he was famous, it was just, you know, kind of this nothing book that no one get really gave a shit. About around 2013 he started a YouTube channel and started uploading his lectures and him talking about maps of meaning, which is like his, you know, self self help book, really and really didn't have much of.
00:09:59 A profile outside of just, you know, other professors knowing who he was. And then his big breakout came in, 2016 September, 27 2016 and this was at the peak of all the trans well, not actually, not really the peak, I guess, like when the trans stuff started, really jumped the shark, and Canada was trying to pass a law saying that if you misgendered someone, or if you use the wrong pronoun, you can go to jail. And it was just getting to like, such a degree of craziness that and at this
Rebecca Hargraves
00:10:38 point, everybody kind of thought he was innocuous. At a minimum. We didn't know very much about him, but people were like, at least he's talking about the gender ideology issue, which was a huge issue, especially in Canada in 2016
Devon Stack
00:10:52 Well, in the other the other attraction was too, I think it was a it was the idea the a special thing of, think of Mike Maga boomers who think, oh, liberal professors, fucking liberal. And so just like when they see a based black guy, when you have a base liberal professor, it's the same thing, like the it was the Maga poison pill. So they're, they're just, they wanted to, oh, look, see, they want us to make a sound like we're just a bunch of Luddites, and they're the academics. But look, here's the smart guy that has all these degrees. He went to Harvard, and he's saying it's crazy too, and he's Canadian,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:11:25 yeah, and that was before the collapse of the higher level institutions. And so it actually meant something to be a professor at Harvard. It meant something to be a psychology professor at University of Toronto. So he had this credibility, absolutely.
Devon Stack
00:11:39 So he got a lot of media coverage and obviously a lot of pushback.
00:11:43 There were all these videos that would go viral of him talking to students about how you know you shouldn't have to, you shouldn't be you know, you should be allowed to call someone by whatever pronouns you want, and and all this sort of a thing that got him invited onto Joe Rogan, and that is when, you know, things really started to move for him after his Joe Rogan appearance, his Patreon started to it went from $1,000 a month or so to 10s of 1000s of dollars a month, and he became, I wouldn't say a household name yet, but certainly on household name in terms of online political type people.
00:12:28 He then, in 2017 testified before the Canadian Parliament, or whatever they do, whatever they this is the Senate against Bill C 16, and so this is a clip from him talking about his position on the radicalization that's been going on.
Canadian Senator
00:12:57 Some of your critics say, why can you not just respect your students? Just use the gender neutral pronouns? How do you respond to that?
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:13:07 Well, first of all, I'd have to be convinced that doing so would do more good than harm, and I don't believe that. And I think I'm actually in a reasonable position to justify my claim. I think that the danger that's intrinsic to the law far outweighs whatever potential benefit it might produce, especially given that there's no hard evidence whatsoever for any benefit.
Devon Stack
00:13:29 So yeah, he sounded pretty reasonable, like, oh yeah, he's, he's, he's well spoken to some extent, or at least it appears to be. The more you hear him talk, the more you start to realize that there's just a lot of word salad. But yeah, like, if you haven't heard much from him, he's like, Alright, sounds intelligent.
00:13:47 He's intelligently laying out his, you know, his reasoning for not wanting to to call a man a woman, that sort of a thing. So you also had this case become in the new or go in the news around the same time. This was the case of what was Lindsay Shepherd? So Lindsay Shepherd was a, was she a professor and assistant professor? Think she was a TA, okay, and, and she was, I think all she did was she, she showed, like, a Jordan Peterson video,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:14:27 neutral about it,
Devon Stack
00:14:29 yes, right, yeah. She didn't present it like, Oh, this is what I think she presented it like, what do you guys think of his arguments about this obviously pertinent case that's going on, and they threatened to fire her and ruin her life.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:14:46 She recorded the conversations, and they were outrageous or outrageous about how she's supporting extremism because of her neutrality, even by today's standards, it's mind boggling.
Devon Stack
00:14:58 Yeah. Right? So they, excuse me, they were calling her a Nazi and this sort of a thing. So it just added to this momentum that this story was having in the in the news, because you had this salacious secret recording of these psycho leftists, you know, professors talking down to her.
00:15:21 And then the thing the interview that really, I think, made Jordan Peterson a household name, was he went on an interview with the BBC, with Kathy Newman, and she was just atrocious, like she was so bad that the interview was like, it was comical, like you were just watching it was like watching a train wreck, and everyone watched this fucking interview. This is where I play a cut. This has been edited for humor, but I'm telling you, from the just it's, it wasn't much different than this.
Kathy Newman - BBC
00:15:59 Jordan Peterson, you're saying, you've done your research and women are unhappy dominating men.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:16:03 I didn't say they were unhappy dominating men.
00:16:07 I'm just saying that's the way
00:16:08 it is. Well, it's I'm not saying
Kathy Newman - BBC
00:16:09 you're saying, basically, it doesn't matter if women aren't getting to the top. You're saying, well, that's just a fact going to get to the top.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:16:16 No, I'm not saying it doesn't matter either.
Kathy Newman - BBC
00:16:18 You're saying. You're saying, if it's the cost of men, that's a problem that is so
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:16:23 untrue that it's almost unbelievable to get where I've got that's fine. I think more power to you. As far as I'm concerned.
Kathy Newman - BBC
00:16:31 It took a while. Took a while. It did, yeah, took a while. You're saying it's because women are too You're saying that women aren't intelligent enough. I'm not saying that at all. You're saying that trans activists know could lead to the deaths of millions of people. You have a
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:16:44 mechanism in your brain. That's seriously wrong. The data on that's pretty clear.
Kathy Newman - BBC
00:16:49 Well, I've struggled with that. You're saying that we should organize our societies along the lines of the lobsters, the lobster. Millions of people die fighting the lobster. Tell us about the lobster.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:17:05 I don't know what you mean by the question.
Kathy Newman - BBC
00:17:07 You're saying the lobsters have to, sort of become men to succeed, but you're saying that makes them unhappy.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:17:15 That's silly. I think that's silly.
Kathy Newman - BBC
00:17:17 I really do. You're saying, like the lobsters, you buy a blue bicycle helmet, run along tram lines, and there's nothing we can do about it.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:17:25 That's patently absurd. I'm not interested in lobsters. Get your act together, develop yourself. But you're
Kathy Newman - BBC
00:17:32 saying, you're saying it's not because of gender, it's because women. You're saying women are just more sensitive on that because it's not a nice problem. You're saying it's not because
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:17:41 of gender. Many, many times this conversation, you do
Kathy Newman - BBC
00:17:44 it all the time. I want to ask you, do you agree that I'm not going to get the top job I want, of course. So of course, is it because the miserable that's
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:17:55 part of it? Definitely it's not the only reason. I mean, look, look at your situation. You're hardly smart, you're bitter and resentful and without purpose and hostile. You're simply not going to say, please take the position.
Kathy Newman - BBC
00:18:06 I might as well just go and play with my Cindy dolls. You can. I don't know what you mean by that. Mao, Mao, Mao, that's Mao and Mao, but it's happening now. I'm very, very, very uncomfortable now, oh, God.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:18:27 Now, 5000 times you've said that, what the hell's going on?
Rebecca Hargraves
00:18:35 That was indistinguishable from the actual
Devon Stack
00:18:38 seriously, it was that bad, and it was so bad. In fact, there were people that thought this had to be set up. It was so bad, like they had to, she had to have gone in there for the purpose of making him look like a genius, because she just looked so incomprehensibly out of touch with with this, with the interview. So it became a meme. Obviously, this video was cut back then and shared around back then. It went viral back then, and he became at that point, like I said, like, that was when I would say he was more of a household name because of the this. So you're saying, in fact, that became a meme. So you're saying so, you're saying so that led to a lot of opportunities for him to do public speaking events where
Rebecca Hargraves
00:19:27 he during this time, he got wildly rich,
Devon Stack
00:19:30 super rich, well, and he would sell out stadiums. Like people don't realize that he would sell out fucking stadiums. He was his book. Now the maps for meaning started to sell. He was making tons of money on his Patreon. Because, again, this was like, just like the right being excited by having a based black guy. They thought, this is our based liberal professor. We finally have a base liberal and so they were just throwing money at it and throwing money at. It. His YouTube channel went up to 1.8 million plus subscribers. He became part of the intellectual Dark Web
Rebecca Hargraves
00:20:09 so gay, which was like this, yes, super Weinstein Brothers and Ben Shapiro,
Devon Stack
00:20:15 right, right. So with Yeah, and Sam Harris and and they started selling merchandising. Started selling online, online courses, you know, self help books and shit. And so they were making all kinds of money. But the thing was, if you really listen to what he was actually saying, once he finally started to get an opportunity to speak beyond just this transgender issue. You started to realize that there was he did have an agenda. He actually any any look. He explicitly said it. Now he would, I would say, bookend it with all this red meat, all this easy to agree with stuff about common sense, transgender stuff, but here is a little montage of some of the things that gave people pause.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:21:13 I don't think that the Caucasians, let's say, should revert to being white. I think that's a bad idea. It's a dangerous idea. What the hell pride What's that? That's not the right response. I think I understand what's going on with the Keck boys and with Pepe a hell of a lot better than the people do who are casual observers of it, because I've actually studied it starting to produce an extraordinarily dangerous counter position. It's the ALT Left, alt right.
00:21:44 That's part of it. It's the kekistanis. It's this peppy thing. It's, I mean, when I first saw the frog, I mean, the peppy frog, I really recoiled from it. What? More recently, what has gone wrong with the right? Well, where it's threatening to go to foreign, identitarian Europe, that's for sure, with the people in your Europe who are turning to a regressive nationalism as an alternative to to the current state of chaos. Hey, many people write me from the right or from from No, from the fringes of the radical right say saying precisely that listening to my lectures stop them from going all the way.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:22:21 So it was always his intent Exactly.
Devon Stack
00:22:25 So he was basically saying that the big danger that he saw as a reaction to this stuff that he was speaking out against in the first place, and which is kind of gives you a understanding of why he started speaking out against it. Wasn't because necessarily he was morally opposed to it, but rather he saw it spinning out of control, and that the white people would start to have a racial consciousness, and that the white people would start to collectivize and have political power. And that was the that was the big danger that he was trying to avoid.
00:23:06 And look, he said, as much, you know, he said that that he wanted to stop white people from radicalizing, and that he preferred that, if they would be, you know, centrist, in fact, in this interview here he did with CBC Radio, he said, quote, I can tell you one thing that I'm very terrified of, and you can think about this, I think that the continual careless pushing of people by left wing radicals is dangerously waking up The right wing.
00:23:39 So you can consider this a prophecy from me, if you want, inside the collective is a beast, and the Beast uses its fists. If you wake up and the Beast, or wake up the beast, then violence, or wake up the beast, then violence emerges. I'm afraid that this continual pushing by radical left wingers is going to wake up the beast.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:24:03 Yeah, of course, he was right about this, because people revert to tribal identity when the left pushes too far. So you know his his diagnostic evaluation was correct. But the reason he was allowed to gain such wealth and popularity is that he was a Zionist. He's a Zionist, and that he was trying to neutralize the right from the beginning, right.
Devon Stack
00:24:28 And he was trying to prevent them from winning, just like in that Murdoch, Murdoch clip, he wanted to get them to, oh, focus on yourself. Focus on your individualism. Clean your room. Don't worry about what's happening outside your house, and definitely don't collectivize. Here he is on with Joe Rogan talking with Brett Weinstein, who is also very afraid of white identitarianism taking over.
00:24:54 Yeah, the Jewish Brett Weinstein, I wonder why he would worry about that. And they look they. Again, mentioned the exact same thing. It's they don't that. They literally say that if White people collectivize, they'll win, and so that's why they have to stop it.
Brett Weinstein
00:25:11 What's going on on the left is a bit of a new twist. What you have is a coalition
00:25:17 of different tribal identities that aren't large enough to marshal a force on their own, and so they're united, and together, they are a formidable force. But what's going to happen is that's that's an unstable entity. At the point that that force gains power, it's going to come apart as internal
00:25:34 dynamics rip it up. It's not capable of restraining the version that recurs on the right, the version that does manifest
00:25:43 as as white nationalism, that version is stable because it does represent an actual population that has an evolutionary basis for remaining cohesive.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:25:55 And your point, Brett, that the radical right actually is more powerful once they get organized, is a really good one, because there's no Fractionation. It's more stable, you bet. And they have all the guns. That's another thing to think about.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:26:07 Ah, yeah, tell us more. You subversive
Devon Stack
00:26:11 Jew, right? So that he's literally saying that if the right wing collectivizes, it'll actually win. It'll actually be successful. They have all the guns, they will actually be able to achieve their goals, whereas the left is a bunch of psychopaths that really can't. I mean, they have trouble just getting up in the morning. And so if they ever force the right into a position to where they become racially conscious and they they decide to, well, take care of the problem in the most efficient way possible they will be able to succeed.
00:26:42 And so he and Brett Weinstein are basically telling Joe, they're, they're they're here to stop that. They're here to stop the right wing from ever trying to accomplish that. That a goal. So he starts pushing the horseshoe theory thing, you know, saying that that left, this the extreme left is no different than the extreme right. You know, they're, they're both Marxist collectivists, you know, this kind of tired argument that Sargon used to use all the time. I don't know if he still does, because he blocked me nice, come around. Has he No, still, whatever. And so and so. In interviews, he would always talk about the danger, again, of the right wing winning.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:27:32 There is a danger on the right that the identity politics danger, because the right will play identity politics different than the left. The leftist theory is, well, we should all segregate ourselves into our identity groups, and then those who are the oppressor groups should repent and feel terrible for their oppressive acts and and step aside. And that's one way of playing identity politics.
00:27:58 But another way of playing identity politics is To hell with you. I will pick my identity group based on race or ethnicity, whatever it is that I feel most comfortable with, since that's the game, and then I'll play the win. And my sense is that there will be plenty of people attracted to the identity politics game that you win.
Devon Stack
00:28:21 See, you don't want, don't want the white people to win. I mean, he's just saying it. He's just saying he doesn't want white people to win.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:28:30 And that became so central to his philosophy that basically, at this point, everything he was doing was to try to stop whites from collectivizing in any meaningful way. This is really the pivotal time when he became dangerous, when he had all the institutional backing, when he was doing all the media circuits, and when he had all of the money he at this point in time, he was making $6 million a year that we know about well.
Devon Stack
00:28:54 And not only that, you also had all these people that were like his disciples, that had read his self help books, and they were starting to look at him like a spiritual leader, and so and a lot of those included young men, because as as you know, in the West, young men don't there's, there's a real leadership vacuum in the even today, and so they tend to gravitate towards these really loud personality types.
00:29:19 And so he they grab a lot of young men gravitated towards Jordan Peterson is like a guru of sorts. And so he was the perfect spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down and and to try to de radicalize these young men. So this went on for a while, and then the JQ started to become slightly and it's not like it is today, but it was, this was the beginnings of it. And people, especially young white men, were becoming aware of the JQ and wanted to have their guru address it. And so they kept pushing any and he avoided it, and he avoided it, and he avoided it. And then finally, I. Yeah, he wrote an article where he, in a sense, just says that, well, you know, Jews are extra super smart, and that's why, that's why they're in charge of everything. And this is what he did in a live stream. All right,
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:30:14 what the hell address the Jewish question. That's a hell of a thing to ask. So that's Jack lintern, you know? I mean, really, that's a hell of a thing to ask, but I will say something about it, you know. And I've thought about this a lot, so there is evidence that Ashkenazi Jews, so those are Jews of European heritage, have IQs that are about 15 points higher than the population average. So that's a lot, 15 points. It's about the average difference between the typical high school student.
Devon Stack
00:30:40 Yeah, it's it's false. And in addition to it being false, it doesn't account for the population difference in whites versus Jews. Leather Apron Club did a pretty good video on this, but the gist of it is, even if Jews had a much higher instance of geniuses, there's such a small percentage of the overall population, they still wouldn't be over represented, because there'd be so many more white geniuses, even if, you know, we didn't have as many geniuses per capita, where there's just so many more white people than Jews, that it would still be absurd to have this institutional capture that has gone on. And literally, you know, whether they're talking politics or media, basically any any institution of power,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:31:33 no matter, they don't have a higher IQ, they have a higher verbal IQ, which is through centuries of being sneaky bucks, and it's just self selection for being able to, you know, to try to get out of trouble in whatever country they're subverting their visual IQ is markedly lower than average. I mean, look at the the visual arts of Jewish. Look at Rothko. That's like the average visual representation, like the artistry of a Jew. So this is not even true. And I'm sure all those studies were by Jews, well.
Devon Stack
00:32:04 And even, the way, if you look at the average IQ of Israel, it's, it's not, I'd have to look at, well, let me do it. What is it? Well, five that's in China. Yeah, it's not remarkable. And so this idea now, Ashkenazi Jews obviously are not the only Jews that live in Israel, but, and that's specifically, maybe what he's talking about, 98.5 Yeah, it's so it's, you know, Jews as a whole. It's rather unremarkable. But anyway, so you had, that's the excuse that he gave that. Oh well, that's, you know, that's what's going on.
00:32:38 You heard the same excuse from, like a lot of people, and he started to rail against this idea that that Jews were up to something, but at the same time, signaling all the time, he seemed to have as much as he hated single you know, we didn't want white people to be prouder of themselves or think of themselves As a group, he seemed to, like always express this, this kind of kind of fondness for Jews.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:33:05 I met a couple of Orthodox Jews in New York, and they said to me on the street that they call me rabbi, which was, oh, he cries. I forgot the thing to hear,
Devon Stack
00:33:19 yeah, he's crying because the Jews called him Rabbi. What a bitch. Yeah, he's obviously mentally, mentally unstable. You can tell he cries often. We're gonna play a couple examples of this. But he, that was, the other thing too, is he was, he was always crying on stream, and crying when he would start talking about about Jews and and individualism. Bag It sounder. No, I don't have it. I don't think works on this.
00:33:49 Maybe about the I know it's too late now. We'll have to make one for the Outlaws. I've got a I got a couple different ones we could mix it up with. So we had instances like this, or obviously this is way more recent. But this was he went to Israel, spoke to an audience in Israel, and start crying about how they were basically a light unto the world.
TikToker
00:34:12 Yo. Dr Jordan Peterson, this guy loves Jerusalem. Just see the emotion that he has for it.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:34:18 Check this out. As Jews in Israel, are you telling the greatest story ever told? Well, you decide that by how you live, and that decision will affect the world. Because everyone looks here for one reason or another. It's not so easy to understand. Everyone looks here to see, well, how are you actually doing under this tremendous assault of adversarial criticism? And I think it is true in some real sense, that the fate of the world depends on the decisions of the people of Israel, just as the fate of the world depends on the decision of every individual. So you make yourself a shining light on the hill, right? You attract people here because of what you're capable of doing. You show the world what the Holy City.
Devon Stack
00:35:00 It, and he cries, could
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:35:04 look like because we need it. We need it, and it's up to you to do it.
Devon Stack
00:35:12 Standing ovation from the Jews. But while he's saying this to Jews, he's also posting, well, like this is before you said it to the Jews that basically it was a pathology to have racial pride, you know, he says now the right wing identitarians have their panties and a nod about what I've said about the pathology of racial pride, demonstrating as if it was necessary that the mirror reflection of malevolence is also malevolence. So yeah, again, horseshoe theory that we're, you know, like we're just being just as bad as the lefties. And then, of course, you had this famous clip a someone came up to him to give him a book by Sol Chen eatson, which Rebecca taught me how to say properly before the stream.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:36:04 Yeah, he has it spelled out phonetically, eats with a Z.
Devon Stack
00:36:12 And basically he this is an author that Jordan Peterson can't stop talking about because he writes about his experiences in the gulag, and so he uses this as like a frame of reference for being against collectivism. But one of the things he never mentions is one of the other books that that was written by Sol Chen Eaton, and that was 200
Rebecca Hargraves
00:36:39 years together together, yeah, which had he read that he would be wildly anti semitic, right?
Devon Stack
00:36:44 Well, I don't think he would, but yeah. I mean, had he let his audience read it? In fact, it's not even really available in English. A lot of people were taking it upon themselves to translate it into English because they didn't want to publish it, because it talks about the disproportionate Jewish roles and Bolshevism. Talks about how Jewish Jews want to segregate themselves. Talk about how they they they want to rule over economic aspects of the society. Go after positions of power. They they often enthusiastically embrace Universalist ideas like socialism. And they are the, they're the communists, basically. I mean, they're the they. That's where communism came from. And so a, I don't know if it, it was an attendee to one of his his events here, gave him a book, or gave him a copy of the book and asked him to comment on this. And this is, this is how that went down.
Jewish American Audience Member
00:38:02 It's 200 years together. Last year, a couple started translating it in English, and they put it online. They included all the chapters that they translated so far as a Jewish American, I think this book is very important for everyone to read in the book tolzhenitsyn documents the over over representation of Jewish individuals in the NKVD and in Bolshevik leadership. He claims that the ethnic hatred these individuals had for Christians played a role in the Hall of gomar Jewish individuals had faced persecution in Ukraine prior to Bolsheviks rise to power, these individuals exacted their revenge on the Christian Ukrainian population. The result was the death of 4 million Christians. The line of good and evil cuts through the heart of every human. One cannot simply say a human ethnic group is evil. Every individual must struggle with the good and the evil in their own heart. That being said, it is important to understand what motivates groups to metro cities against other groups, because the previous country has been filled with groups killing other groups. Like the Bolshevicks, Jewish individuals are over represented in the ownership and senior staff, and that's
Devon Stack
00:39:13 how the audience is getting mad at him. And this is a Jew, by the way, at least, at least according him he's talking about how I'm sure it's not. And so all the answers like, oh, I said, over represent. Over representation of Jews. That's bad.
Jewish American Audience Member
00:39:29 Jewish individuals are over represented in the ownership and senior staffing of the US news media. The news media also is inexplicably hostile towards Russia, if the current war mongering against Russian Christians, is in any way motivated by the same ethnic hatred that motivated the Hall of Omar, we must face that true responsibility. So here's my question, if Jewish individuals hated Christian Ukrainians enough, described millions of them to death, could the same thing happen today? Could Jewish individuals use a position of power to seek out revenge against places like Europe and Russia that have a history of expelling Jews? Thank you, James for your work.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:40:17 Heroic. That was what a great What a great question,
Jewish American Audience Member
00:40:23 remember roll nine? You know, it's like, maybe,
00:40:28 maybe there's something here that you don't know about, you know, and I am trying to just Speak the truth. And to
00:40:45 thank you for giving
Rebecca Hargraves
00:41:01 me every time I see that he just he realizes that he has no way to deal with this question without, you know, hoisting himself on his own petard,
Devon Stack
00:41:15 right, right, and so. And his whole thing, his whole persona is based on being intellectually honest, you know, like, don't, don't, don't tell lies. You know, the reason why I have to tell I have to call you a he instead of a she is I wouldn't be honest with myself if I called you a she. And so it like his whole empire he was building was based on this idea that he was super fucking honest. And so when very publicly, faced with a question he couldn't answer, he just bailed on it. And it's it's interesting, because again, here he is with Dennis Prager talking about how awesome Jews are, and he doesn't have a problem with that.
Dennis Prager
00:42:04 Everybody acknowledges that Jewish chosen. This is a reason for anti semitism. However, as I pointed out, Jews are two tenths of 1% of the world. Who gives a damn if two tenths of 1% of the world thinks they're chosen? The Chinese think they're the center of the world
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:42:18 chosen, chosen and successful
00:42:21 might be.
Dennis Prager
00:42:21 Thank you. That's correct. That's exactly right. So deep down, people don't laugh when Jews say they're chosen. They don't believe that Japan gets the sun before the rest of humanity, even though they are the Land of the Rising Sun and as the sun is on their flag. But nobody cares if the Japanese think they get the sun first, but they do care if the Jews think they're chosen. So there's been a tremendous amount of resentment of the fact that maybe they are. But of course, chosen never meant better, never.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:42:51 Yeah, right. How? I've never seen that clip before, by the way. Yeah. How is it possible that chosen does not mean better? You're literally that God shines his light on you. That's what Jews believe, chosen by God. That doesn't make me better. I know nobody cares. The Japanese have Japanese pride or think that they're better because they don't subvert every culture and economy that they embed themselves in. So no one gives a shit.
Devon Stack
00:43:19 Yeah, and it's weird because here he is tweeting out, I don't get it. How can you confuse someone thinking his son did something cute more than a decade ago with the horrors of racial or ethnic pride? The horrors of racial or ethnic pride, and that's him responding, I guess, to someone talking about, like his his son, or something like that. But anyway, the this, this, this is even further explained as he is called on it, specifically called on this idea.
00:43:56 Well, hold on a second. You keep talking, you know, like we can't have racial pride, that we need to focus on the individual all the time. But there's, there's a problem with that, and that is this, this whole notion of individualism, and this was, honestly, this is what stopped, prevented me from ever being a libertarian again. Yeah, I was libertarian because I am a white person.
00:44:22 And if you've ever looked at libertarians, they're almost all white, and it's because we tend to lean towards individualism in the micro, and we expect that to work in the macro, because we make, uh, well, Libertarians make these bad assumptions that other people think the same way that white people do, and if they did, libertarianism would would maybe work, but they don't for the same reason. Communism doesn't work because, you know, we're not just this monolith, right? And so this idea that individualism that Jordan Peterson so obviously reveres would be. Something that would survive the removal of white people is absurd.
00:45:04 And so that, if you really loved individualism so much, you would actually your top priority should be to preserve white people, because they're the only ones that give a fuck about individualism, exactly. And so he's called out on this in this interview here.
Interviewer
00:45:22 Another taboo is to celebrate European culture. Multiculturalists get pretty unhappy when Europeans start expressing pride in their culture or heritage. Many, especially on the left, do not draw much of a distinction, at least in practice, between European pride and white supremacy. You care about freedom of the individual, the individual's freedom to think, to speak, to associate, in short, to act as he sees fit, without external compulsion, as long as he doesn't infringe on the similar liberties of others.
00:45:58 Professor Ricardo Duchene, a historical sociologist and professor at the University of New Brunswick, argues that, quote, individualism is a unique attribute of European peoples. Quote, it has been exported to some degree, to other nations, but in my view, it is not something that comes to them naturally. So he continues, quote, you can't play the game of we're all individuals. We have to affirm and be proud of our ethnic identity and heritage to preserve the West's curious individualism, if Europeans become minorities in the West. He argues the founding idea of the West that no entity, not an individual, not a community, not the state, can justly deprive an individual of life, liberty or property by force, no matter what the individual's race, class or religion. I wouldn't be surprised if Duchenne, when he made this statement, had you in mind. Look
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:47:02 the medieval Europeans identified seven deadly sins for a reason, and one of them was pride. It's like, let's make the presumption. I do believe that for for reasons that aren't obvious, that the West has got some things right. We've got the sovereignty of the individual right. They're obvious. That's the most fundamental why we've got right. We've articulated that, I think, in a remarkable way, not only theologically, philosophically, in our body of laws, in our societies. And one of the consequences of that, as it's had its effect on the rest of the world is that everyone is getting richer quite fast, and that's a really good thing. Okay, having said that, it's like, Am I proud of that? It's like, I didn't do that. What the hell pride? What's that? That's not the right response. How about responsibility for that. How would that be?
Devon Stack
00:48:03 So you can't have pride, and here's what the other thing he misses is, if you're saying that that the correct response is responsibility, why would someone who's not doesn't have pride in something feel responsible for it? Of course, of course.
00:48:19 And by the way, that's also contributes to why non whites don't respect this because when they come to countries like America, for example, those aren't their founding fathers, those aren't their ancestors. So why would they feel any pride in the founding documents or the society or the culture or anything that's not theirs? And so they're not going to feel a responsibility for it. And so the idea that you can have responsibility, but not pride is fucking stupid and subversive and evil. You have to have pride in something. It's like when you see someone washing or in waxing their car, it's because they're proud of their fucking car.
00:48:58 They want to take care of their nice car. If you don't give a shit about your 87 honda accord that you're delivering pizzas in, you're not going to be spending $300 to get a detail that, or anything like that, because you don't have any pride in it. It's a piece of shit car. And that's, unfortunately, the way that the non whites treat our countries when they come here, is it's just some piece of shit car that it's there. It's a mechanism there to do something, to help them deliver pizzas. It's not there. It's nothing they have pride in,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:49:28 and it's totally inconsistent. Can you imagine living a life where you didn't take pride in anything that was unearned? I mean, women would not take any pride in their beauty. What about your intelligence and genetics is the same way. And he recognizes genetic components to disease, as we will discuss in future, and recognizes that there are genetic faults that travel through generations, and that there's an ancestry in terms of disease and genetics, but he doesn't recognize that, that you can have pride for the good things that your and. Sisters represent. It's totally inconsistent philosophically,
Devon Stack
00:50:03 yeah, or having pride in your children, right? Yeah, what about that? You can't be proud of your children. You didn't do that, you know? That's they're individuals, you know? And so again, he's always posting stuff like this, unearned identity with the glories of the past. And this is the thing he sounds indistinguishable at this point from the Marxist that he says that he opposes Exactly.
00:50:29 He's saying that like white he's basically talking about white privilege. He's essentially calling it white privilege that you didn't earn, that you didn't do anything to earn this, that you just you won some kind of genetic lottery. And so you owe it to all the people who didn't to share all the goodies, because you didn't earn any of that. And so this is, it's, it's so absurd and so obviously paradoxical. It's, you know, it's kind of funny that that more people weren't catching on to this. But here he is, yeah, look at this. But she's real proud of her genetics. It's because of this hyper focus on, on individualism. It's, it's, it's, that's the reason he had to do that, is to dismantle and disarm this white pride that was building up, and he knew what he was doing.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:51:22 My my angry young white men followers are a hell of a lot less angry and a hell of a lot less white than they would have been if they wouldn't have been following me.
00:51:32 Because one of the things, you know, I've had many, many letters from from young men who've also said that they had been attracted to the to the, you know, to the more dogmatic end of the of the right, more dogmatic right wing end of the political spectrum. And that listening to my videos has been exactly what's kept them more or less in the middle.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:51:55 So he's, he's saying that he is operating as a hostile agent to deter young white men from going the natural path, which is to the extreme right.
Devon Stack
00:52:07 Right, exactly. So, you know, you have this. You have all this this. You know, these admissions really over and over and over again. And some people are starting to catch on, but a lot of the people are caught up into the the aura, I guess, of Jordan Peterson. But if you noticed, he did use scare quotes when he was in the interview, when he talked about white, like, what is white? And he does the same thing with with when he's taught, and then you'll see a lot of people do this, where he says, you know, how do you define white? What does white even mean? If you're 1/64 Cherokee, are you white? You know, what is white? Are Italians white? Answers, no, by the way,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:52:55 who's white? And so people ask this question. I always think about what you said to Nick Fuentes. Like, for all intents and purposes. You're
Devon Stack
00:53:06 well, now that I have more information, he's no longer white enough for me. You know thing about him, by the way, people that say, Oh, he's white enough. Well, no, he's white, just like Jews are white. Because Jews are white until it's inconvenient, then all of a sudden, they're Jewish. Look at the many videos of Nick doing the exact playing the exact same game. Oh, I'm not white. I'm Mexican.
00:53:26 He literally plays the exact same fucking game, which is why you can never trust him. Well, that means homosexual. So you've got this, this, you know, watering down of What does white even mean? Look, other people have done the same thing. Nick Fuentes himself has done the same sort of thing. E Michael Jones, of course, doing the same sort of thing. And they all do it whenever they're trying to push some other agenda that having a, you know, a solid, any kind of white solidarity would get in the way of right?
00:53:57 And in the case of E, Michael Jones, obviously it's Catholicism. You can't have white identity, identity and Catholicism simultaneously, because Catholicism is a Universalist religion. The majority of Catholics aren't white. And I would say to some extent, that that applies to, you know, the way you know Nick's worldview too. I mean, do you disagree? I mean, that's no.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:54:19 I'm in a battle with my with my faith, because, on the one hand, you know I, I am a believer, but it is irrefutable that the Catholic Church has been infiltrated, not only with non whites, but also with the cause of bringing non whites to white countries and preserving white identity is my number one thing. It's just my number one thing. So I still go to church, you know, I'm Catholic, but this is a I'm in a struggle. I'm in a real struggle session on this one still,
Devon Stack
00:54:50 well, yeah, well, we don't need to get into that. But I would just say, look, bottom line is, there are a lot of people who have objectives that white identity. It conflicts with and so they have to make it sound as if white identity is not even possible, because you can't even define it. So he was, he was obviously trying to play that game. And then in response to Kevin McDonald, Kevin McDonald, who, of course,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:55:20 you know, you know author of culture of critique. You know he, Kevin McDonald, is a mild mannered old man, and he was summarily ousted from his position in Southern California. I might be right about that, somewhere in California, for writing the culture of critique and talking about Jewish psychology. And he's, he's not an extreme man, you know, he's not. He's been made out to be, but he's really not, no
Devon Stack
00:55:47 and he talks about things in terms of biology, much in the same way that I do, where he talks about a, you know, having racial preferences as a function of of your genetic survival and so and by the way, he also applies that same logic to Jews. That's why they do what they do, is it's out of preservation, self preservation. And so here is a a reply where Kevin McDonald says it's not about pride in one's race.
00:56:21 It's about understanding that all people have a powerful genetic interest in their race, and understanding what the demographic trends in all Western countries portend if whites don't begin to act to secure a territory. And Jordan Peterson, in response, said there are so many errors in this reply that it's difficult to know where to begin. First, no one has a genetic interest in their race. That is preposterous. And by the way, he doesn't have that opinion when it comes to Jews, isn't that convenient? And so this is, this is. And then again, he starts to try to deconstruct what white even means. Oh, are the Iraqis white? The Iranians white because they're Aryan. You know, this kind of nonsense that goes on
Rebecca Hargraves
00:57:09 and, oh, sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead. Kevin McDonald, he aired in this initial tweet, because it is for white people. It is about pride in one's race, we are superior in many ways. We have a sense of individuality and morality that is not conferred to other races that come to our countries. We also have, although we've engaged in, you know, some bad geopolitical strategies. We also ended slavery across the world. We tried to educate people that have low IQs. We've tried to improve the world. It is about, it is about pride for Aryan people.
Devon Stack
00:57:48 Yeah, I think he would agree with that. I think that he was more specifically responding to Jordan Peterson making these, like, platitudes about pride, you know, like, Oh, it's just like, this nebulous, you know, like, brainless white pride, like, because my life sucks, but I can, I can claim credit for everything my race did. Like, you know, that kind of character kind
Rebecca Hargraves
00:58:11 of gave that inch, you know, right,
Devon Stack
00:58:13 which, yeah, you should never do. You should. You should definitely double down, yeah. And so he has this, this hyper focus on individualism, and to the degree where he even starts crying about it on stream. I mean, this, this is a disturbed man, terrible.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:58:29 I thought he was gonna die after I saw this clip. What year was this? Was it like 2020
Devon Stack
00:58:33 I think it's 2017 actually, maybe 2018 I don't know, 100% I didn't write it down. I didn't write it down. I should have written it down, but this is him talking about individualism, and he's just not a healthy, mentally healthy person. You can just tell
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:58:52 a close reading of 20th century history indicates, as nothing else can the horrors that accompany loss of faith in the idea of the individual. It is only the individual, after all, who suffers. The group does not suffer.
Devon Stack
00:59:29 Dude, get yourself together only
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
00:59:30 those who compose it. Thus. The reality of the individual must be regarded as primary If suffering is to be regarded seriously. Without such regard, there can be no motivation to reduce suffering, and therefore no respite. Instead, the production of individuals. Suffering can and has and will be again, rationalized and justified for its supposed benefits
01:00:13 for the future
01:00:15 and the group. Ah,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:00:21 yes, the group about watching a man cry. It's just, so I've been with my husband for 10 years. I've seen him cry one time, and it was about his dad dying. That's the appropriate number of times to see your husband cry, over a decade.
Devon Stack
01:00:35 Yeah, it's, it's, it's mind blowing that. Yeah, this is, this is how unwell he is. I mean, he talks about pathology, pathologizing racial pride. This guy pathologizes individualism to a degree that I don't think anyone ever has before. I mean, it's, it's insane this fucking guy.
01:00:57 And as far as it being, being genocidal, you know, because that's what, that's what he's basically saying, is that if whites start to collectivize, the end result will be this inevitable genocide. I mean, that's, that's basically what he's been saying over and over and over again and and to the extent that it would be genocidal, is it would be genocidal for the people who refuse to leave our countries, because at that point we're at war, right? If White people decided we're going to kick out all the non whites, we wouldn't just start murdering everybody indiscriminately.
01:01:29 That wasn't white. That's not what would happen at all. I mean, if this fantasy world were to ever manifest, you would have a voluntary exit of all the non whites, and then if people refuse to leave, then there might be violence, just like anything else you know. And in fact, the real violence is the genocide that's currently happening, not in a fantasy world, against white people right now. That's the fucking violence that's happening as a result of your fucking gay ass individualism, that is the shit that's happening right now, right?
01:02:07 So the fact that he's just completely, I sometimes find it hard to believe that he's just crazy and unaware of this. It's just, it's, it's so obvious the all the holes in his logic. And what's even makes it even more obvious is here's a clip of an interview with Miles Wolpin, who is talking about one of the tactics used by the Frankfurt School, which is the Jews that fled Hitler and came into the West and immediately started to deconstruct Western society as a thank you, I guess, for taking them in and try to eliminate white solidarity and white power in all white countries, and then immediately open the door to the Third World, I guess, as some kind of, as Kevin McDonald would say, some kind of racial survival instinct because of a fear of white people being a danger to them. So here he is talking about what you know, Jordan Peterson's big, big what's he's obsessed with, individualism. Well, let's take a look.
Interviewer
01:03:25 Dr Walker, what was the adverse effect of the Frankfurt School on the world?
Dr. Miles Wolpin
01:03:34 Well, I would say, if we looked at our own country and to a lesser degree, perhaps Western Europe. We live in an era today when patriotism, defense of our own, nationality, independence, sovereignty, are all under attack to paint middle class morality as repressive, to paint authority within the family outside the family as repressive, to promote personal liberation, or what we might call radical individualism,
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:04:17 I don't see any alternative than the than the radical individualism that's predicated on these deep stories that characterizes the West.
Devon Stack
01:04:27 So he's literally straight out of the cultural Marxist that he claims to be at war with, literally reading directly out of their playbook as a way of dismantling white, white countries. So he's clearly, clearly subversive. And then, of course, once he gained some kind of, I guess, gravitas and some authority, some dick swinging, and he was the. You know, the headline speaker at a lot of these right wing events. One of the first things he did is he started to exclude anyone who would have any kind of racial tendencies, any kind of collectivist, as he would put it, tendencies. You know, from the conversation, he would again do exactly what he was always talking about, the Marxist trying to they're trying to censor us. And what does he do? He goes straight to
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:05:30 doing exactly that we know how to put a box around the extremists on the right. Basically we say, Oh, you're making claims of ethnic or racial superiority. You're not part of the conversation anymore.
Devon Stack
01:05:42 And he did this when he disinvited Faith Goldy, that's
Rebecca Hargraves
01:05:46 right, yes.
Devon Stack
01:05:48 And Faith Goldy, her big sin was she just, I think, didn't she just interview someone from the
Rebecca Hargraves
01:05:54 daily store went on, yeah, she went on the Stormer, Stormer podcast, something like that, yeah, yeah.
Devon Stack
01:06:00 So it wasn't even like she was going around saying Heil Hitler or anything like that, but he made sure that she couldn't have a seat at the table because he was now the czar of information. What was acceptable in the right wing, and of course, it's it was always it was still okay for Jews, here he is again talking about how they have to be excluded and shut down, because, again, if White people start to collectivize, they'll win.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:06:31 The alt right types are also identity politics players, so they adopt the collectivist viewpoint, which is that the best way of defining people is by their group identity. The left narrative is, well, there's a there's a dominant group, and that would be like white males fundamentally, and they should give up power, because they'd be oppressive and and it would only be fair if, if resources were distributed more equitably. A
01:06:55 nd the right wingers say, yeah, yeah, I get the collectivist thing. We should identify with our groups, I'm going to identify with my groups. And so let's assume these are what Right, right wing white supremacist types. They think, fine, I'll identify with my damn group, but I'm not giving up any power. And my sense of playing identity politics is my goddamn group is going to win and yours is going to lose. It's not about
Coach Peterson
01:07:17 scoring points, but rather going home and individually washing your penis,
Dr. Murdoch
01:07:23 sure, but isn't the point of the game to win? What's the point of playing if we just lose all the time?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:07:31 Exactly. You know, Mikhaila said similar stuff on Twitter. Do you remember that censorship tweet from a few years ago? What she said? She said, unfortunately, the direct society are going to take over this platform because they have nothing better to do. Maybe there does need to be some sort of content moderation at Elon Musk, she also says anti semitism isn't occurring. We're just asking questions from pathological morons on the internet. And then she said, Does anyone know the name of the actual alt right that's popping up blaming everything wrong in their sorry lives on Jews and women. They're grosser than woke men. It's moronic. She's over the woke right thing. And then the next week, she praised Israeli precision strikes for avoiding civilians and blamed Hamas for using human shields to fuel anti semitism. And her entire shtick, you know, has just been mirroring Jordan Peterson's pro free speech. Pro free speech when it comes to anti semitism, it's, it's censorship, of course,
Devon Stack
01:08:25 right right now, and so the end of the day, Jordan Peterson's and and his daughter's message are, is, don't, do not collectivize white people. Collectivizing means they'll win, which means they that means they want us to lose.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:08:44 I don't think that the Caucasians, let's say, should revert to being white. I think that's a bad idea. It's a dangerous idea, and it's coming fast, and I don't like to see that. I think the whole group identity thing is seriously pathological. I think we've made big mistakes in Canada. I understand why, at least to some degree, in that respect, and that large mistakes are being made all over the western world, where we're making your group identity the most important thing about you. I think that's reprehensible. I think it's devastating. I think it's genocidal in its ultimate expression. I think it will bring down our civilization if we pursue it. We shouldn't be playing that game. And your point, Brett, that the radical right actually is more powerful once they get organized, is a really good one, because there's no Fractionation.
Brett Weinstein
01:09:41 It's more stable,
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:09:42 you bet, and they have all the guns. That's another thing to think about.
Devon Stack
01:09:48 So that's, that's basically Jordan Peterson's entire purpose. And I, you know, when I see these people that even today, or I guess it was yesterday, people. Freaking out on me on Twitter because I make fun of his, the fact that he's become like a complete benzo drug addict, you know, piece of shit. It's like he's trying to kill white people. Yeah, he's trying to genocide white people. And look, even if it's out of some kind of, like psychotic, you know, misplaced empathy, or whatever it is, some kind of pathologies. He would say, who doesn't matter? Yeah, the why doesn't matter. He should, he should be institutionalized.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:10:31 And it is, it is pathological. I think that, well, I think that one of the reasons Mikhaila Peterson said something interesting, that this is a spiritual attack, and a lot of people are attacked her for that. But I think that there is an element of that, because I think fundamentally Jordan Peterson might have a moral core, and he recognizes that what he's doing is profoundly evil, and it's manifesting in all of these problems like drug addiction. I saw him in a video once say, to combat addiction, and this was before the benzo thing. It was from one of his early lecture series. So series. To combat addiction, you have to have a higher moral power that is larger than the than the effort that it takes to contribute to your addiction. And when he really went off the rails here, that's when he developed a benzo addiction. And I think that he, like, looked at his daughter, and he's like, Well, I failed because I have this single mom whore psychopathic daughter, and I've compromised entirely on my ethics, my sense of principle. And he's like, fuck it. I'm just gonna get really addicted to benzodiazepine well. And he's
Devon Stack
01:11:35 look ever since. And I don't know if this was something that happened or was manifest before this, but even in the early days, he was talking about just psycho shit, like describing, quite frankly, he was lying impossible symptoms to stupid shit, like, like he was in this interview, he's talking to Joe Rogan saying that because he drank apple cider, he had a overwhelming sense of dread and couldn't sleep for 25 days now. Just so you guys know, the world record is 11 days.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:12:11 This guy was fucked up. Yes, from the 11 days,
Devon Stack
01:12:14 yeah, there's no way you can go 25 days, you would be fucking dead, and you you wouldn't, it wouldn't happen because of fucking Apple drinking apple cider. It maybe it's because, you know, on some
Rebecca Hargraves
01:12:26 level, it was apple cider vinegar.
Devon Stack
01:12:28 Okay, oh, well. It's just that you gotta realize that, like, on some level, he is, he's not a stupid person. So on some level, maybe, as you said, he is a midwit. But maybe on some level, he has to know that what he's doing is evil, but he's making so much goddamn money that he has to let it. He has to keep going with it, because what he's describing here, I think it's something that occurred after his his catapult into fame.
Joe Rogan
01:12:57 Do it apple cider? Like? What was it? All fights in it.
Joe Ro
01:13:00 What was it doing to you?
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:13:02 Oh, it produced an overwhelming sense of impending doom, and I seriously been overwhelming, like, there's no way I could have lived like that if that would have lasted for see Mikhaila knew by that point that it would probably only last a month, and I was like, a
Joe Rogan
01:13:16 month, a month, fucking cider.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:13:19 Oh, yeah, I didn't sleep that that month, I didn't sleep for 25 days. I didn't sleep at all. I didn't sleep at all for 25 days. How is that possible that? I'll tell you how it's possible. You lay in bed, frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours, and then you get up,
Devon Stack
01:13:37 totally sane, by the way, totally In fact, his job is treating crazy people. Isn't that but yeah, their whole family has a history of these weird ailments, talking about how they have all kinds of disorders, or these very rare diseases that are only cured with these really unusual treatments that that aren't medically sound or backed up by the science at all.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:14:07 Yeah. So his daughter, I wanted to play this clip just so everybody can see what she used to look like. But for some reason, he started bringing Mikhaila Peterson on the scene in 2012 she was 19 or 20 here, and this was a discussion on some Canadian broadcast, whatever, about their familial and genetic depression. Now play this clip, and then I'll explain it.
Mikhaila Peterson
01:14:31 There were times at night when I was scared. I was always worried someone was going to come into my house, kill everyone in my family and just leave me by myself.
Devon Stack
01:14:41 That's normal.
Mikhaila Peterson
01:14:42 I wasn't worried about anyone hurting me. It was mostly me being left alone. But I didn't think that was weird. That was just how it was.
Interviewer
01:14:51 How old were you when you were feeling that way?
Mikhaila Peterson
01:14:54 Grade Two to grade six? So. 6789, years old, something like that. Yeah, did you watch a lot of horror movies as a kid? Okay, so
Rebecca Hargraves
01:15:07 that doesn't seem that crazy, because, you know, a lot of kids have, oh, that's pretty crazy. If someone, you know, it's someone
Devon Stack
01:15:14 said, like for for four years of my life, I thought every night someone was gonna break into my house and kill my family. Oh, by the way, the biggest fear about that was that I'd be left alone, not the fact that, like, someone came in and killed my family. I'd be like, Okay, you're a weirdo. You're a fucking
Rebecca Hargraves
01:15:31 that is the key to all this. And because psychology is a soft science, and it's basically made up and Jordan Peterson is a fake doctor that I'm gonna go ahead and play play armchair psychologist right here. So what she's talking about is a deep fear of abandonment. And a deep fear of abandonment is the central theme to all Cluster B personality disorders. And I'm 99% sure that she has borderline personality disorder. She's hyper sexual, the weird plastic surgery. So after this happened when she was a child, they put her on high level, high level Prozac when she was nine years old. So she was on she talks about the dangers of SSRI. Like most people that take SSRIs, take them for they're over prescribed, but, but they take them as adults, you know, like the high level Prozac as a nine year old in the fifth grade. And after this, after this, 2012 she just increasingly started doing the media rounds. And so she did this Joe Rogan interview about how she cured all of her autoimmune disease, which we'll talk about in a second with diet. So we have this little clip of her on Joe Rogan talking a little bit about her rheumatoid arthritis she was diagnosed with as a child, yes.
Devon Stack
01:16:47 So she's got arthritis as a kid, and she's thinks that someone's gonna break into her house and kill her whole family. This is not a totally normal kid.
Joe Rogan
01:16:55 So your whole life, you've had arthritis issues or Yeah.
Mikhaila Peterson
01:16:58 So I started walking kind of funny when I was two, according to my mom, and she brought me to the doctor, and they said just having growing pains or something. When I was seven, I was diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, and I had like 37 joints affected. And then I was put on immune suppressants in grade four. So I was actually the first kid in Canada to be put on this biologic called Enbrel. So I was on end role and methotrexate for ever, like leading up to the hip and ankle replacement, and they did help reduce some of the pain, but I still ended up with no cartilage in my joint and hip, my hip and ankle when I was 17,
Joe Rogan
01:17:35 and this is just from the effects of arthritis and the inflammation and swelling, and just chewed the cartilage up.
Mikhaila Peterson
01:17:43 So I wasn't even particularly swollen. I didn't have a very like inflammatory, visually inflammatory arthritis. So my rheumatologist, who'd been at Sick Kids for 20 years, said that I had the worst arthritis she'd ever seen. So it was very severe. It wasn't particularly like swollen. My joints just disintegrated.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:18:06 Okay, so I think that a lot of hypochondriasis and some of the munchausens by proxy originates from a real ailment. Like, I talked to a doctor about this, and he's like, Well, I doubt that they would have done an unnecessary hip and ankle surgery. However, later, they did change her prognosis to idiopathic arthritis after her joint because she didn't have rheumatoid factor. So, like there are some suspicious things around this, but, but I don't know.
01:18:36 Did my YouTube get taken down? No, is it down? Oh, no, we're okay. We're back up. Sorry, guys, the live chat got disrupted. Um, so there's some some, you know, I'm skeptical that this was as severe as she's saying, but if she did have diagnosable rheumatoid arthritis as a child, that's very serious.
01:18:56 Now, she goes on to claim in this very long interview where she has a flat affect. I thought that, like she couldn't move her face because of plastic surgery, but she's always kind of been like this, like she's got real psychopathic energy she always has. So she claims that on this elimination diet that she put her depression and her arthritis into remission. She said she got to a normal place by just eating meat. So then one time she tried to reintroduce soy, she had some edamame beans and some miso soup or whatever, and she claims that that caused hallucinations for weeks. Just the introduction of of soy cause hallucinations.
01:19:35 She later says that she tried to reintroduce apples and that that was causing depression and low back pain. So this is kind of where, but this is all bullshit, because rheumatoid arthritis, even if she had childhood rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile arthritis, the remission rates are are pretty good. It's like 50% over 10 years go into remission with methotrexate and the other series of drugs that she. Was taking. So, like, it's feasible to think that she just went into remission and that it was unrelated to her diet. I think that they're very susceptible to the placebo effect. But this is when you think, yeah, it's like, I
Devon Stack
01:20:15 had apple cider and I couldn't sleep for 25 days, right?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:20:19 And so this is when the grift really began. So she started this blog, I think it was called Eat this, not that. And then she starts the lion diet coaching, and it's still up and running. She offers one on one professional coaching for $500 a month. I think you get one coaching session. And then in 2024 one of the reasons that she her net worth is $5 million Did you know that?
01:20:41 And she makes $625,000 a year from all sources. Something else that she did with her new husband, her faggot husband, is they started the Peterson Academy, like under Jordan Peterson's name as an alternative to college. It's, you know, fairly reasonable. I think it's $500 a year. But she's the CEO, and her husband is a COO and they got really, really rich off of this. But, you know, we'll talk about this in a little bit, but the real money started flowing when she started capitalizing on Jordan Peterson's health issues, and she started claiming that she was curing all of these diseases and all these issues that he had with the carnivore diet.
01:21:18 So she has this, this grift going, and she has the ability to, like, present this case study with this beloved man, and act like, like the Savior, like she's cured him with this diet that she's done all of this research into, and she saved her dad. She's highly narcissistic. Everybody knows this her personal life disaster. Do you have this picture of her? I'm sure a lot of people have seen this, but this picture of her, okay, so this is from 2016 2017 she's she's showing off her body, and she's got a great body, I think, when she started the carnivore diet, and you can see her kid just like, left alone, like her one and a half year old kid bed. I saw this, and I was like, it blows my mind that somebody would post this online, like I couldn't
Devon Stack
01:22:07 was she married at this point? Wasn't she married at
Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:10 this she was married to Andre korokov. And if you've seen his interviews online, he seems like a stable, well mannered young man. He seems like a nice, normal guy by all accounts. He's a great father. He was taking care of Jordan Peterson in Russia when they were trying to patch up their relationship.
01:22:27 And that supposedly, when she went to Romania to bang Andrew Tate, unverified. It's unverified, but there was a stream that he did while she was there, and she just, like, walks through the background. It's like, what are you doing at this guy's actually we, I went over there to talk business. I'm like, Andrew Tate flew you out to hang out at his house in Romania while your husband that you're having major problems with is taking care of your father. He's like, I just wanted to talk business. Like, you don't just talk business with Andrew Tate. Okay. Like, no, I guess he wasn't that famous back then, but like, one quick Google search would really, would really, uh,
Devon Stack
01:23:06 why can't you talk business over the phone?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:23:08 Talk business over the phone. She's like, he just wanted to tell me about how to put things behind a paywall. I'm like, Google it. You whore Good lord. Anyway, so she divorces this guy. They have this child together, and she remarries Jordan Fuller, who is clearly a homosexual, and he's five years her junior. So in your 20s and 30s like that, is a giant age gap, like not for the man to be older, but for the woman to be five years older than the man, they have a lavish, multi million dollar wedding at the San Francisco Ritz Carlton.
01:23:47 I made you, I made you put this video. I'm like, no one's gonna care about this. We're watching it anyway. We have a little wedding video that we can play. But it was just like, just an incredible display of wealth, and it was gaudy and everything like that. If you can play that really quick, and then I'll get into the next thing, her dress, whorish. Her husband, gay. He looks gay. Yeah, look at this.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:24:12 I Jordan. This is awkward.
Devon Stack
01:24:15 Wait, and his name's Jordan, and his name is Jordan, ooh. That is kind of weird. That's, that's a little weird, yep, not, not exactly a common name, so, all right, that's
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:24:32 I Jordan. Take you Mikhaila,
Jordan Fuller
01:24:34 hi, Jordan. Take you Mikhaila, for
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:24:37 my lawful wife.
Jordan Fuller
01:24:38 For my lawful wife.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:24:41 Look at a place. Look at that place. Look at that.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:24:46 I've watched you two. You know, quite a bit. We have no good fortune.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:24:50 How much does that cost? The floral arrangements would probably cost $100,000
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:24:54 you've got supportive family on both sides. That's a big deal, and you're good with each other, you know, you. Walk and you like each other, and so that's good, yeah? Well, it's one thing to be in love, you know? That's another thing to be attracted to each other, but to like each other. That's even better, if you
01:25:11 can have all three. Hey, that's a bonus.
Devon Stack
01:25:15 Did her dad marry them? Or was he just doing a speech?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:25:19 She was just doing a speech. Yep, just, it's just so lavish and ridiculous. So okay, let's talk about the mom before we get into the the health issues. So her mother, this was seven years ago, gets a rare kind of kidney cancer. And let's actually play four and then, and then we can, we can talk about this.
Catholic Women
01:25:48 Well, this is a rosary, and I was surprised, and I said, You know what it is? And she said, Yes, but I don't know how to use it. And this was the fifth day of praying the novena. I said, you know, I'll be better on our anniversary. And that day was August, 19. It was our anniversary.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:26:06 We had
01:26:07 excellent surgeons. The intervention of the radiologist could well have irritated the tissue that was damaged enough to facilitate healing, and that's the simplest explanation, but the fact that it did occur on our 30th wedding anniversary, and that is what Tammy had said would happen months before, when she had no way of knowing that or have any reason to assume it. Well, you know, I don't know what to make of that.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:26:39 I think he goes on to say that she was the only person.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:26:45 She's also, as far as we know, the only person who ever survived this cancer.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:26:50 Okay, that's that's definitely not true. So they did tell her that she had 10 months to live, and said there's no effective treatment, and it pretty much kills everyone. They told her she's a 0% survival rate in known cases. At the time, she had a surgery to remove part of the kidney, and then she had another resection where they removed some of the surrounding tissue. Now, I got into some case studies because I'm spurgey like this, the actual chance of surviving five years with this kind of cancer is 20 to 30% like it's it's not good.
01:27:19 But she's not the only person to have ever survived, and there's not a lot of case studies, because it's a very rare kind of cancer. But in this case study of 7410 people survived five years or longer. So like, I'm Catholic, so I want to be like, Oh, the rosary. But you know, these people have a tendency towards magical thinking and believing that they get cured through through basically magic. And I think that she just had a really, really good surgeon that did an excellent resection and and that's what happened here.
01:27:48 And then she's talked a lot about how carnivore has bolstered her ability to not go into to not get the cancer back a relapse. That's what I was, that's where I was trying to look for. So I know they're using all of their health issues to try to bolster the carnivore diet. And I don't want to say that there's no benefits to the carnivore diet, but it is a fad diet, and we have evolved to eat vegetables. I know Come at me. Oxalate grows. But you know, the
Devon Stack
01:28:18 other thing too is you can't ignore the fact that he panders to a Christian audience, a largely Christian audience, which is kind of ridiculous given the fact of what what he has said in the past about his own faith. Like, it seems like if the rosary was measured by healing, people wouldn't be people like this.
Interviewer
01:28:35 Like, yeah, don't believe. Do you believe that Jesus rose again from the dead?
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:28:42 It nature, I find it I cannot answer that question. And the reason is because, okay, let me think about it for a minute, see if I can
Devon Stack
01:28:58 pretty easy question, if you're a Christian,
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:29:02 I Well, the first answer would be, it depends on what you mean by Jesus.
Devon Stack
01:29:13 Depends on what you admit what you mean by Jesus and like. That's not the first time he's played this trick.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:29:18 Well, the question, did that happen? Begs the question, What do you mean by happen? Because when you are dealing with fundamental realities and you pose a question, you have to understand that the reality of the concepts of your question when you're digging that deep are just as questionable about as what you're questioning. You know, some people say to me, what do you do? You believe in God? And I think, okay, there's a couple of mysteries in that question. Not really. You mean do. What do you mean? You What do you mean believe, and what do you mean God? And you say, as the questioner, what. Well, we already know what all those things mean, except belief in God, and I think no, if we're going to get down to the fundamental brass tax, we don't really know what any of those things mean.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:14 This tendency to just to just dissect every word deconstruct. It's very Jewish. It's, yes, it's deconstructionism. That's exactly what it is. So did you have more on that clip?
Devon Stack
01:30:27 Sorry, no, just, I just wanted to show that like it's obviously, if he's trying to say he's pandering to I would assume that a lot of his audience is Christian, and he's very loathe to, although you can obviously tell he's an atheist, he beats around the bush like to like a cringy level I've never even seen before, to avoid just saying I don't
Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:50 believe it. Yeah, just say you don't believe it. If you don't
Devon Stack
01:30:54 believe see, by the way, Christians, they get mad at me. Aren't you happy? I don't just do that. I could just do that and but there's people that do that, just not as obviously, I know I just tell you I don't really believe it there. See, isn't that nice? Isn't that nicer? Isn't isn't that better?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:31:10 Absolutely. So she continues to build this media empire with her gay husband based on the carnivore diet, using all of her family's health problems, her own health problems. Let's go through Jordan Peterson's health issues. Just a little bit, not a little bit. I have a lot to say about this. Sorry, guys. So in 2016 he says that he has suffered a violent allergic autoimmune reaction to something consumed over Christmas, and that he has acute and continual anxiety.
01:31:44 He's freezing cold, he has insomnia, and he's diagnosed clonazepam at a very low dose, point five milligrams for anxiety. So Mikhaila later said that this ties to broader autoimmune issues, and then in 2018 or 2019 they massively increase the dose. They increase it to four milligrams a day, which is it's like a horse's dose of benzos. And this is when they're introducing some of these diet change. They're stopping vegetables entirely for strict carnivore. And he says that he has anxiety spikes. And then this is when the wife is diagnosed with terminal kidney cancer. So this is the first, this is 2020, when she was coming out with these health updates.
01:32:31 And we did see him after this. So after eight months of unbearable discomfort, Jordan is rapidly tapering off of Clonazepam, and he develops what they what they call and I think this might be bullshit, a paradoxical reaction and severe akathisia, which is incredible restlessness and panic and you can't sit still. And he said it was making him suicidal, that he couldn't sleep, and it was torturous. He's pacing suicidal ideation. And this is all. I think this is all pretty standard for withdrawing from a massive amount of benzos, especially quick
01:33:05 self help guru, by the way, self help Exactly.
01:33:08 And you know what? What I heard him say around this time is, like, I was, I was prescribed this from psychiatrists, and I had no knowledge that benzodiazepine were so addictive, it's like, bro, everybody knows that Xanax is addictive, and that's that's his profession, and it's your profession. So instead of being like, I couldn't deal with my wife's terminal cancer, I couldn't deal with having a whore psychopath daughter, and so I got addicted to benzos. If he had done that, I'd be like, All right, man, we're on to something.
01:33:37 Let's keep going down this road. You could talk about the juice, and I'll forgive you. I'll forgive you. But no, that's not what he does. So what Mikhaila decides to do with her ex husband is to take him to Russia, which is the only people that will do this, and they put him in a nine day comatose state using propofol. I don't know if any of you have ever had a colonoscopy, but propofol is no fucking joke. Like, if you get it for for general anesthesia, they'll tell you to count from 10. There'll be like 10 nine, and then the last thing you remember is saying eight. And then you wake up post surgery. So he's under this crazy anesthetic for nine days while they cold turkey detox him from wouldn't
Devon Stack
01:34:25 a machine even be breathing for him during this period?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:34:28 Yeah, he would have to be on a respirator, right? So, like
Devon Stack
01:34:30 he's that's how knocked out you are. You're basically dead, yeah?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:34:34 And so he after this, he wakes up disoriented. He's having hallucinations. He has motor skill loss, and he's asking questions repeatedly, and he is is just having, like, major neurological problems, which I think, I mean, I'm not a doctor, not that that really means anything anymore. I.
01:35:00 Um, but I think that a nine day course of extreme anesthetic and cold turkey quitting a high dose of benzos, which nobody would recommend, every every doctor would recommend that you taper. And that's what his doctors in Canada were saying, like, you need to taper. I think that that probably caused some neurological damage. But when he came back to the public eye after that, he seemed pretty normal. I saw some interviews with him, and I was like, he doesn't seem like he has brain damage at all. Did you watch any of those interviews that he did after after he came back from this?
Devon Stack
01:35:31 Yeah. I mean, he seemed the same, you know, he
01:35:34 seemed the same, yeah, maybe a
01:35:36 little more subdued,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:35:39 yeah, I guess so. But it's not like he was, like, you know, it was,
Devon Stack
01:35:43 it was never energetic in the first place, either. So, yeah,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:35:47 yeah, absolutely. Um, so then Jordan and Mikhaila, they're working on all sorts of stuff and and they're, they're putting him into the public eye, probably more than he's ready for. He's resuming on books and tours podcasting, and he's saying that he has, like, some neuralgia, pain and things like that. But it's nothing crazy. And all this time, Mikhaila's like, carnivore diet, carnivore diet. Carnivore diets. Helping dad. Isn't that weird? How she says that? She doesn't say, my dad. She says, Dad, yeah, it is a little weird. It's just like, it's weird and psychopathic. Well, it's, it's kind of childlike, right? Yeah, it's because
Devon Stack
01:36:27 that's what a kid, that's what a kid would say,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:36:28 yeah, yeah. But it seems like my dad, actually, even a kid would say, my dad, yeah, maybe
Devon Stack
01:36:36 it's kind of cult, like, is what more what it is, because she's saying Dad, like, it's all of our dads, you
Rebecca Hargraves
01:36:41 know what? I mean? Yeah, there's just something up there's something up there. And then the reason that we did this show right now is that, a few days ago, she puts out a new video about his about his status, and she's saying that she has, she has figured it out once again, that she's figured out that he has mold toxicity and that he's been diagnosed with chronic inflammatory response syndrome, which sounds as made up as fibromyalgia, or, yeah, it's the black mold.
Devon Stack
01:37:17 All girls are afraid of black mold.
01:37:19 Oh, my God, by the way, I looked into black mold, because I have lived in places that have had black mold, and I was, I hear about this, oh, black molds gonna make you die and grow an extra arm or something. You look into it, and actually 00, danger.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:37:36 The it has some danger, but it's mostly respiratory stuff, no.
Devon Stack
01:37:40 But even the toxins like that, the amount of black like it does release a toxin, but the amount of toxin that it releases is so it's almost undetectable, that the that you'd basically have to, like, breathe with your face against the black mold as you slept every night to get any kind of symptoms, like, if you have black Mold, like behind, like, a, you know, like your refrigerator, or something like that. Literally 00, issues. Like, I mean, it's gross. I mean, you should probably clean up, but I mean, like, it's terms of, like, actual people
Rebecca Hargraves
01:38:10 on the right negative help out about mold. And it's just another boogeyman that, you know, most molds, we're surrounded by mold, and it's just right of the way that we have to adapt to our physical environment. And usually it just usually it just causes mild respiratory events in in in people that already have susceptibility to it. And that's and that's
Devon Stack
01:38:30 basically the reason the mold gets there in the first place, is those spores were already there. I mean, mold didn't just spontaneously start existing in those spots. The spores are always in the air all the time. Like, if you have, like, a piece of bread that gets moldy, it's because those spores are already in there. They just, they just start growing on the, on the on the bread. So, yeah,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:38:51 yep, exactly. Um, so she talks about how he had double pneumonia and sepsis previously. She doesn't know what caused not quadruple pneumonia, yeah, really in my four lungs. But what's
Devon Stack
01:39:05 double pneumonia? How do you
Rebecca Hargraves
01:39:06 have you have pneumonia in both of your lungs? Okay, but it seems like he was getting a lot of really weird treatments. He was getting spinal stem cell injections. There's really no evidence that this is effective at all. I heard him talking about how he went to some Mexican retreat with like, a Vision Center, where they would take you to the sauna, and then they would take you to the Vision Center.
01:39:31 And he's like, and it's more advanced than any medical center that I've seen in the United it's like, we have no idea what the outcomes are from not that I'm an advocate of government regulation. But like, if something was going terribly wrong in any of these places, we wouldn't have a fucking clue. Like, there's no evidence backing any of this up. I hate to sound like a scientist, but, but there is no there's no science backing backing up any of this shit, especially with injectable stem cells. There's not a lot of scientific evidence. Into the back of that as a treatment for for what he was dealing with. And then she says that this leads to a recurrence of psych med induced neurological injury from the previous benzo thing. And then he gets this severe apathy.
Devon Stack
01:40:17 The injections led to that.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:40:19 Well, she doesn't talk about those very much because, you know, we don't know what all of his treatments are. One can
Devon Stack
01:40:25 only imagine if, like, apple cider is gonna make you not sleep for 25 days having liquefied baby blood, you know, injected into your spinal cord, that's probably not gonna help out.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:40:35 She's like, well, it's idiopathic pneumonia. It's like, and then sepsis after the pneumonia. I'm like, I don't know. I'm not a doctor, but this sounds like like you got some fucked up treatment from some weird clinic in in some whatever country, and that you're having some some negative effects from it, right? And so he gets the aesthesia again, and then he gets poly neuropathy, myopathy. He's in the ICU for three months.
01:40:59 He's very sick, horrible, complex and ongoing progress coming slowly. He steps away from public life since 2025 under assisted care. And she's saying that like neurological injuries like this are very common and misdiagnosed, and they're triggered by immune dysfunction and stress and mold. So he's in prolonged recovery. I don't mold again. I know he's, he's like, triple Vaxxed, by the way. Oh yeah, and he was an advocate of the vaccine. I mean, I don't, I don't know how anybody could be drawn any conclusions about his health.
01:41:35 Like the mold toxicity thing is another one of Mikhaila's machinations. It's like, what are what? How can you even draw conclusions like this? I mean, I don't trust Western medicine. I don't trust doctors, but this is not the way like going into totally pseudo scientific realms in third world countries, not Russia, but, you know, Mexico to get experimental treatments and then act like it's fucking mold, like this is like, What is your deal? I don't know. I mean, I think that she's psychopathic, and she's certainly financially capitalizing off of her father's health issues.
01:42:15 But, you know, I do think that there's a spiritual component to this. He's, he's absolutely deteriorating because he could not deal with the moral injury of him betraying young white men, and that led him to a benzo addiction, and then that, you know, that kind of descended into a series, a cascade of worse health issues. I don't know which of these are real, but I do know that Mikhaila's bitch and that she's gonna do whatever she can to there's a part in that video where she, like, tries to cry. Have you seen Arrested Development where Lindsay's like, trying to cry? Michael's like, are you right now? But it's like that, and she has this weird satanic background. There's like, a picture of a lamb, and then like, a weird tree, and she's like, and my father, this is hard for me to talk about.
Devon Stack
01:43:03 So are you talking about the interview when she's a kid that she tries to cry?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:43:08 No, in this, in this, no, no, this update that she did last this week. Oh, Okay, gotcha, yeah, yeah. So I don't know this is just like a family. The reason that this is cathartic. Everybody's like, when I tweeted about this, because I was like, This is payback time for Mikhaila, for the Munchausens by proxy that her parents did on her when she was a kid. I got a lot of people in the comments like, you're so hateful. This is just coming from a place of Listen, every once in a while, in this severe because I've been around for a long time. I've been doing this for 10 years.
01:43:41 Every once in a while, every once in a while you watch somebody that has fucked with the white cause in a meaningful way that, like, really did some damage to the white cause. You watch them get what they deserve. All right. Dennis Prager, vegetable, all right. That was awesome. When I found that out, I was like, I hope you stay in this vegetative state, and then you die, and then you burn in hell. Now we should, we should be able to take this moment and be like, okay, sometimes people do get what they deserve.
01:44:09 Sometimes people live in a terrible state because of the things that they've done to the cause. And we should be able to rejoice in that. And so, you know what? Jordan Peterson, you deserve every bit of this. Mikhaila Peterson, you're a monster, and your whole family is so fucked up and psychopathic, and I hate every single one of you. I hate everyone
Devon Stack
01:44:34 based Yeah, it's true, like I all I could do is sit back and watch as this guy you know, worked against our interests and fooled so many fucking
Rebecca Hargraves
01:44:46 people, and he was so influential and so powerful.
Devon Stack
01:44:52 Now I find, I find that's that's the most frustrating thing about what we do, is when you see these. People get super popular, get a lot of influence, and immediately start leading people away to the slaughter, and there's nothing you can really do about it. And it used to really, it used to really frustrate me more than it does now. I've just kind of realized that, in a way, this is kind of part of the selection pressures being applied to white people, that the people with low discernment and low in group preference will be led astray.
01:45:30 They will be led off by these people that are subversive. And you know that they'll, they will. They'll, ultimately, not just the subversive person will pay a price, like in the case of Jordan Peterson, but the people that lead astray. And it's and it's sad, because like, you know, you feel like, well, you know, it'd be nice if we could save those people. But in a way, it's kind of like, well, not really, because, like, those are the genes you kind of don't want passing on. Those are the kind of people that just make more in the way motherfuckers, when you're in line at, you know, Costco or whatever. So it's, it's bittersweet, I guess, I guess so I
Rebecca Hargraves
01:46:09 didn't even, I forgot to talk about her plastic surgery. Now it's too late. No, it's not too late, really. Can I talk about it? Okay, let's do it. I love going through pictures of people and what they used to look like, and figuring out what they've had done and before, okay, I've had some light Botox. Alright, I've never done anything else. Now, let's talk about what Mikhaila Peterson has had done.
01:46:28 Can you put that picture for 2012 or whatever up? Okay, since then, because I've watched a lot of plastic surgeon reacts videos on Mikhaila Peterson, she has had an eyebrow, lift an upper bleff. She's had rhinoplasty, she's had breast implants, of course, she's had filler and toxins, and most recently, she had a very serious V line Korean surgery on her jaw, which actually shaves down your mandible. You can tell because her, her neck is so thick, you know,
Devon Stack
01:47:04 I'm getting pictures of her to pop up here.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:47:07 Oh, of new pictures, yeah.
Devon Stack
01:47:09 Oh, this is the before and after of her. I think of her. Let me hang on one second of that exact surgery. You were just
Rebecca Hargraves
01:47:18 mentioning the V line, yeah, it's no joke. Like, you wake up, I think it's like a four hour surgery, and you wake up, fucked up, and you have to recover in a recovery room for a really long time. And three of these surgeries that she's had, the rhinoplasty, the V line surgery, and the breast augmentation, all require general anesthetic. So, like, she can handle propofol, she can handle a gallon of Andrew Tate's jizz, but she can't, but she can't eat a fucking salad. Like, come on and on the left, she had already had rhinoplasty, lip fillers, the brow lift and breast implants.
Devon Stack
01:48:02 Yeah, I just found I got some more photos here. I'll bring up here.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:48:06 You can tell she might have had a cat eye surgery too. That might just be the upper bluff. Is that a thing? Cat Eye Surgery? Women on Instagram are really into it, yeah.
Devon Stack
01:48:16 I always thought that that was, like, a mistake, because, like, every time, like I you see these women with weird cat eyes? I just thought that was bad plastic. I didn't know it was like an intended consequence.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:48:25 It's called, they call it the Bella Hadid surgery. It looks horrible. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. There we go. And then in 2019 that was before she did the V line. I don't think she had had her breasts done. I don't think she had the rhinoplasty or the upper bleff, and she had just started doing toxin filler there, so that's before most of it. Can you move that over so we can see 2023
Devon Stack
01:48:49 Yeah, let's do this. Will make it easier.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:48:55 So like, Why could she withstand all of this her body? But, but, but oxalates will cause her to hallucinate, or whatever, the fuck. Right? Like, you can take propofol, but you can't eat spinach. I don't know. There's something seriously wrong with these people. Just, like, seriously wrong. You have to to undergo this level of plastic surgery. You have to have, like, major problems, like, there's got to be something up. It's like covering yourself with tattoos. You know, it's a major, major life decision that signals to the outside world that there is something wrong with you. You know what? She's pregnant with her fourth kid right now.
Devon Stack
01:49:37 So she had one with the first
Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:38 husband, right? And she has, she's gonna have three, under three, with her gay husband, who apparently is sticking it to her. So yeah, what
Devon Stack
01:49:46 do I know? Well, as far as you know, there could be a donor husband. It could they could all be Andrew Tate's children, for all we know,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:54 wouldn't that be a twist? But wouldn't they be quadroons? Then? Well, that. Basically, I'm glad I got an opportunity to talk about that, because in my quest to find out information, like solid information for the show, I got kind of derailed.
Devon Stack
01:50:14 There you go. See, we got to, we got to cover the plastic surgery angle.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:50:21 And for people that think that we're mean also, you know, there's some bitterness there, like we've been doing this for so long, and everybody's just been scraping by, trying not to get canceled, relying on on dono money, getting banned from all sorts of platforms. And Jordan Peterson's is going around talking about how he loves Jews and is making $6 million a year. He has more power and influence, even now, than any of us could ever dream of, just ever dream of. And that's that is personally infuriating. Not that I ever would want to achieve that level of celebrity. It seems like a nightmare.
Devon Stack
01:50:56 Well, the bottom line is, you just don't, if you don't mention Jews, you get a lot of money.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:51:02 I mean, that's really what it is. I think that you have to be you have to really kiss their ass well. I think we'll get into that realm, yeah. Well, in
Devon Stack
01:51:11 his case, it wasn't just don't mention Jews. You had to actively fight against white solidarity. That's why he was so successful, right? And so you see a lot of these influencers, and it's funny, because you'll see a lot of these guys on Twitter who have way more followers than you or I combined have, but they get only, like, you know, 20 likes on their tweets, that sort of a thing. It because, you know, obviously a lot of their followers are probably bots or whatever. They bought a bunch of followers, and yet they have, like, these really nice studios they have, you know, they're, in fact, speaking of Jordan Peterson, you know, he's the guy, or he interviewed that guy that did the, what was named James, the guy who came up with woke right?
01:51:52 What's his name? Lindsay, yeah, James Lindsay. He was in that hilarious interview with, with Jordan Peterson, saying that, well, you know, who's Satan. Satan. He's like the he's like the morning star. Morning Star. What happens in the morning? You wake up, wake up, woke you haven't seen that? Oh, my God, I'm gonna download that. I'm gonna download that. I'm surprised you haven't seen that. And Jordan, even Jordan Peterson, was just like, are you serious? Dude? Like, he was just like, looking like, okay, yeah, good, good one, I guess. And he was dead serious, like the guy, like, the look on his face, he wasn't, like, making a joke. He was, he thought he was like, somehow doing this genius, you know, logical conclusion. And, yeah, let's hear James Lindsay Jordan. Let's see if this will pop up. It's so it's so hilarious.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:53:01 Hey, Leonardo. Just texted me. Leonardo Jenny, she said, I'm watching you and Devon's live stream right now. Hey guys, if you don't or hey Leonardo, whoops, if you don't follow Leonardo Joni, you are missing out. She is FoId extraordinaire. That chick never failed me. She's a good one.
Devon Stack
01:53:18 Oh yeah, yeah. Tell her what's up. Okay, I think this is what's up. All right. Let's see here. This is uh, let's see if it'll Yeah, this is it. This is so fucking crazy. Pop it up here. I'm surprised you haven't seen this. So this, this is, it's not even that old. This is from when. This is
Rebecca Hargraves
01:53:46 from woke, right? It's only a few years, it's probably two years old.
Devon Stack
01:53:51 Yeah, this is from a couple years, maybe a year ago.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:53:56 Yeah, it's not well regulated on the net, because most of our, oh, wait, that's not. Why is it on the net?
Devon Stack
01:54:05 Hold on. It's not wanting to download the right one. Let me do it this way.
01:54:15 It's because I have our unusual setup to get you on here live. It's your fault. You're the reason why we don't have instant, instant Twitter videos. Oh, wait, that's because it's trying to do. All right, do this
Rebecca Hargraves
01:54:36 three hour stream. Three hour stream is that we're going for or No, we got a lot of chats coming in.
Devon Stack
01:54:43 Oh, yeah, that's true. Okay. Here is, I'm not sure which one of these clubs is the one we want, but I'll get them all up here.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
01:54:55 Yeah, it's not,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:54:56 that's not the right one. The this is the one. So bad at filling dead air. Sorry, guys. I know I was just sitting there like, dude,
Devon Stack
01:55:07 here we go. This is, I can't believe you haven't seen this. So this is
James Lindsay
01:55:11 why I call these people woke. It's not just that they've gone on cancel rampages and struggle sessions. It's not that they've put me through a relentless struggle session since September without stopping or, you know, doxed, my family and everything else in their wrath, they said, I said, James calls them all woke right? And they decided to prove me wrong by canceling me and struggling me and doxing. Oh, wait, that's not the
Devon Stack
01:55:35 right clip. Ah, what
Rebecca Hargraves
01:55:37 is struggling you?
Devon Stack
01:55:38 Struggling you? This fat faggot. See this guy? He's a perfect example. We were just talking about, by the way, some guy who is completely retarded, like has has no charisma, has no talent, but he tells white people not to notice the Jews and to not collectivize. And he gets Jew money by the hundreds of 1000s of dollars.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:56:00 Yeah, I will say I've never been tempted. I've never been asked. To be fair, no one has ever offered me any amount of money, but this is but I can say that I've never been tempted. Then have you ever been tempted to sell out?
Devon Stack
01:56:16 No, no. Not even for a second. I've had like I had opportunities to work with, you know, Connie, especially. So a lot of people know this. When I first started out, I was just doing like Pepe memes, and I got contacted by a media person, and they said, Oh, I really like your your Pepe memes you should do, because I think Infowars, you know, featured a couple of them, because they were, I was doing these animated, these 3d Pepes dancing around, and just I had this little YouTube channel, and so I started doing, they asked me to do video work for Milo and on his Facebook page, right?
01:56:59 So I was just doing like memes that they were posting on his Facebook page, and when that all fell apart because of the you know, drama with Milo in his fall from grace, I guess. And I obviously was like, well, I could just start doing my own thing, or I could go work, because my background was doing animation and video work for, basically, for other people. And before that, was doing stuff for, like libertarians and stuff like that. And so I was like, oh, I'll just, I'll just work for another pundit or something like that. And I but at this point is also when I started to become Jew, woke and aware of, you know, the bigger picture, and how Trump was kind of a big disappointment, and I was starting to figure things out, let me put that way.
01:57:47 And so I was kind of like, well, I don't really want to, you know, work for one of these people, but I got offered good money to work a few different places, and I just didn't, I did not want to do it. I didn't want to do it because you Yeah, I was like, I'll just so I just at that time, I was like, Well, I at my YouTube channel was doing okay because I was still trying to maintain it as I did work for other people. And I was like, Well, I got money saved up. I'll do the YouTube thing for like, four months, and if I'm like, broke at the end of the four months, I'll get a job. I'll just, I'll just go do something. I'll go back to what I used to do. I'll just do animation work for corporate video stuff or something like that, you know. And, but no. And then it took off. And then I wrote my book, and then I became able to maintain a living. And then, you know, 10 years later, here I am. So that's
Rebecca Hargraves
01:58:48 the way to go. I would have considered it until that tenant media fiasco thing happened. Then I was like, Whoa, good thing that nobody wants to work with me.
Devon Stack
01:58:58 I cannot find that clip. But now He literally says, he says, Oh yeah, it's like the morning star. And in the morning you wake up, woke and Jordan Peterson is just like, Okay,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:59:11 if you can't get Jordan Peterson on board with your word salad, you've totally failed as an individual. He should kill himself.
Devon Stack
01:59:18 I can't. I wish I could find this. It's such a bad it's so like, disturbingly, like, it just, it lowers the bar so low. Like, it's, it is this interview. It's in this interview. I don't know. I don't we're not gonna watch the whole thing, though. But it's just, it's when you realize these guys just, if it wasn't for the money backing them up. I mean this, what would this guy even be? Like? What would he be like, a what a car salesman or something?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:59:44 Like, no, he's not charismatic enough.
Devon Stack
01:59:47 Yeah, exactly. It's like, what would he even do? And so many of these people are like that where you're just like, holy shit, dude. You're just, you just are no good. Like, if it wasn't, was it for, like, the fact that you hate. White people like you would be fucked.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:00:02 That is the worst insult from Devon sack. You are no good man.
Devon Stack
02:00:07 You're just no good you're just a you're a bad man. Supers, let's do it. You want to do entropy first, or
Rebecca Hargraves
02:00:23 whatever you want, what I want is to not make a decision.
Devon Stack
02:00:26 All right, we'll do do entropy first. Entropy. We got gorilla hands says, love the show guys. And you two make a great duo. Dev, and I'm still waiting to hear your interview with Alex Jones, where he calls you. Dave Owen, it's on Dave on I think it's on bit shoot somewhere. Even one of your AI versions of it will do, Rebecca, I love the reset show with Devon's evil twin, Cameron. Where is Dave Riley? I don't know.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:00:58 Yeah, when I drop off a show. I'm like, I it's just kind of gone. I'm not invested in it, like you take the backlash, and I'll just never think about it again.
Devon Stack
02:01:08 It's fine, as I think most people, that's therapy,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:01:12 yeah, periodically, people message me and they're like, it is bad. It has gotten really, really bad. And Matt Christensen show is also just been on life support, so
Devon Stack
02:01:22 there you go. Then gorilla hands also says, pardon my French, Rebecca, but Juden Peterson is a faggot.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:01:29 Yes, he is. Then we got to apologize for saying faggot, you're safe here. This is a safe space, yeah, faggot
Devon Stack
02:01:37 is not a problem. Blunderbuss says, Did you forget to mention that Jordan Peterson only shot to fame at University of Toronto because of Lauren southern filming his public appearances when she was at Rabbi news. I don't,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:01:55 I don't remember this. Oh. Leonardo just sent me the clip. Do you want me to pop it in telegram for you? Yeah, oops, sorry, sorry, keep going,
Devon Stack
02:02:07 Yeah, I wasn't aware that that that's who was shooting those. But I do remember rebel news promoting him pretty hard. That would make sense, right, if you had, you know, Jewish rebel news promoting because that's that whole network is what promoted him. You know, you had rebel news, you had or Rabbi news, you had a bunch of these Zionist outlets promote him and propel him into the mainstream. That's exactly what happened. So, yeah, that would make sense, but I didn't know that. Yeah, I wasn't aware that Lauren southern was the one that did those. But I guess that would make sense. That's, you know, she worked there at that point.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:02:50 So did Faith Goldy, though. And Faith Goldy, you know, Faith Goldy was also a real one. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. People always shit on her, but she was cool as hell.
Devon Stack
02:03:02 Yeah, one of the, one of the few people I've met face to face who's
Rebecca Hargraves
02:03:07 really tall, isn't she
Devon Stack
02:03:08 not as tall as me? Yeah, but
Rebecca Hargraves
02:03:12 you're a giant. I think she's like six feet tall.
Devon Stack
02:03:15 Yeah, she is kind of tall. I'm trying to think it was, I mean, this is more time, like, there's like, eight years ago, I think. But yeah, she, she's, I think, married and kids and stuff now, doing the mom doing the mom life.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:03:29 I wonder how many kids she has. I think she has at least three kids.
Devon Stack
02:03:33 Oh, there you go. She's repopulating the earth. Then we got Hammer of Thorazine says, from my clinical experience. I consider a normal name spelled bizarrely to be a sign of borderline. This is damage done by parents who are always nuts. Psych units are full of names like Mikhaila and often claim to have psychotic symptoms like hallucinations. Borderline has its own effect look, and she has it 100%
Rebecca Hargraves
02:04:06 Apparently, she was named after Mikhail Gorbachev. That's what. That's what Jordan Peterson, oh, God, but it is a name for dirty, dirty, scheming whores, and she is that so I believe you
Devon Stack
02:04:25 don't name your kids after dirty scheming horse. All right, so what do you got on YouTube?
Rebecca Hargraves
02:04:31 A lot of stuff on YouTube. All right, let's see. Big donation from righteous muffin. Thank you so much. It really touches my heart when you guys throw throw that Jew money at us. Replay, gang, Good evening, guys. I've been loving the streams. Gate, great duo. Devon, I can't use Rumble. Please put your entropy in your rumble video descriptions, because I assume they take less than YouTube, and I want more of my shekels going to y'all Hope all is well and have a good night. Entropy is having some problems, but rumble takes 18% YouTube takes their. 30 I believe. Is that right? I don't know
Devon Stack
02:05:04 entropy is. We're live on entropy and on rumble. I just read the entropy ones. So, yeah, if you go to entropy, we're live.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:05:13 I'll tell you who takes the least amount. It's subscribe star. And I have that linked below. It's subscribe star comm slash outlaws. They take like 2% they're these cool Russians. They always get back to me. They're so easy to work with. I love subscribe star, I've never had any problems. So hopefully so we are up and live on subscribe star, so if you want to donate to us on like, a weekly basis or a monthly basis, that is the place to do a subscriber.com/outlaws. Linked below. Righteous muffin also said, just to clarify, I can't use rumble live chats or rumble rants, because it tells me to verify my account, but never sends me anything to verify it.
02:05:50 That is so annoying. I'm sorry. Rumbles problems. Yeah, just use entropy. He also says, it feels like there's a lesson here. Even if you do sell your soul to the small hats, it won't save your life and maybe even taints your soul when you claim to be a speaker of truth. But what do I know that's totally true? And you know, as a fellow hypochondriac, I can say it's, it's rooted in deep self absorption. That's really what this is about. And like every time I when my hypochondrias, this was really bad, I called my brother, who's a doctor, and he'd be like, it doesn't matter. You're like, you're gonna die some day, and it's not that big of a deal.
02:06:22 And I think that that is probably the attitude that people need to have. And we saw a lot of this around covid. It's like, if you're 80 years old and covid kills you, who gives a fuck like, it's fine, we're all gonna die. Is it that big of a deal? It could have been a mix in life, or that big of a deal? Yeah, it's It's okay. It's not a big deal. So it's like, you know, just, just walk off your arthritis. Mikhaila, baby, literally, walk it off. Baby Face. Nilsen, do you think his online self authoring program may have been a scheme of surveillance, profiling and data harvesting of right wingers? Maybe, maybe I remember that concern at the time. I wouldn't put it past him.
Devon Stack
02:06:59 Well, my guess is with the people he's connected to, I'd be shocked. And the way he's monetized everything, I'd be shocked if he wasn't, at a minimum, selling that data to someone, yeah, to choose, yeah. I mean, if Mossad was like, sell us your all of your data for like, $2 million I'm sure he'd be like, Okay,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:07:19 here you go. Yeah, exactly. Adam Keeney, I like Sargon's phrasing. Individual Rights is an expression of Anglo collectivism. That is true. And I know Sargon blocked you, but although it pains me to say it a little bit, because it did, he did take his dear sweet time coming around. He's been doing some good work. No, I believe it. When I see it, I have a soft spot for him.
02:07:40 I don't know what it is. It's those OG YouTubers, like, I still like shoe on head, and I feel like, if you've been around for this long, that maybe you've got, you got some grit, right? Or you're owned by Jews, yeah, yeah. Every single time, a huge Jono. Huge, huge. Thank you so much. Thanks. Rebecca and Devon. His plan didn't work with me. Fortunately, I was at the borders of the GOP plantation when he showed up, and I know to write the fuck out, landed with the libertarians, but realize things are too far gone to be fixed with their ideas.
02:08:13 Now it's roof holes or nothing. Maybe we should be looking at the silver lining on this one like the people that saw through his scheme, and what about all the people that are being converted through his downfall. I mean, one of the reasons that people loved him so much is that they viewed him as a father figure when they were raised by single mothers, when everybody hated him, and so he had this cult like following. Now, imagine that you're in that group, and you see his incredible fall from grace, and you're J woke. Then it would just, it would just light the way, wouldn't it?
Devon Stack
02:08:44 I don't know. I kind of feel like that for some people, again, selection event, right? So for some people, yes, I think people will, the smarter people will realize that. But there's also a lot of people double down when they see their cult leader in distress, or, you know, like having some kind of opposition, even if the opposition is completely rational and justified, they'll rally behind them, out of, ironically enough, in the case of Jordan Peterson, out of some collectivist instinct. So I think those people will, I mean, I mean, you could, I mean, just like with Trump, look at what Trump has gotten away with. And there's still Maga moms out there going, like, God, fuck him, you know, like it's, so it's, there's
Rebecca Hargraves
02:09:28 no but he has historic low approval rating. So that's something, right? Stop shitting in my Cheerios.
Devon Stack
02:09:36 I'm just saying there's a lot of people. And is it really historic low? I mean, it's historic low on Twitter. Is it really though, when it comes to you
Rebecca Hargraves
02:09:44 can never tell with these pollings, poll numbers, yeah, Troy says my two favorite people. Thank you so much. Troy. Really appreciate it. Ryan White. Is he purposely a constructed plant? Did Jews get in his ear? Is he just an average Boomer? I'm crying like Peterson trying to. Figure it out. I think it's a combination of those things.
Devon Stack
02:10:03 Well, one thing I didn't mention we should, probably should have brought up, is he did help. He was an author on the UN's agenda 2030
Rebecca Hargraves
02:10:13 Oh, yeah, he did work for the UN. That's right, yeah.
Devon Stack
02:10:14 So he contributed to agenda 2030 now, was he just some guy that was because he was a university professor, that that because, you know, not everyone's in on some plan just because they help author a paper for the UN but that doesn't, it's not exactly a point in his favor. You know, that doesn't, doesn't make him look less suspicious. Certainly, yeah, yeah, that's true.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:10:41 Altered airs, dearest Devon. When you switch the camera the camera view, it makes the audio fade out and then fade in. Not sure if you realize this, so I'm calling you out in front of the whole team. Hey blonde. Love you guys. Hey, Devon. Are you gonna blame that one on me too?
Devon Stack
02:10:55 No, I think that's just the nature of OBS. There's not much you can do about that unless you got rid of the wipe, then you can cut it Well, unless I'll double check. But I think that's that's just something that happens for it's only a couple seconds. It's like one two, and then it fades back up.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:11:13 So thank you for that Shell Beach. I can't read this because we do institute a strict $10 and up on our Wednesday show, but thank you for the donut anyway. I'm sure you didn't know that. If you didn't know that, then I would read it anyway. If Pierson was a car salesman, he would rage at you to buy this used car and then break down crying when it didn't work. Yes, we're allowed to laugh. Feels good to laugh, doesn't it? I'm good over here.
Devon Stack
02:11:39 All right, then we got likes to watch. Says, Thanks to both of you for making my work days even better. Judging by the thumbnail, this is going to be yet another excellent episode.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:11:50 Cheers. Did you like the thumbnail? Yeah, it's actually pretty good. Thank you. You're getting better. I appreciate it. I know how to how to work the AI,
Devon Stack
02:12:00 now you figured out the the secrets of the I have.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:12:05 Yeah, all right, there we go. So specific.
Devon Stack
02:12:08 Oh, hyper specific, yeah, yeah. When people think that, you know, especially with, like, the AI music I've made, we're like, oh, you're just typing and make a song, and then a song comes out. It's like, No, you could do that, but it'll look like one of Rebecca's first thumbnails. Yeah, you gotta, yeah, I'd be like, super specific with it. We got jafeig says so with the SPLC thing, isn't it just saying that they paid people from all of these groups to be informants, including nick the spic, or am I the one who can't read? Either way, the Fed jacketers are fags. I don't think Nick is implicated. I don't know that we know for like everybody, I'd be surprised. I think during when unite the right, he was, like, 16 years old or something, right?
Rebecca Hargraves
02:13:01 Yeah, so, and the people that I know that went to Charlottesville, like Faith, Goldy and Dave Reilly and Millennial Matt, none of those people were were paid like I can, I can almost I would bet my life on it. They were not paid to be
Devon Stack
02:13:16 there my from what I gather and this, which would make sense with an aging organization like the SPLC, is that the kinds of people that will come up when this, if this comes all the light through the court case, I guess that's now going to happen. It's going to be like these almost defunct organizations, you know, like KKK, maybe like John Birch Society type stuff, you know, like things like, you know, Boomer organizations that aren't really drawing crowds these days, but were in attendance there.
02:13:56 Now that's just, that's just the sense that I get because they did list some of them, right? They listed, KKK, they listed, and it was all organizations that, like, maybe they were relevant in the 80s or something, you know, but like, there was nothing I'd ever even really encountered in all the 10 years that we've been doing this. I've never talked to anyone from any of those organizations that were listed. So never,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:14:19 never like I hear, I still hear people reference like the Aryan Nations. I'm like, listen, I live in Aryan Nations land. Nobody is an Aryan Nation. I've never met anybody.
Devon Stack
02:14:30 So I think they, they might have paid, like, look, for all we know, these are people they've been using as informants since the 80s, right? Like this. This might be people that were plugged into, on some level, some pro white movement, again from the 80s, and still had some residual membership, and they decided to show up on to unite the right, because basically everybody did right.
02:14:54 And so I don't know. I don't know, though I for all I know. I'll tell you what I do know, a bunch of boomers and race traders on X are trying to use this to lie about Patriot front and say, See, I knew it. They were feds. You know, anyone that tries to organize in real life is a fed so, yeah, the Fed jacketing stuff is off the hook. But as far as I know, I don't think it's anyone that that any of us are really familiar with. They don't, you know, but who knows? I guess we'll find out if they ever reveal the names. All right, so then we got revolver says today's Matt Walsh show. He covered Charlottesville and much money SPLC used to put subversives in it to fuck it up. Walsh gets a bad rap, but he does pretty good work as a general right wing type, in my opinion.
02:15:50 I mean, I've never watched one of his shows, so just to be honest, but my I've noticed that, and I don't I've noticed that he's always like, behind, you know he's always like, he's always being drag, kicking and screaming to the next talking point, you know what I mean? And then he goes all out, like, once it's already like, out there. And, you know he's, he's behind the curve.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:16:11 That shows weakness of character, though, right? It really does. It's like, be the leader. You have the audience to be able to take these stands first, but you won't, because you're comfortable with your daily wire money pussy,
Devon Stack
02:16:23 and he works for Jews. So that's the other Yeah. Like, as long as he keeps working for Jews, you can never trust him.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:16:29 I'm concerned about this SPLC thing. You had an excellent tweet. What did you say? You said, like, Jew Coomer, it's something very, very good. I don't want to mischaracterize you. It was, it was a really good tweet. I said, every Boomer slop race trader on this app is hard at work lying about what's in the SPLC docs to try to keep their NPC autopilot followers on the juju come Zog tard reservation, that's peak Devon.
02:16:57 These people are your enemy, and that's totally true. This is just an opportunity for everybody to talk about how Patriot front is an SPLC false flag operation, which is obviously bullshit. Now, I met a lot of people in the sphere. You know, who's the real deal? Thomas Rousseau, that guy. He's got real leadership qualities. I trust him. I like him, and this is just a way for them to discredit All right wing organizations. I think it's going to be catastrophic for whatever movement we have that exists right now.
Devon Stack
02:17:25 Yeah, no, it's, it's all these boomers that have been it basically, it's, it's, they argue the same way, the Flat Earthers and the the people I've been arguing with on Twitter about, like, the space stuff to argue. They just, they just keep recycling. Oh, this, this other account said they were fed, so they're feds. Then it's like, okay, but where's your evidence? They're feds. Well, look, there's a cop standing next to them. Well, yeah, cuz it's a protest, there's cops at the protest. Well, because, like, they're they're not fat. It's like, Come on, let's
Rebecca Hargraves
02:17:57 just, oh, somebody just said, don't forget the James Lindsay clip. Oh, did you? Oh, yeah, did you send to me? I sent it in telegram. Yeah, all right, I will,
Devon Stack
02:18:07 I'll get it downloading right now.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:18:08 You like Patriot front, right? Yeah, yeah. I think
Devon Stack
02:18:12 they're, I mean, I don't know them. I've never talked to them personally, but I have no reason to think that they're anything than what they present themselves as, you know? Yeah, me too.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:18:21 I think they're solid. I think Nova is solid. And I like the Australian movement, which I know people are not super jazzed about, but I think that they're, they're also solid.
Devon Stack
02:18:33 All right, so then we got figure nagget 88 says huge black pill fan, I have a funny suggestion for Devon. You should pull up Dave Chappelles, Clayton Bigsby skit and use a sound clip of his character saying white power, and make a button with it.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:18:54 We need some buttons work. Devon, do more unpaid labor.
Devon Stack
02:18:59 We'll get some buttons going. We'll definitely get some buttons.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:19:03 Next time he does a marathon working session for 79 hours, he'll, he'll get some stuff done. I was,
Devon Stack
02:19:10 I was up till Not, not even working on this. I was up till three in the morning because I've got this building with a a well, this is all boring. Never mind it's no Well, it's this building that's got a metal roof and no insulation and just in the desert. So that building just turns into, like an oven in the summer to where I don't even I it's, it's a building that I only recently cleared out of, like, Carl's garbage out of, right? And I want to store stuff in there, but it's so fucking hot in the summer because it's just a tin roof, and nothing like, there's like, not even like, rafters. It's just like tin roof in, you know, you look up and like, you're looking at the roof, you know. And so I was up till three in the morning putting up. A radiant barrier and all that shit on a ladder last night.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:20:04 So you're a motivated guy. You work hard. A bee attacked me because you deserve it. What did
Devon Stack
02:20:10 you well, cuz by the it's by some of the beehives and I had a headlamp on, and bees are just like every bug. Are attracted to the lights and so there. And because they're angry bees, because they're Africanized bees, one of the guard bees apparently saw the light and went at it, which is on my face, so I have like a light on my forehead, and tried to get me. So it was a harrow. It was a harrowing few moments on the top of a ladder while I was trying to not get stung in the face by bee. I mean, I've been stung so many times.
02:20:42 No, I'm so used to it. I've been stung so many times. It's just that when you get stung in the face, it sucks, because, like, like, if I get stung in the arm, it's like, I don't even really notice it that much. But for some reason, if I get stung in the face, it fucking hurts. And, like, your face swells up and it's like, it's a nightmare. Plus, like, if the I got stung Up the nose once, that was the worst. It was like, it was almost like snorting bee venom, like, because it went straight into my blood system, and it was horrible. But yeah, anyway, okay, and then figure nagget says they're pushing hard for gun gun control now, because the right wing is becoming more racially aware, and there's no putting that genie back in the bottle. The two way has been perpetually under fire.
02:21:30 Yeah, that's true. I wish we get some of these two way people that stop being cocks, though, and just all that. So many of these, like gun creators, are just like, whoa. I just spent five grand on another gun I'll never fucking use. Oh, here's my big closet full of guns I'll never use. Oh, look how it's all these guns that, like, are impractical, like, it's just that, just, you're into guns the same way other people are into Pokemon cards. You know, it's like, you're not actually here to help us or to protect us. You're just like, you know, you've got OCD, and it's about guns.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:22:04 So our guns are all practical. Right amount of guns? I think,
Devon Stack
02:22:09 yeah, everyone should have guns, though. More importantly that, well, not more, but as important, you need to have lots of ammo, and at least you don't have to be one of these people that are like always out there, out at the range, constantly. But if you don't know what you're if you're not, if you're not familiar enough with your gun to use it, it's pointless, so you need to at least get familiar with it.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:22:30 See if Phoenix ammunition were sponsoring us right now, this would be perfect. That would be perfect. Perfect. Come on, come on, Phoenix, we're gonna get you. That would be perfect.
Devon Stack
02:22:41 All right. Then we got volksman says, I'm listening to this as I'm stocking up for holiday. More 2.0 hearing Juden peterstein talk makes me want to order another 40 uncle helpers from pepper cave. Well, there you go. Then we got Tom o'haque says I never understood the appeal of Jordan Peterson that said this is all very informative and interesting.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:23:08 Oh, I'm glad that some people were informed, because I've been talking about this for years. I saw somebody in the live I'm so proud of myself. I saw somebody in my live chat set for the new people in the chat. Blonde is an OG Peterson hater, especially Mikhaila, she's a red pill. A lot of us on the Petersons and gave us many laughs in the process. Yes, I was talking about this like, 10 years ago. I've always thought that family was fucking weird. So I'm delighting in this downfall, delighting you've been talking about it for a long time too. Like right away,
Devon Stack
02:23:35 yeah, I am enjoying this a little bit. I have to say that we got cage motion. Jaro says Peterson is not the only agent out there trying to defuse collectivization of whites. I would argue that any successful internet persona has already accepted the money to betray white people. Yeah, I would say quite a few have. Quite a few have. Then we got evergreen dream. Says, up your woke moralist. We'll see who cancels who, or up yours woke moralists. We'll see you.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:24:09 Peterson famously said that it was very cringy.
Devon Stack
02:24:12 Ah, there we go. And then evergreen dream says, I've seen leftists called Jordan Peterson a crypto fascist because he used the term cultural Marxism, they don't understand that his this guy is a tool, and there isn't a Nazi behind every rock I know. I wish that everyone that the left thought was a Nazi was actually a Nazi, actually a Nazi, I know. And we got Astralis 725, says Jordan Peterson is pitiful at best. Thanks for showing us his mental illness. You're welcome. Then we got jafeig says the discourse from the time period is exhausting to listen to again. Can we just fight about it already and get it over with? Rebecca chat has been. Concerned about your hair roots? Brunette beast,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:25:04 oh, I'll answer that question. I am a natural blonde. I'm a natural seven, but I baby light to an eight and a half around my face. So I am a natural blonde. You can see the natural color, like right here. That's my natural color. There you go. Also, we have turned down the lights in here so that it's a high contrast dark situation, so everything kind of looks darker than it actually is.
Devon Stack
02:25:32 There we go. Then we got Team White says, I arrived to this stream late. I'll catch the first 90% on the replay. Great topic. Dr Craig, thank you. Thanks so much. Then we got cage mission. Jaro says the fact that we have to deal with this display from a white person talking all this shit to white people is another display of power over us. It's propaganda. We should know this. Yep. Then we got revolver 357, and two says I worked for a guy that started his own company. Got a call. He was found dead of sleep deprivation after 11 days of no sleep due to a slamming meth. To work harder, widest way to go.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:26:19 How'd they know it wasn't
Devon Stack
02:26:20 the math, yeah, well, but he's right. The 11 days of the world record, like, That's just you go, you go, even 11, you go. I remember I used to be able to stay up for like, maybe three before I start. Oh, yeah. And that no math, by the way. I've never done math or or anything like that. And I would be 11 days in, or 11 days I'd be three days in, I'd start, I'd start hallucinating, really, the second day. And by that, I mean, like, you remember, you're the movie Ghost with Patrick Swayze, yeah, when, like, the bad people would die, and like, the little shadow people would, like, you know, be in the shadows that would come grab the soul of the person that died. Remember that movie,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:27:01 I haven't seen ghost.
Devon Stack
02:27:03 You ever seen ghost?
Rebecca Hargraves
02:27:04 Doesn't it have that, that hot scene with the throwing the pottery? No, I haven't.
Devon Stack
02:27:09 Yeah, I thought every girl had seen ghost. No, all right. Well, anyway, well, those who you have that'll start happening. I start to see like weird little Shadow Demons in the corners of my vision. Like it just, just barely, like, in the periphery, and it tweaks, it tweaks you out a little bit, like, you know they're not real, but like, you keep sort of seeing them, and by, like, the third day, you start wondering if they're real. And so that's that's wrong. Then you have to sleep. I used to work a lot. I used to work I'd be on projects where the deadline was the deadline, and it didn't matter that there wasn't enough hours to finish it. And so I would sleep under my desk at work and or just not sleep and just drink lots of coffee. And I would live in my office, basically, sometimes for, you know, a week or two, and I've been on projects where, I'd say, even, even recently, now that I'm getting older, I can do two days, and it's before I start to feel like shit. But I used to be able to do three days, no problem. Well, not no problem. But I could do it
Rebecca Hargraves
02:28:21 no if I'm working for more than, like, 16 hours, I'm like, Nope, this is not for me. I do 24
Devon Stack
02:28:26 hours all the time, like, all the time, like, like last week, 24 hours last week. And then when I crash, I only have to sleep for like, like, five, six hours.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:28:41 So this is abnormal. You should get on a regular schedule. Devon, my mom used to say to
Devon Stack
02:28:46 me, yeah, no, it's true. I feel a lot better when I'm not doing that. And like I said, as I've gotten older, I feel the it's almost like, when you were like 19, you'd go out drinking and and come home annihilated, and wake up feeling great, and, you know, start drinking again if you wanted, and then you turn, you turn, like, 25 or something, and just like, Ow, like, the next day, like, what did I do? And it's like, for some reason, you know, like you can't do anymore. It's kind of like that with the sleep with me, it's like, I used to be able to do it, not a big deal, or, you know, not, maybe not a big deal, but like, I could sleep it off. And now I'm just like, I'm I'm destroyed for a couple of days, and I'm sore and I feel like I'm dying. My back hurts, yeah, all right. Then we got cage mission. Jaro says, Oh, wait, that's a duplicate. Then we got astraless 725, uh, five, Negro mamas says Jordan Peterson is pitiful at best. Thanks for showing us his mental illness.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:29:52 Oh, we read that one.
Devon Stack
02:29:53 Did we Yep? Oh, let's see if these are all I know. Yeah, Night Train says these Canucks made a fortune out of nothing. I'm doing
Rebecca Hargraves
02:30:05 it wrong. I know. Man, what would I do with all that money? Honestly, I'd be, like, giving so much money to different pro white causes. Like, I would enrich myself a little bit, like, I'd buy some nice stuff, you know, but I also would give tons of money away. I'd give Patriot front like, $20 million I'd just be like, here's $20 million why is nobody doing that?
Devon Stack
02:30:30 Yeah, you'd think there'd be at least one based billionaire, but I think that, you know, they gatekeep that status, you know, like, they won't let you be a billionaire if they catch any kind of a whiff, you know. And I also think that you have to be so much of a like, you have to value money so much to be a billionaire like, your priority has to be just money to get to that level.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:30:55 I read some study that the difference in your quality of life between, I think it was 50 million and a billion dollars is basically nothing, right? So to get to that status, why wouldn't you just be like, I'm rich enough, and then just
Devon Stack
02:31:07 No, you basically have to be like a psycho that that wants, like, almost like a hoarder of money. So I think there's that. But yeah, you would think there'd be like some crypto millionaire out there. But, you know, because, like, some of these guys that got in really early, I mean, on paper, at least they've got like $200 million or whatever,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:31:28 yeah, some kids, one time, sent me an entire Bitcoin in 20, 2017, or something like that. And then, like, I found a way to contact him, and he was, like, a teenager, yeah, he's like, I bought my parents a house, did some other stuff. Like, you are so cool. Thank you so much.
Devon Stack
02:31:50 Yeah, I mean, you would think there'd be people like that, I don't know. Maybe there's just not, or maybe they're, you know? I guess, I guess that's one of the things that we That's the crux of the problem, right, is so many white people just aren't they're just not racially aware. Although I think that's changing, right? Maybe it's been, it's becoming more normalized. So maybe they'll change. Maybe there will maybe a base billionaire will emerge. Then we got wolf supremacist says, Hey Devon and Rebecca, sorry I've not ranted or super chatted or hyper shattered until now, but I love the show and I love you guys.
02:32:30 Thanks for all you do for our people. Thank you. I appreciate it. And then we got scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. Figure now get I'm gonna read, I'm gonna read one because you've, you've been doing the $5 ones, which is below the threshold, but you've done so many. Now I have to release, start reading some of these, nigger, fat one, no. Figure negative is doing $5 one. Oh, I see on behalf of truth Forge. This is what happened when left hards allegedly shifted right. When Trump ran for office. They were never right wing. They were made or they just made the conservative right more. Am I retarded? I don't know. This is what happened when the left tards allegedly shifted right when Trump ran for office. They were never right wing. They just made the conservative right more.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:33:31 They just made the conservative. I don't get the last part of that. I don't need the last part, but I get everything else.
Devon Stack
02:33:36 Yeah, that's true. And actually the one that I thought fingernaggett, I thought you were someone else. I thought that it was someone who's No, that's the right one, all right, so let's see. Scroll, scroll, scroll, play the Lindsay James clip. Play the Lindsay Oh, we'll do it. I'll tell we'll do it after we we finish this up and do our we should have read the sponsor before doing the the super test, but we'll do that as to keep the key people around long enough to hear the sponsor. We'll save the Lindsay James clip for the last All right. Denise the CELT says to Rebecca, if you love to dissect plastic surgery. Enjoyers, have you ever analyzed Ivanka Trump? She looked like a walking bagel before her reshape, a reshaping Odyssey.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:34:22 She has had breast implants, and she has had a rhinoplasty, but the most, the thing that changed her facial contour so much, and I gotta say, they did an excellent job, is that she had the tiniest chin implant put in, and her plastic surgeon did a really good job. She looks way better than she used to. She was busted, and now she's, you know,
Devon Stack
02:34:46 she was cute when she was like, young, young. And look how young are you talking to him? Like when she was hanging out well, when she was like 18, hanging out with Trump in those Epstein. And photos, yeah, she but she looked like a normal person. She doesn't look like a normal person anymore. Like, yeah, I'll say, yeah, the Plex surgery is good, but, like, it also has its limitations, and she looks nothing like what she used to like. She doesn't look like the same person even.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:35:15 Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I think the chin implant was good. I just hate people with weak chins. I think it's like such a bad facial quality. I'm like fix that. Well, there you go. It's the opposite problem of Mikhaila Peterson.
Devon Stack
02:35:28 Then we got Reinhard 1488, with a big Dono. Says, what a banger of an episode to enjoy as a group. I can never get enough Peterson hate in my life after how he missed or misled and betrayed us, may he continue to suffer and watch our rise with impotent rage.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:35:49 Oh, thank you so much, Reinhardt, thank you Mrs. Reinhardt, thank you Zig thank you all the people in Florida. We really appreciate it. I miss you guys. I hope you're doing well. He's been sending me some pictures. It looks like it's a lot of fun.
Devon Stack
02:36:04 Then we got Night Train says, Were any of the right wingers who rose to fame in 2016 to 2017 legitimate?
Rebecca Hargraves
02:36:13 Oh, yeah, totally. Let's see. Computing Forever was Dave Colin Faith Goldy was Devon Of course.
Devon Stack
02:36:26 Well, I think he's, maybe he's asking like, rose to fame, like Jordan Peterson fame. Oh, who else did? I can't think of like no one that was, no one that's ever reached mainstream fame was legitimate. I think I can pretty confidently say that,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:36:45 yeah, fame, my definition of fame is different, yeah,
Devon Stack
02:36:51 but yeah, there's a lot of old school guys that were legit, but they you know, unless they sold out, that's how you know.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:37:00 Basically, yeah. You know that they are, that they're legitimate, if they're still poor, from that era is still around millennial woes. He's a real deal. Morgoth, also, I know I'm patriotic alternative people. Laura Towler, Mark Khaled, yeah. You guys all you know the who the real ones
Devon Stack
02:37:24 are, yeah. I mean, they're still around. And that's the other thing too. Is a lot of if you're the real ones, they didn't the real ones don't burn out, because the real ones, they just take, they just take the punishment. So they're still around. Mostly, we are
Rebecca Hargraves
02:37:41 gluttons for punishment.
Devon Stack
02:37:43 Well, if you're a true believer, you'll take the punishment, right? Like the people that were just in it to grift, if they stopped making money, they just disappeared, you know, yeah, or if they couldn't take the pressure, and, look, I kind of understand a little bit. But also pussy, yeah, all right. Then we got wolf supremacist says Your anger is very much warranted, because you guys should be our leaders, but Grif shits like Jordan Peterson and company keep us comfortable in our shitty cages.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:38:12 Yeah? Well, I appreciate that the stream was cathartic. Though I feel good.
Devon Stack
02:38:19 Oh, it's nice, it's it's good to see then we got draft work. Says when George Carlin spoke about the big club, do you think he may have been referring to the Jews? No, he was, he's, he was kind of anti white. People like sharing George Carlin clips, because those clips of themselves divorced from George Carlin as a person, are good clips, but he was anti white and he was a shit lib, yeah? Like, Well, like most comedians really, especially from that era, then we got figure nag at 88 says, tonight is my first night ever donating. The mother of my child introduced me to Devon around four years ago, based. We're not together anymore, not as based, but some women can truly be based. Don't let or don't be a low IQ, anti feminist. Well, there you go. That's good, that's good advice. Yeah, you shouldn't just hate all women because a relationship goes tits up. That's just bound to happen. I'm sorry to hear that happen to you, but, yeah, don't give up. Don't give up unless you're like 80 think maybe give up.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:39:36 Yeah, just start using heroin. It's fine.
Devon Stack
02:39:39 Well, you know what they say about you? Ever hear you? Ever talk to anyone that's work at a senior center? This the biggest, one of the biggest problems they have is rampant STDs. Oh yeah, I've heard this because they they're just because, why wouldn't you? Are all just fucking each other, because who cares at that point? Yeah, yeah, it's not a pretty thing to think about, but it makes sense. Let's see here. Then we got revolver says an online friend is friends with Phoenix ammo CEO. I will try to get you guys a commercial. They are good guys. If you need ammo, they are awesome guys. Well, actually, I plan on reaching out to them soon.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:40:27 We're in talks. I've been wearing him down for like. I've been
Devon Stack
02:40:30 a busy man. I'm a busy man. We'll get it. We'll see what happens. I noticed they followed me on Twitter, though, which was, ha, nice. All right. Tomahawk says, I agree. I agree. Where is our super racist? Bruce Wayne, yeah, that's silly, too, not even necessarily, someone that's, like, giving us money, like, so like, someone that has, like, a racist Bat Cave and is going out and, like, yeah, you know, kidnapping George Soros and shit like that. Like, that'd be awesome. Like, why? Why isn't there someone like that?
Rebecca Hargraves
02:41:02 Well, it's just remarkable that that that hasn't happened, especially after covid. I was like, Fauci is just walking around Exactly. We've got all these in cells that are killing you. There was a new mass shooting this week, not in cells, trannies, sorry, in cells. Sorry, grippers. Don't come at me. Um, well, we got all these trannies that are just shooting random people. There was one there was one this week. I think he killed like, eight kids. It's like, can't we, like, harness this tranny power and, like, set it on the right
Devon Stack
02:41:30 the right people? Yeah, that's what I understand. Like, all these people that pop off, they go for, like, the dumbest fucking targets, yeah, the most self defeating target, which, by the way, that's why so many people always just assume it's all fake all the time. Because it's like, it might as well be, like, a false flag, because it, you know, it has the same effect. Like, if, if, that's why I have the grocery store meme on my show. Like, is because of that shooting at a grocery store. It's like, if you're gonna do it, don't do it at a grocery store, you know. Like, that's not the black people at the grocery store aren't the ones that are creating the problems for you. Yeah. So Brent
Rebecca Hargraves
02:42:08 Tarrant, you know he was on
Devon Stack
02:42:13 as, not even him, like, maybe a little bit, but like, not as much as, like, his, his heart was in the well, not as much as the guy, there you go. I wasn't gonna say
Rebecca Hargraves
02:42:31 it, you know, he was getting right at the core of the problem.
Devon Stack
02:42:34 He was a little more focused, more surgical in his stretched and I survived
Rebecca Hargraves
02:42:41 episode from the kids that survived that, and like mill, it was a military operation. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Military operation.
Devon Stack
02:42:52 Generation of leftists that don't exist now, just saying, all right, then we got a revolver. 357, and two says a billionaire giving money to a cause that thinks Juju come is funny. Seems unlikely. Maybe I'm a prude, but I find Emily's disgusting cartoons to be gross. It's unfortunate that so many of you found it funny. Well, first of all, Emily didn't come up with Juju come as a Devon Stack original? No, that's not a Devon Stack thing. It's a Murdoch Murdoch thing. And so it was, it was an homage to a Murdoch Murdoch episode from, like, I don't know, like, seven years ago, or something like that. It's, that's old. You know, you got to
Rebecca Hargraves
02:43:38 find the humor, the juvenile humor and the situation that we're in, otherwise you'll lose your mind. Also, we're, we're millennials, so we grew up with internet culture. You're not gonna, you're not gonna escape it. You sound like a big old fogy. That's right, old man, yeah.
Devon Stack
02:43:58 Go, go, go. Take some preparation, nature. I don't know what's an old people thing.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:44:05 I do old people things all the time. Now I just, I just catch it. The other day, I was like, I had my coffee, and I'm like, wow, we really needed this rain. Oh, god, it's it's happening. It's happening to me. What's really into gardening and knitting.
Devon Stack
02:44:21 Now I'm turning into my dad in some ways,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:44:25 like, Are you a Dockers man? A what a what Dockers the pants?
Devon Stack
02:44:34 Well, I wear the exact same shirts that my dad did all the time. What kind of shirts they're just like the the Wrangler Western, snappy ones. Oh yeah, no buttons for you, no snaps are just so much easier. And I got the pearl, the shiny Pearl, on him, but my dad used to exclusively wear those. And without thinking about it, I've slowly that. That's pretty much what I do now. And the other thing is, I sound like him now, like my voice, like McDonald Well, I guess because, like, I'll say something, and I'll have, like, a weird deja vu where I feel like I just heard my dad say it. It's creeping me out a little bit. I wonder if I want to hurt anyone. Ever walked out to my dad, because he's still around. He's still around like, Oh, are you Devon Stack? Because he still sounds like this. But really, he sounds like me. He doesn't talk much, though, so maybe he's, you know,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:45:30 he's dude, if you are young. I'm telling you, old person hobbies are so underrated. My mom has been on my case to start knitting for like, 10 years. I finally started knitting. I've, like, never been happier in my life. I turn on the fire, old episode of Star Trek. I'm knitting. My kids are asleep. I'm like, this is peak life. I've never been happier peak life. There you go.
Devon Stack
02:45:54 Then we got glub WUB says Kevin Deanna is one of the OGS has a great show called Identity Politics. Would you consider being a guest on the show, or is his power via politics approach too lofty of a goal? In your opinion?
Rebecca Hargraves
02:46:13 I like Kevin De and I had him on the backlash, and I thought he was very charismatic. He a lot of interesting things to say, but he still thinks that we can change the system within the system now, is that a reflection on his character? No, but I think fundamentally, he's wrong, but I would be very pleased to be on a show.
Devon Stack
02:46:32 Oh, there you go. I've never heard of him. Let's I haven't heard of that's not it. Yeah, I've never, I've heard of a lot of people. All right, so that is, let me just double check entropy. Whoa. Entropy got some too. We did that one. We did that one.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:46:54 Let's did that one. Yeah, I'm good. Over here,
Devon Stack
02:47:00 love and a vision says, Check Odyssey. Oh, we got an odyssey chat too. Loving. A vision says, Sorry, I'm late tuning in. I'll get the replay. I would like to see a deep dive into who's who behind all the blacks in the TV and media commercials. I know it's the Jews, but who my hunch is. Larry Fink is paying the agencies $100,000 per commercial. Yeah, I wonder if he might have had something to do with it. I don't know if, specifically, there is, like, a, you know, a board of Jews getting Negroes on TV Association, you know, like, I don't know if that's that so much as, you know, they set the culture. Or maybe there is, maybe there is, like, an active, you know, maybe there is a billionaire that's actively engineering that I don't know. I'd have to look in. I don't know how you'd find that out, though, but yeah, I'd love I want names. I want names, and I want addresses.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:48:06 Reckoning. We can't just lose one person that deserves it at a time from a benzo addiction like we need something bigger. Oh no, we need to.
Devon Stack
02:48:17 We need to bake them some baked goods and bring them to them to that they're home kindly and welcome them to the neighborhood. All right. Then we got Adam, says thing says, I thought these were benzos, but I've had an erection for 25 days now. Am I washing it too much?
Rebecca Hargraves
02:48:35 Yeah, too much. Stop it. You're not supposed to wash under your foreskin, don't you know,
Devon Stack
02:48:41 then we got alky one or alcion. I think it's alcion. I always, I don't know. Speaking of the unite the right situation, Augustus. Augustine is still battling the long tail of that in court. He's one of ours. So it would be great if it would be possible to advertise his, give, send, go. Love you guys. Great stream today. Well, there you go. Not familiar with that situation, but
Rebecca Hargraves
02:49:10 I've read about it, and now I can't recall specifics, so people are going to think, I'm a I'm a bad righty. What's his name? Again?
Devon Stack
02:49:17 Augustine. August Augustus. Augustine. So and
Rebecca Hargraves
02:49:23 people are gonna be mad. Keep going, I'll look into this.
Devon Stack
02:49:29 Okay, then we got card, cards, African American, carjacking American, that's funny. Cards. African American, maybe cover the cod do are he, I don't know. The fuck that is Chad Hari. Is that? I don't know? Or other Indian families who use, well, it's an Indian War. That's why. Who used debt slaves, they human trafficking. Fake to make money on motels as a topic sometime. Also love the show so far. Well, I do have a hotel. Why did a Patel motel edition? I don't know if I specifically mentioned that family name. Maybe I did, and I just, I memory hold it, because I've just, we do so many streams. You know, you can't remember everything you've done, but I did a, it's lengthly. It's like a two and a half hours of full on content, and maybe longer of the whole system, how it's being abused. So it was
Rebecca Hargraves
02:50:34 a good stream, yeah, check it out.
Devon Stack
02:50:36 Yeah, Patel motel edition. All right, and then I'm gonna check back on rumble. Just double check you got any You got any leftovers,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:50:46 we got a big one on rumble from Reinhardt. Thank you so much. Uh oh, no, we read that one. Reinhardt, you sent this twice. Please send us an email and we can send that back. You sent the same chat twice with which was a big donation Reinhardt.
Devon Stack
02:51:06 And then let's see here, that's it. I think over on rumble. Okay, so I guess we have to be quiet, because the transition right people get mad because it gets quiet for saying, Hold on. Okay, so this, Oh, this isn't the clip, but this is a clip. This was good, though. Can we watch it? This is what I imagine is happening at Jordan Peterson's house right now. Suffer.
02:51:42 Daddy. I feel like that's what's going on right now. Anyway, this is the clip here.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
02:51:51 So Lucifer is the Morning Star, and he's the angel of the untrammeled intellect. That's That's how he's portrayed in Milt, right? And he's allied in some strange way with the serpent in the Garden of Eden. If I might
James Lindsay
02:52:07 just interject, if he's the Morning Star, what do you do in the morning after the morning star rises, you wake up, right? Woke
Devon Stack
02:52:21 intellectual powerhouse, James Lindsay, everybody, What a douche. If I may interject here while you're trying to let me, let me wax philosophical with you there. Jordan, what do you do when you wake up in the morning? You woke Right, yeah. My impressed, huh? Can you get a job over at Peterson University? There, I can be Professor Lindsay doctorate on woke
Rebecca Hargraves
02:52:55 pay you a bajillion dollars a year. Jewish, funny money. Yeah, that's, that's
Devon Stack
02:53:01 when Peterson, he's like, man, I was, wish I was back here. So dark from my imagination to straight to an AI,
Rebecca Hargraves
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Rebecca Hargraves
02:55:02 There we go. There we go. On that note, I almost said, this is the Backlash. No, this is not the Backlash. This is Outlaws. I'm Rebecca Hargraves. So you can find me on Twitter at blondes underscore tweets, please follow me there for my mom content. You can find me on Instagram. I'm blonde beast one on Instagram, if you are not sub to me on YouTube, follow me at blonde in the belly of the beast, or my new YouTube channel where we will be streaming my show tomorrow. That's at Rebecca Hargraves one. I do another podcast called The Reset with Mr. Cameron Macgregor, and we do that on Thursdays at noon, Pacific Standard Time. Thank you so much for this extremely fun, extremely cathartic, extremely satisfying stream. It was a good one, absolutely.
Devon Stack
02:55:49 And I am, of course, Devon Stack. You can follow me on black underscored pill that on Twitter. You also have the well, you go to black pill.com We'll take you to the Odysee channel, but, or you can just, you know, watch it on the rumble channel that you're on right now. If that's where you're at, we have the Insomnia Stream every Saturday at 10 o'clock Pacific Time and PM, and that'll be, it's gonna be a good one this, this Saturday, so make sure you don't miss that. All right. Well, in the meantime, you guys have a good rest of your week. We are out of here. Hi, eventually, hang on you.