Outlaws： Episode 25, The Innocence Project - 08/28/2026

00:04:31 Watching Outlaws with Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack.
00:04:40 All right, we are back. How's it going?
00:04:47 Okay, it's weird being here on a Friday.
00:04:50 Yeah, I guess better late than never. You know, although the circumstances not not not the best, not the best. So. I don't. I guess rather than just not talk about it at all, I'm going to go right into it here. Well, let's see here. Well, Churro passed away on Wednesday. Turns out he had leukemia and some other problems. the The short version is he was acting a little bit strange, but not really.
00:05:36 I think you might have you if you watched the stream on Saturday, you might have noticed I sound a little concerned because he hadn't he hadn't showed up. Probably what was happening is he was probably sleeping in the yard is why he didn't show up. By Sunday, he was he showed up. He was pretty much normal, but he he seemed a little more tired than usual. And then on Monday, he slept all day.
00:06:10 Now this was this was kind of unusual, but not super unusual. He'd done it before, especially when it's hot outside. You know, it's that time of year. But usually he'll go out at night once it cools off, and you know, even him not doing that one day-that's not a crazy thing. So I was like, oh, you know. In fact, it was kind of cute because he wanted to sleep on my chair the whole time, and and he slept on my lap a lot that day.
00:06:34 I was like, oh, this doesn't usually let me do this. That probably should have clued me that something was up, but like I was like, oh, that's kind of nice, and he was still eating, and he was alert. Like he didn't seem weird. Like you know, he was he was himself. He was just really tired. And then Tuesday, he continued to sleep, and I was like, okay, something's wrong. And I tried to give him some food, and he wasn't eating.
00:07:02 And with cats, if those of you who know, if a cat is not eating or drinking, they will spiral like health-wise fast. Like my cat Waffle died actually not that long ago, and similar situation. Waffle stopped eating and drinking, and was pretty much you know that was the beginning of the end, so I got nervous and tried to get him into a normal vet, but they couldn't see him quick enough.
00:07:30 So I just took him into the same place that he had seen in March when he got in that cat fight and got the infections. In fact, this might explain why his infections got so bad because this was like a something that has been you know going on for a while. You don't just get leukemia you know immediately. So I took him in thinking, okay, well you know he he doesn't seem too bad. You know he he did eat a little like a little bit.
00:07:59 Like I finally gave I kept giving him like tuna water and stuff, trying to get him to eat something or drink something, but I could tell something was off at this point. And earliest I get him into the emergency place was Wednesday morning, and I brought him in, and they had his records and everything. and And at first, they were like, "Oh yeah, well he's probably got an infection again, you know, you know he's an outdoor cat, and I was like, all right, cool. And so they they checked him out and they did like blood tests on him.
00:08:31 Little surprised this didn't show up the first time I brought him in, but when I came back because they're like, oh yeah, it'll take a little bit time. I was like, all right, so I was in town, so I went to the store because you know I live far away from stores. It was nice to go to a store, and I could tell something was not right because they're like, "Oh, we we need to talk to you about the results of the test, not like, "Oh, he's he's doing fine, or "Or we got him all. You know, I was like, "Oh, great. So they they they let me know that Basically, his test results show that he, you know, he had leukemia. He probably had more infections. He would need a blood transfusion like pretty much immediately just to keep him going. The options were not great.
00:09:17 She basically said, even if you had infinite amounts of money, and we just started giving him chemo right now. He has some of these other compounding issues, like autoimmune issues. That his the chances. I mean, you could maybe squeeze a little bit of time out of him, but it would be horrific.
00:09:39 And I was like, "Well, what if I just, you know, took him home? And she said, "Well, he might last a a couple days, but he'll he'll just die of like dehydration because he's not going to drink anymore, and we could maybe give him an IV, but the you know the unfortunate option was you know." You can be here, and we we can put him down.
00:10:03 Oh,
00:10:05 so
00:10:06 I'm sorry, Devon.
00:10:10 So that's that's you know that's that's what I did, and you know, well,
00:10:19 Chero was an abandoned cat probably right? Someone probably left him on on your desert property because they were like this. This cat's a pain in the ass, and then you gave him a life like he was a little king, and he got to go out and hunt in the wilderness, and then come back and cuddle with you and go on a crazy adventure for five months, and you know I I don't think that a feral cat could have asked for a better life. Also, he will live on in white history because he's an internet legend. That cat.
00:10:55 Well, and and I was thinking about it like I was trying to think of silver linings, obviously, because that sucked. But but I was like you know on the bright side you know I got to at least you know because he was an outdoor cat and because it is dangerous out there and I would always worry that you know one of these nights he would you know find himself being attacked by coyotes or something like that you know meet some kind of violent end or get injured and and and not be able to make it home or something like that, and at least this way, you know, I could be there for him, and you know, so.
00:11:34 Well, you did the right thing because he would have just gone home and suffered, and I know that was hard, but you did the right thing.
00:11:42 Yeah. So for those who don't know, he was ah. There he is again. He was a cat that that showed up. In fact, there's a stream called Ghost Cat Stream because that was before I I named him. I wasn't sure.
00:11:56 I didn't think he was going to stick stick around for the years after after that stream, but he showed up at my back door after I heard some car driving around.
00:12:06 So I think it's quite possible someone just dumped him out in the desert, or it could have been coincidence. He might have just come out of nowhere, but I, you know, the timing was suspicious, and so I, you know, started feeding him, and he was like living in my yard, and I couldn't let him in the house because I had waffle at the time, also known as classified cat, and they hated each other, and so I was like, "Well, I can't just you know I can't just open the borders and let in the the refugee, but I can, you know, keep him outside.
00:12:43 Make sure he's comfortable, and I did. And I and I built him a heated tub in one of my sheds because I I realized he was living in one of my sheds. He was climbing in and out of a hole in the roof, and so I started feeding him out there. And I and when it got cold, I I built this tub with a heating blanket underneath it and a thermometer, so like it kept it all nice and toasty.
00:13:06 And then we had ChurroCam for a while on the stream, where you could actually watch him when he was in the tub. And in fact, to show you how well this tub worked, this is an old video of the ChurroCam.
00:13:18 It's not aimed very well. You can kind of see him right there on the right. He's that's inside his tub, but the the camera on the left is the the weather. Like, watch this. So there's like a a storm going on, and Churro's just chilling in his tub. So that was that was the situation there, where he got to live in his tub, and and you know, and if it was like freezing temperatures at night, you know, he was nice and toasty, and he slept a lot in that tub.
00:13:52 But eventually, eventually through trial and error, and you know, slowly introducing him into the house, I got classified cat to kind of get over it, and so he made it into the house, and we sectioned off a part of the house so that you know they would still be separate. So I went if I just left them alone when I was out of the house, they would have killed each other. Well, true, would have killed would have killed waffles.
00:14:16 What would have happened? And so I had this little caged off. It was the laundry room. I had this little caged off room with a cat flap that so he'd come in and out. He would be technically in the house, but separated, and so that's where he was living for a while. But then, you know, he especially after classified cat died, he was spending a lot of more time in the house.
00:14:40 And but I just had to keep an eye on him because during certain parts of the year he would try to mark his territory, which is not a great thing. It's but you know, luckily the technology has improved to clean that up, so I'd be I'd have to go around the house with a black light, spraying little churro marks.
00:15:00 That he had left, but it only happened in the spring. Once he got got it out of his system, he was he was good for the rest of the year. But hopefully, in people, there's it's funny because there's people that said I should have him fixed. I'm super glad I didn't now because Churro's DNA probably lives on, and other cats all around the the area. In fact, I've seen some that are likely candidates that look quite a lot like him. So hopefully, he has he has little bastard kids running around, and who knows the white cats are maybe even grandkids at this point. So, but yeah, he had a he had a good run.
00:15:43 He, you know, I I do agree that you know because you you think about stuff like you know oh yeah I I should have hung out with him more I should have done this or I should have done that and I was like you know compared to the scraggly cat that I see at the gas station you know like this guy's got it pretty fucking good. Like he ate fancy feast to a degree. He was the most. He ate more than I did.
00:16:07 Like in terms of like I spent more on money on his food than my food, and I definitely spent more money on his medical bills than I spent on mine. So he had it pretty fucking good, and you know there really wasn't much I could do. I I was tempted to bring him home, and you know, hang out with him, but it just it just it seemed selfish, and you know, he he was, you know, it's it. I I think I think that that was the best I could do for him. Of
00:16:40 course it was. Yeah, you built him a tub. He had such an awesome life, and you know why everybody loves Chero-not just because he was your cat, but that cat lived life on his own terms. He did what's true.
00:16:52 We'll never know where he was. I mean, I was thinking the other day. I was like, well, I'm never gonna know where he was those four or five months. Yeah. But then I was, but then I was like, well, it's not like he was going to tell me next week. You know, I was never going to know anyway. You know, so yeah, we'll never know what he did. But I think that no matter how you look at that situation, that shows that he liked it here.
00:17:13 You know, because whether he was living at some old lady's house for fun, you know, he ended up back here. You know, so he he obviously had a good time, and and I'll tell you what the the night before he kind of went downhill, and I was kind of thinking, you know, this would I guess this would have been Monday night because he went out in the yard, and I was like, you know what, I think he's probably just sleeping in the yard. I got to find him, and so I went outside with my headlamp and I was like calling him, and he ran up to the the gate, and he was a lazy cat. He wouldn't jump over the gate if I was out there.
00:17:51 He'd make me open it for him, and I went and opened up the gate, and and I reached in to pick him up, and he and he jumped into my into my arms because that's what he would do. He he liked being picked up, and he immediately started purring, and he was happy, and he was purring the whole last day that he was here when I was petting him and stuff. So he he had a good last couple of days for sure.
00:18:13 Even though I my guess is he was probably in a lot of pain because cats hide their their issues pretty good. I mean, he was like, like I said, this was probably you know the the symptoms were to some degree probably going on for a while, but his behavior was exactly it didn't really noticeably change. I don't think till like say Friday, so he was able to keep it together. I mean, he was still frolicking around the the street and and probably killing wild animals up until last week. The very
00:18:48 end.
00:18:49 Yeah,
00:18:49 he probably killed a whole family of bunnies the day before he died.
00:18:53 Yeah, probably and quail. So, yeah, I I'll I'll tell you what the I'm gonna have to start poisoning the rats again because I stopped poisoning the rats when I got churro
00:19:04 because right
00:19:05 and and he would definitely and he I'd find headless rats all the time and and so I was afraid if I poisoned the rats he you know he'd start getting poisoned but now if he's not around I'm gonna poison the shit out of those rats again because I've I've got a I've got a roof rat right now that's I can hear up there sometimes. Ew. Yeah, that's it's pack rats out here. It's the desert. So yeah, it's not fun. Well, the
00:19:29 live chats with you. They're they're being very sweet, and everybody's really bummed out.
00:19:35 Yeah. Well, and and I I want to say thank you to everyone because I I tweeted out Wednesday, and that when I tweeted that out, I I was I thought for sure I would take him in. They'd do what they did last time, and he'd come up, you know, he'd come back home looking a little retarded, and he'd be he'd get over it. So I wasn't I wasn't trying to give everyone a cliffhanger.
00:19:55 That was I legit thought he was going to be fine, and then I just didn't give anyone an update because I just. I was just kind of bummed out. I didn't want to be like, "Oh, he's dead now. Sorry, but I do. I do appreciate. Like, I was surprised at how many people had had nice things to say, and so thank you to everyone that that replied to that tweet, and some people that DM me, and and I appreciate that. So, anyway, I know it's kind of a bummer way to start a stream, but I just you know we we couldn't just
00:20:29 wondering. I was getting dams all the time. Like, how's Truro doing?
00:20:33 Yeah, yeah.
00:20:34 You gotta had to talk about
00:20:36 it. Yeah, I just couldn't leave you guys hanging. So, how
00:20:40 do we transition from this into a story about insidious Jews?
00:20:46 Well, Jews probably hate cats, right? I don't know. Well, I we were we were talking about that before the show. I was like, should we come up with like a a segue topic so we don't have to just go from, well, this is depressing. Now let's talk about this, which is also
00:21:04 depressing.
00:21:05 Yeah, I just couldn't come up with anything. I was like, I don't know. Like, there's no good way to do this. Well, I think
00:21:11 people people understand. Everybody understands like the love that you have for a pet and a pet that loves you unconditionally. And Chura was like a a special pet. Like the other cats were fine, but Churro was there was something special about Churro.
00:21:26 Yeah, he he was he was he was a good cat. Yeah, I I don't think I'll I'll ever have a cat that cool because he was cool as fuck. So and he was not
00:21:36 for Churro, you guys,
00:21:37 and he hated Mexicans, which is also kind of cool.
00:21:40 Probably because some non dropped him off in the desert.
00:21:43 Yeah, that's probably what it was. No, because he he was totally fine around everyone I introduced him to to like a weird degree, except for the one Mexican he saw. He was terrified of the Mexican.
00:21:56 He's only seen Mexican. How's that possible?
00:22:00 This place is just because it's in the desert doesn't mean it's crawling with Mexicans. I mean, you got to remember, like this is not an easy place to live. Diversity tends to gravitate towards the urban centers where there's more resources they can they can suck from. Out here, you got to actually work hard. So, no, I mean, it was kind of funny that that was the one time it was the guy checking the gas line or whatever. He was like, "Holy shit! and just ran for it. So lots of animals are racist. Lots of animals are racist.
00:22:33 Yeah.
00:22:34 So yeah, yeah. They have they have that sixth sense about them. So, but anyway, I I was thinking, so I I canceled my stream Saturday actually before any of this churro stuff, and I'll probably still not stream tomorrow. I was thinking about doing like a churro tribute, but I just don't even know really what that would be, you know. And so I I'll probably just we'll probably just go back to normal next not tomorrow but next Saturday, and if I'll go through some. There's a lot of churro video and stuff that you guys probably haven't seen.
00:23:12 Maybe I'll I'll I'll put some of that on the timeline and and and because people might think some of it's fun, like you know there's video of him hanging out on top of beehives and stuff like that. You know, so you know, I don't know. Maybe I'll do that at the end of the the show next Saturday or something like that. But yeah, it kind of sucks because like it feels like I should be doing more, but just like I don't, you know, I don't want to, you know, I don't know what else really to do other than you know pour pour out some of your 40 for churro tonight. You know, and for the homie that couldn't make it. But the other weird thing about him is I have no idea how old he was.
00:23:53 Yeah, really. He could have been like 18.
00:23:57 He could have been because he was he was like the same size the whole time. I mean, he would get fat and skinny depending on like he'd get really fat in the winter, and then he'd get really skinny in the summer, and yeah, he would look almost like a different cat. Like right, this picture hit. That's Fat Churro right there. But he was he would definitely go skinny mode, and so I don't know where I was going with that, but anyway,
00:24:23 you didn't know how old he was because he was. Oh yeah, yeah,
00:24:24 yeah. So he never, yeah, he he never got less active. Really, he always seemed about the same. So, um, and I guess cat years are probably the same as like dog years. You know, times it by seven. So even if you just count the time that he was here, you know, he was probably like in his 30s at least. You know, maybe, maybe, maybe middle aged. I don't know, but he could have been much older. There's no way to know. But for a desert cat, probably lifespan was pretty good. So,
00:24:56 yeah, he didn't get eaten horrifically by a coyote.
00:25:00 Right or hit by a car, or or or like if he hadn't made it home after that cat fight, you know, just he would have just died in some sagebrush somewhere, you know, or something like that. And so there's lots of there's a lot of ways he could have gone that would would have
00:25:14 been would have been a lot worse. Yeah,
00:25:16 yeah. So
00:25:17 yeah,
00:25:18 but anyway, I'm
00:25:19 smiling like an idiot, only because hearing sad Devon is such a bummer.
00:25:24 Yeah, yeah. Well, it's you know, people think I'm depressed all the time, but I'm not. I'm actually pretty upbeat. So anyway, Jews, I hear. Here's a yeah. Here's a Jew. I tried to pick
00:25:40 out the jewiest picture of him I could possibly find. I was like, "This is an excellent candidate.
00:25:45 They're all pretty chewy.
00:25:46 This guy, though, I mean, look look at that. He looks like Richard Gere, but uglier somehow.
00:25:52 Like Julier, yeah,
00:25:55 yeah, yeah. This is Barry Scheck, criminal defense attorney, civil rights lawyer, no surprise there, and founder of the Innocence Project. Most importantly, member of O.J. Simpson's Dream Team defense. I'm sure everybody was glued to that case. I don't remember how old I was. I don't know seven or something, and I remember watching watching like all of it. So I was in grade
00:26:19 school, and they played it on the TV in school, like the teachers were watching it.
00:26:23 That's insane. Okay, as you can tell by this guy's face, he was born into a Jewish family in Queens, raised on Long Island, and of course, he describes his upbringing as a classic second-generation immigrant household with left-wing striving values. I like this quote that he said championing that they were championing the rights of the underdog, and that's a Jewish value, and so that's what he that was his life's work.
00:26:49 He went to some super Jew school called Yeshiva University, the Cardozo School of Law, Cardozo School of Law, and then with his buddy, I guess we can pull up his picture now. He launched the Innocence Project specifically to use DNA testing to free the wrongfully convicted. So this is Peter Newfeld, and he's also
00:27:11 this
00:27:13 is that's also a really Jewy picture. I don't know how you can have Jewish teeth, but this guy does. Look at that. He was also on OJ's defense, but they met when they were working the Bronx. He was also a legal aide. He had the same kind of, I want to be a civil rights attorney. I help minorities. And later, I wanted to read this because I thought it was so funny. Later, Newfeld found co-founded the civil rights firm Newfeld, Scheck, Bruston, Hoffman, and Freudenberg. Can you believe that? Five Jewish people, civil rights firm.
00:27:47 My firm is Freudenberg. Yeah, yeah. So they basically had this the same career projection, and that's why they created the Innocence Project, which I think fundamentally is an anti-death penalty organization. I think that that that is really what their mission is: to use dubious DNA evidence to introduce doubt, to get convictions vacated, and then to call it exoneration and act like they're saving the lives of minorities. The whole thing is so gross. Well, it's also so much.
00:28:26 There's also an insidious aspect to it. It's obviously also a campaign against the death penalty. You know, it's it's they're they're they they're trying to give because a lot of this has propaganda power. It starts to undermine people's faith in the ability for the government to convict people, or or or or that, or I guess amplify the perception that innocent people are being incarcerated all the time, and so it gives you ammunition when you when you go to tell people that oh we can't do the death penalty because you know look at all these innocent people that would have been put to death if we'd had the death penalty. Right, that's like a huge part of it. I think it is
00:29:11 a huge part of it. Let's see where did I put this reoffense. Damn, it would have been perfect right here. Now I can't find it. But there's a what based on his exonerate their exonerees they have estimated that one to 4% of people in prison are innocent.
00:29:33 But DNA cases are actually a tiny minority of criminal convictions. Most of it circumstantial evidence, witness evidence, things like that, blood evidence, DNA is actually not a huge portion of all of this. So better estimates think that about 02 to zero 6% of people are wrongfully convicted. So they're using this DNA thing to extrapolate to the general criminal population, and it's it's a total. Farce. It's a lie. That means that 99.98% of people that are in jail for a criminal conviction are have been rightfully accused. Well, and
00:30:10 now here is the the the most Jewish part of the whole thing, though. They got their fame and fortune from the O.J. trial, where the DNA evidence clearly proved OJ did it,
00:30:26 yeah,
00:30:27 and they they made their their money off of the the concept that DNA actually was not very reliable, and now they flipped it around their their whole career.
00:30:40 Yeah,
00:30:40 so you ready for the OJ stuff? You want to go into some of the OJ? The GM one. All right. So, for those of you who don't know what happened with the OJ trial, and I don't know, I'm sure there's some of you maybe out there that are maybe unaware of that a little bit. Here Is this one is was this the Scheck guy or yeah Shek? This is Barry Scheck talking about you know his it was egregious. This is egregious. Why is not playing? Oh, because oh, because I muted the. There we go.
00:31:20 Defense attorney Barry Scheck was a member of Simpson's dream team and one of the most vocal critics of how the evidence against O.J. Simpson was collected and processed. The
00:31:30 way that crime scene was handled, by the criminalists from the Los Angeles Police Department, by the people in the crime lab when they did the initial DNA testing, and by the medical examiner's office was shameful.
00:31:46 It's shameful. It's shameful. So the DNA evidence, which a lot of people aren't even aware of the extent of the DNA evidence, they don't realize that, as an example, that there was a bloody glove that was found at the scene of the crime that obviously had Nicole Brown Simpson's blood all over it, and it had Ron Goldman's blood all over it, but a matching glove, the you know the the other glove with just as much blood on it, was found on O.J. Simpson's property by the responding officers, they were going to see because they initially thought that well, if if we can't get a hold of O.J. and someone just killed his wife, maybe maybe he's you know dead because they saw blood blood on his Bronco. So they're like, oh, there's blood on his Bronco.
00:32:39 We have to go inside the premise and see if maybe you know something's going on, and they saw the bloody glove. They talked to Cato Kaelin, who was living in the bungalow in the back. That weirdo, and they also found a hat, like a ski mask, at the scene of the murders, and there was there was African American hair, but because hair does not have the same kind of DNA in it that you know, like a you know, like blood does, you couldn't just test the hair and be like, "That's OJ's hair. Here is a reenactment of OJ stabbing his wife and her boyfriend to death. The
00:33:24 evidence suggests that when Nicole came out of her door and were going in slow motion, that she was approached by O.J. Simpson, who hit her on the head numerous times, and then she has three stab wounds to the left side of her neck that went very, very deep, and she goes down, causing abrasions to her elbow, to her face, from hitting the concrete. Then, after she is down on the ground, then Ron Goldman walks up, and when he walks up, an altercation is between the two of them.
00:33:53 The glove comes off because O.J. had his left arm around the glove, drops in the scene, and he incapacitates Ron Goldman, and then goes back to Nicole, and then picks up her hair, cuts her throat from left to right, all the way back to her her spine, lowers her head down, and then with the evidence that is on the knife, goes back to and then cuts the throat of Ron Goleman, and then he's bleeding on the bars and then lays him over on his left side through that process. And this is a position that Goleman was in somewhat. Then he goes back to Nicole, steps on her back. There's a foot impression in this area on her back, and then leaves the scene.
00:34:44 By the way, size 12 shoes, the the same Gigantor size, well that I have, but also that O.J. Simpson has. So they also found. Oh, wouldn't you know it? When they they got a hold of. Of O.J. he had a slice, a fresh slice on his hand, and that slice mark actually made sense when you think about the struggle that would have taken place between Ron Goldman, a Jew, so not that big of a deal, and he lost his the first the the glove that was left at the scene. The glove slipped off while he was struggling with Ron Goldman, and then he sliced his own hand, and they they demonstrate how that would have happened.
00:35:29 That consistent with the glove being removed, this is how this occurrence happened. That during the struggle, the glove came off and dropped to the ground, and notice that the knife blade at this point and stick your finger out would be parallel to where O.J. Simpson's hand would be, and that could come across and cut this incision that was on his finger. Everything is parallel. There's nothing cross section to it, and this is consistent with the evidence of a struggle, which can happen.
00:35:56 So yeah, I did it. Well, did do it. Hold on, it gets better. So the again, we're all we're all so concerned about DNA, are we? Are we? Are we Jew lawyers that that run the Innocence Project that got all your money doing this case right here, saying this was all bullshit? So because he cut his finger after killing Ron Goldman, he dripped blood at the scene. There is O.J. blood dripped down these stairs here, and you know that's that's kind of a big deal. And they ran the test on that blood. The
00:36:33 odds the blood came from someone else were calculated at one in 170 million.
00:36:40 Ah! How did they get
00:36:44 out of this? It was they just tried to conquer the lab processing techniques and then focused on LAPD incompetence and bias, and they
00:36:54 we'll get into that in a second. But yeah, like that's I mean he's basically saying that like because they also found blood on the gate, and on the gate, the blood was
00:37:05 blood found on the back gate at the murder scene was also identified as Simpson's. Here, the odds of it being someone else's were one in several billion, greater than the population of the planet.
00:37:19 So the blood on the gate was definitely him. I mean, so was the the other blood, but like that one was just like because it the other blood was contaminated a little bit with the blood of the people he just murdered, and so it didn't test as easily. But this blood was was mostly OJ or pretty much all OJs. So yeah, they they start attacking the evidence, saying that that it wasn't possible. But it's
00:37:48 Simpson's blood was also identified on the Bronco's door panel, dashboard, and near the headlight switch. Simpson told police he'd last driven the Bronco before dark on the day of the murders. Crime scene reconstructionist Rod Englert.
00:38:05 When do you turn on your headlights? Daytime? Not really. So there was a transfer on that dash, which was blood consistent with O.J. Simpson's DNA. But even more remarkable was the console between the passenger seat and the driver's seat, and it had numerous transfer patterns. One was a hand pattern on the back far side of the console, on the console between the passenger seat and the console, which you can see distinctive finger marks, a transfer, and then there's another swipe. These transfers belong to, and it was blood consistent with, the DNA of Ron Goldman, and Nicole Simpson.
00:38:53 So it in his Bronco is his blood from him turning his headlights on with his cut-up finger, and rolling up his window with his cut up finger, and then wipe or touching the console with his with his bloody, you know, bloody mess of whatever he was wearing, and getting Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman's blood inside. This is all DNA tested inside his Bronco. So, what is the Jew that we were talking about? How does what? How does he explain this all away?
00:39:27 There was a lack of coordinated effort between the criminalists, the detectives, and the medical examiners. And you want to make sure that you keep everybody out of that crime scene until you have looked at it carefully, looking for the unexpected, making sure that you have seen absolutely everything before you allow all kinds of brass and you know supervisors to walk in and out, walk in and out, walk in and out, and begin to destroy the scene.
00:40:01 The defense set out to prove that evidence gathering went from bad to worse.
00:40:07 Well, the significance of the Simpson case lies in the way that crime scene was handled and its implications for the lab work.
00:40:15 Implications, he says.
00:40:17 And we're talking here about the way that the criminalists on the scene collected the evidence, the way it was initially processed in the laboratories, and the way the medical examiner's office dealt with that.
00:40:28 So what he argued was things that actually would not have changed whose DNA it was.
00:40:35 Was right exactly yeah yeah. So he was matter if there's evidence contamination. It's not going to lead. It would lead to something inconclusive. It it wouldn't lead to like oh yeah one in 8 billion or whatever. Right.
00:40:47 Well, and that's so and that's so because of that. Because the the police were saying like, look, the what you're arguing doesn't change whose DNA is is in the blood. You know, like it's it's clearly still O.J. Simpson's DNA.
00:41:04 Yeah,
00:41:05 murders did not occur in a sterile lab setting. There was contamination. There always has been, but they would lead you to believe that this somehow affected the outcome of this blood evidence. And the reality of it is, it did not. The fact of the matter is, if you're looking strictly at the DNA in this case, you could have collected all those blood samples and placed them out on Bundy Drive for a month, let the traffic run up and down over them, and then collect them. Is that going to contaminate them? Well, sure, it's going to contaminate them. Is that going to change the DNA properties? Is that going to make O.J. Simpson's DNA appear there? No, it's there or it's not there. It's as simple as that. Yeah,
00:41:47 it is as simple as that. And so, what did they, the Jew lawyers, do? They said it's a conspiracy.
00:41:54 Somebody played with this evidence
00:41:59 to a mostly black jury who does not understand DNA or science or how to read, and so basically that's that's literally what happened is he he because they also found I forgot about this they found O.J. sox in his house with Ron Goldman's blood on
00:42:18 it,
00:42:19 and so it's like so they they literally had to tell the jury that they had planted everything, and it was Mark Fuhrman who apparently said nigger 15 years before the trial in a locker room once. Like like that was their that was their evidence that that he then got a vial of O.J. blood and like went to town inside the Bronco while no one was looking, or
00:42:42 Mark Furman. Yeah, like, and
00:42:43 here's the funny thing: that that that what their theory actually was, what he would have had to have done, is he would have had to have shown up at the crime scene like right away before anyone else got there, scooped up Ron Goldman's blood, scooped up Nicole Simpson's blood, then rushed to O.J. house, squirted it all around all over. Oh, also scooped up the bloody glove, and then dropped the bloody glove behind his house. Squirted Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson's blood inside the Bronco, and no one was looking. Somehow already had a vial of O.J. Simpson's blood to put smear all over the inside of the Bronco, and oh, and also to go into his house and plant socks that also had Ron Goldman's blood, all because he hated niggers, and and and he must have been no, he must have known this was gonna maybe in fact maybe Mark Fuhrman did the murders. He hated black people so much. He his whole plan from start to finish was to frame O.J. because O.J. was this black superstar, and it just made him sick. It just made him sick seeing this black man on TV all the time. Did
00:43:55 they ever present a theory for how they got this vial of blood?
00:44:01 Well, yeah. So one of their theories was they're like, oh well, the blood on the gate has this chemical in it that's used in labs to preserve or stop blood from clotting, and well, that's true. All blood has that chemical in it, and so it it wasn't and it wasn't significant like a a higher percentage that would be out of character for just normal blood, but because again when the jury is a bunch of black people and you just give them a reason to think that something racist is happening, then that's all that's all that mattered, especially in the context, especially after a line of questioning like this,
00:44:41 you say on your oath that you have not addressed any black person as a nigger or spoken about black people as niggers in the past 10 years, Detective Furman.
00:44:51 That's what I'm saying, sir.
00:44:52 So that anyone who comes to this court and quotes you as using that word in dealing with African Americans would be a liar. They not detective. Yes,
00:45:01 they would.
00:45:01 All of them. Correct. All of them.
00:45:03 Oh yeah. Well, we found some little say you said nigger once, and now you've planted all this evidence and did this crazy hair-brained scheme to make sure OJ is guilty, and and so he he he got acquitted, and because this is what the jury looked like, and this is the problem.
00:45:23 Yeah, that one white guy Jewish.
00:45:25 It's it's like maybe one white guy.
00:45:28 123 yeah, and
00:45:30 two white chicks, and everyone else is brown or black. Like that's that's why people
00:45:37 should have stood their ground though. They they could have hung that jury.
00:45:40 Well, this is in LA, right? I really don't. I mean, it's probably white liberals, white liberal chicks. They're like, I, I hate racists, you know, like, and I, I don't know. I, I think there's been interviews with some of these people, you know, more recently, and some of them now think it's he's guilty, but it's just like, who fucking cares? The damage has been done.
00:46:01 Yeah, I mean,
00:46:03 it's it's so insane. So it just look. Even if you didn't have all this DNA evidence, we didn't have DNA evidence until like the 80s. Okay, the circumstantial evidence was through the roof. Like
00:46:16 oh, totally.
00:46:17 So it didn't it didn't. You could have convicted him without the DNA evidence, and so in a weird Jewy paradox, like in terms of like what these two fucking Jew lawyers do today, they essentially-I mean-and I guess in a matter of speaking, they did use DNA to exonerate someone, but in the most Jewy way, fucking possible by saying that, like, ah, it's it's all made up. It's it's oh, it's witchcraft. It's white people witchcraft. It's tricknology from the white man. You don't want to the white devil's DNA. You don't want to play with that, even though like right. I mean, they
00:46:54 they treated post conviction DNA in the Innocence Project as the gold standard for innocence, including touch DNA things like that, they they've exonerated all sorts of people on dubious DNA evidence,
00:47:08 right? So, just the fact that that that is where their their origin comes from, it's just it's just absurd, and you know everyone involved with that defense team is is a piece of shit. That's Alan Dershowitz, obviously Trump's
00:47:27 lawyer, Epstein's lawyer,
00:47:29 Epstein's lawyer. Yeah, yeah. So it's just it's just it's kind of horrendous, and and you know again this is just the DNA stuff. I could go on and on and on about the O.J. trial, it's it's so egregious that he was let off. But you know, it is what it is. So that's that's it's
00:47:48 interesting because they were not allowed allowed to discuss any of the LAPD planted everything theory, and then they weren't allowed to discuss what might have been contaminated. So in civil trials, you only have to get nine of 12, and you only have to show a preponderance of evidence, which is 50% or more. And so they couldn't they couldn't do any of this stuff. They were just limited to what to what actually happened, and they couldn't talk about lab mix ups or anything like that. They just had to testify about the blood and the bronco and the shoes and the glove and the socks, and of course the jury found him responsible. I think that he, that the award was like $33.5 million.
00:48:31 So there's something
00:48:32 there's something there. I mean, the circumstantial evidence is obviously more important than DNA evidence in this case. To the, I mean, it's not. I mean, the DNA evidence was, you know very he very obviously did
00:48:44 right. So it just goes to show though that that these people don't really give a fuck about innocence, not at all.
00:48:53 No, so they have had some ethics concerns too. These guys, no surprise there. So in 2015, there was an anonymous complaint that was filed with the New York Joint Commission on Public Ethics, and this has been widely discredited because it was an anonymous sort source.
00:49:11 But the complainant was identified as a crime lab employee, which I think gives it credibility. It's not just like any guy that filed this. So what he said was that there was a conflict of interest that that both of these guys, both these Jews, that they stood to gain financially, personally, and through the Innocence Project, through and what he talks about here is hair evidence through expanding reviews of microscopic hair comparison cases and those exonerations and subsequent civil recoveries-that the percentage of those, obviously, there's a financial incentive.
00:49:47 The percentage of those flows into their organization, allows them to exonerate more people, allows them to take on more ridiculous cases, and personally enriches them. So, like, I haven't seen any evidence that they have. A real duty to the science behind DNA, which is a it's a robust science. Like not all of it's bullshit. Touch DNA, I think, has some major problems, but DNA evidence it's it's a strong presence for conviction for a reason.
00:50:16 Like you don't need it. Most cases are circumstantial, but it stands to reason that they would personally enrich themselves based on changing some of the the flimsier elements of of hair science and these microscopic elements and some of the DNA stuff. And it seems as though they have done that.
00:50:36 So were they well, like funding like a study to try to make it seem more reliable the the hair DNA stuff, so they could use. They were placing
00:50:46 evidence on studies. I don't know if they were funding any, but they were placing trying to make studies that didn't have good scientific foundation, a good scientific foundation, to seem like they were more important scientific breakthroughs in terms of the the hair evidence, so they could then cite those studies
00:51:05 when they went to court and be like, "Oh, look, this according to this study, this nig didn't murder that white lady.
00:51:12 Right, right, right, exactly. And I'm sure they've done that with DNA evidence, although this complaint is specifically about the hair.
00:51:20 Right. Interesting.
00:51:23 No surprise there. They can't stop themselves, can they?
00:51:28 Right. So now here is a a clip of them. They decide that we're gonna we're gonna start the Innocence Project, and not everyone likes it, but we're the tough Jews. That look at us. Look at that. I'm with a black man. Sure, I'm helping a black man.
00:51:44 No, we talk about how we get these people out of jail and we exonerate them. You know, the frankly, the last 20 years, not everybody's so happy about that. You know, when you go into a particular jurisdiction, you know, the prosecutors can be angry at you. The police can be angry at you. You know they can stir up all kinds of stuff in the press. This can be there's a lot of blowback, and so you really have to have a strong partner that you trust completely and you know is going to get the job done. Yeah,
00:52:19 yeah. Hi, buddy. Let us how he he uncomfortably touches himself when he says strong partner.
00:52:30 To trust completely, and you know what's going to trust completely. I
00:52:33 have to I have to touch myself when when he says trust completely. That's me. Oh, I
00:52:40 did want to mention a few more things about this this Innocence Project and the DNA specifically. So, so for those of you that don't know, touch DNA and contamination. So, tiny amounts of DNA are transmitted every time you touch something, like a handshake or lab handling. So there, that the person was that a prosecutor that said that, or that was talking about how all DNA is contaminated to some degree. That's absolutely true.
00:53:07 Yeah, he was with the LAPD, I think.
00:53:09 But something that Innocence Project does is they say that the absence of someone's DNA at the scene, a defendant's DNA, is consistent with innocence. But that's not necessarily true. Touch DNA is totally erratic. Sometimes you leave it. Sometimes you don't. Sometimes it's massively degraded. Sometimes you can't do anything about it. And it's it's not really a way to convict somebody or to prove somebody's innocence. That's why I take such term such a an issue with this term exonerate because they they almost never exonerate anybody. They just get they they create enough doubt,
00:53:40 right? Yeah, create enough doubt to where they they can get a judge or a usually a Jewish judge or a jury to
00:53:47 yeah exactly throw down. And then this one, Barry Scheck himself has warned about the unreliable DNA methods in some labs, and this of course is what he did in the O.J. Simpson trial. But a lot of crime scene samples are so small that they have to be mixed with reagents, and then interpreting them it requires the assessment of some kind of lab personnel. So there's like this big human factor because I've seen I've seen cases where they're doing DNA on DNA samples from like 50 years ago.
00:54:19 That's like a pinprick of like the tiniest possible amount of blood that you can imagine. I mean, you can't test that. You have to mix it with something else, and they still get convictions on those things. But but you know, you you saw what he just said. He's like, this is not reliable. Now it is reliable. It is reliable, but that is not what the Innocence Project does. That's not the kind of DNA case that they typically take. So I don't know. I mean, exclusion of DNA. It's not. It's not exonerating. I mean, finding another person's DNA can support a claim, and we saw this with the Central Park Five that someone else has left semen or left blood or whatever.
00:55:00 But there's always the chance that there are multiple actors, or there was no sexual component, or that the defendant could have been present without without depositing any DNA, which happens all the time. I mean, people people commit crimes and get away with them all the time because they used a condom, because they were wearing gloves, because they were very very careful, or just because they got really lucky. So this doesn't really say anything about the quality of the cases that the Innocence Project takes, which we'll talk about that in in a few minutes.
00:55:30 All right. Should we talk
00:55:30 about this awful Robert Earl Hayes case?
00:55:35 Do you want to talk? Or was was there another one we wanted to cover first? Or oh no, that's afterwards. Okay. Yeah. So yeah, let's talk about. Let me get a picture of him. I thought I had one. Robert, this guy,
00:55:48 he's got such a dumb face, like dumb 70 IQ face. He's like derpy. So he was a groomer at the Pampano Harness Trail, groomer,
00:56:02 you say?
00:56:03 He was a groomer, yeah.
00:56:05 Like professionally, though. Yeah,
00:56:08 he he he was a professional groomer of horses to the extent that this guy could be a professional at anything. And there was this woman there, and he was harassing her. He was seen with her before she was killed, and she was also a groomer at the same place, so she was days from going home, and she was found dead in her dorm room because they put up the groomers in dorm rooms in February 1990.
00:56:32 She was raped. She was strangled. So the Innocence Project. So he was convicted. He was sentenced to death in 1991, and then he was acquitted at a 1997 retrial. After, and this was early. Yeah, there he is. Ooh, that guy is so black. It's just incredible. That's the picture that they use. Like they come on, they couldn't lighten him up like Trayvon Martin a little bit.
00:56:55 This is before that technology existed.
00:56:58 I know, right? So in 1997, there was a retrial after they had retested some of the early DNA evidence. Now, what he said was that he had had. This reminds me of Rodney Reed. He said that like he had consensual sex with her, and based on the accounts from her friends and family, like there is no way that this chick is banging a random black eye, not going to happen. She sounded like she was really straight laced, and this was not her jam. But his sperm was found from a vaginal swab, and she had hair in her hand.
00:57:33 And so this is another one of the hair evidence cases. So what happened was the Innocence Project wanted to retest the old evidence, and the goal was kind of to strengthen the claim that he was innocent. And the lab chose to run the hair evidence and the vaginal swab.
00:57:53 Of course, the vaginal swab came back, and and that was him. But he had already said that he banged her, so they were like, "Oh, it's fine. And then they discovered that the hair that was in her own hand was her own hair, and they used this as a way to introduce doubt. And they argued that he had admitted consensual sex with her, and that this was expected. And yeah, it it actually supported the original accusation that he had raped her, but he couldn't be retried in Florida because he's been acquitted. Another thing they based on this new DNA evidence.
00:58:28 Another thing they they did with the hair though is they tried to pin it on some other. There was a white guy that worked at the track also. Yeah, yeah. Who had yeah? He had long hair that was like a similar color, and they're like, "Oh, like the lawyer gets him on the stand, and she's like, 'Oh, so is your was your hair the same color and length that it is now? And his hair was like kind of short, and he was like, 'Yeah, I think so.
00:58:53 And she's like, 'Really? That's weird, because I have a picture right here of you having long hair at the track, and the guy's like, oh, I guess it was long back then. Yeah, and they're like, I rest my case. It was the white guy, you know, and that was enough, right? That was enough doubt. It
00:59:11 was enough, yeah. So this trick or rape and murder was in 1990. So when this was discovered, when when they were looking at him for this murder, they looked back and they were like, "Well, we had that suspicious suicide three years ago, and this was the same horse groomer, but it was in upstate New York, and he had worked also with her. So she was found in her dorm room.
00:59:34 She had an extension cord around her neck and stab and slash wounds, but it was ruled a suicide because she had had a suicide attempt when she was a teenager, and so they didn't even look into it. Like she was in a burned-out apartment, her her throat was slashed.
00:59:49 He had obviously staged the suicide, but after that, after the murder of Pamela, they went back and they were like, "Ooh! And so they exhumed her body, her. Highway bone was broken, and they were like, "Okay, we're gonna we're gonna rule this a homicide now. And he pled guilty in 2004 to manslaughter, burglary, attempted arson. He admitted he attacked her, staged a hanging, tried to set a fire, and he was sentenced to 15 to 45 years for that. Yeah, so so eventually he got he he was in prison, but it wasn't for the original Raven Murder, which he obviously obviously yes, yes, and the Innocence Project calls him exonerated.
01:00:31 Yeah, so they they say he was exonerated, and in fact they made a movie in 2005 with a star studded cast, including Susan Sarandon among and well Denny Glover and I forget the names of these other guys, but recognize them. And it's it's called The Exonerated, and it was start off as a off-Broadway play.
01:00:57 Freeman, no,
01:00:58 no, it's it's the it's the he's the nig that's always like I'm a badass cop, or sometimes I'm a badass like jewel thief, or I'm a badass you know he's he's the I'm a badass black man, but he's just like a character actor. I don't I don't forget like who what his name is, and then like the old white guy at the top, he's always like I'm the old corrupt guy or something, or sometimes a politician. But I'm always up to no good. So they had they had this off Broadway play, and it was like really killing it, I guess, with the retard New York audience. And so they decided we're going to make it into a movie. I know just the Jew to do it. This Jew,
01:01:39 the
01:01:42 Jew. Jew to ever Jew a Jew, and there you go, mr. Balaban, whose parental grandparents immigrated from Moldova, Ukraine, to Chicago when when when everybody around the turn of the century, so yes, the the child of and well grandchild, I guess, of Eastern European Jews who came to America around the turn of the fucking century on both sides of his family. His mother's family came from Germany, Russia, and Romania.
01:02:19 So yeah, it's just like it was just like that's when that's when we lost the country 100% Was the turn of the century wave of Jews just totally fucked us for for all of time and eternity. Anyway, so I was like, well, it's kind of funny because in 2005, in fact, the the the funny the funniest part about this is, literally, it was it was I think two days before the release of this movie. One of the the cases they feature in it was when he actually pled guilty to that second murder.
01:02:58 Yeah,
01:02:58 and so it was like right before they're about to release this movie saying he's innocent, they like literally two days. They they get him for this other murder, and so immediately it's it's tainted. They played it on court TV. It was it was oddly well received. So this is the New York Times says jaw-dropping, an intense, deeply affecting new play. This is Barry Scheck himself says seeing the exonerated significantly affected Governor Ryan of Illinois' decision to commute all of the existing death row sentences to life in prison. So it had an impact, right? And then we had Senator Patrick Leahy. Actually, didn't he like murder someone, like an intern?
01:03:49 Oh, I don't know. Probably. I
01:03:51 I don't let let me double check that. I feel like he's involved in something. Let me look that up here real quick. Or actually, can you look that up? I'll read. I'll read his quote here. What is his name? Senator Patrick Leahy, which is L-E-A-H-Y. I I know there's something about him. I just it's been a long time because this was well. I mean, he hasn't been a senator for 20 years or so.
01:04:17 The Exonerated is brilliantly conceived, staged, and acted, but its soul-scouring and heart-wrenching power comes by opening a window onto the broken system, whose mistakes ripple out to roil countless lives, and whose score is told in life and death. That's like all right, dude.
01:04:41 Settle down, and then we had Janet Reno, Attorney General, said, "What has been done through this play is one of the most extraordinary events I have ever seen, and it will do more to promote justice than any literary effect." I have ever seen. So yeah, you think this is like a big thing? It's a big deal. Convincing people, very powerful, very influential people, that we're apparently you know putting all these innocent people in jail. And I thought, well, this this will be easy to find on the internet. Oh, what? It's you can't watch it on Prime.
01:05:24 Oh, yeah. You can't watch it anywhere. Oh, look, it's it's not on iTunes anymore. It's not on any of the streaming services. It's it has been disappeared completely from the internet, except for we got it here. We got it here, Folks, so we're going to see perhaps why they have scrubbed it from from so many streaming services. Now that we know what we know about mr. Hayes, at minimum having raped and murdered two white women, and one in one case, exonerated, and it's this is the case the the one where he was exonerated is the one they discuss in this. Well, it's it's a play, but it's on video, I guess, so it's a movie too.
01:06:13 But the we'll get to see. Yeah, I don't know, maybe why it's a bad look these days.
01:06:20 Roberto Hayes, this is my wife,
01:06:22 Judge Hayes.
01:06:23 Now, at the time that all this happened, I was working around the racetrack taking care of the horses, you know. And at this racetrack, this white girl she gets raped and killed, and you know she be dating the black guys. And when she got killed, they asked me if I ever had sex with the girl, I told them, "Yeah, and they said, "Well, were you having sex with her that night? I said, "No, and then they said, "Why does she like hanging out on the black side of the track? Man, I don't know why she like hanging out back there. Hell, I guess we more fun.
01:06:56 By the way, that's not me with AI. That was that's how it is. That that's really what they did. This is
01:07:03 indecipherable from your AI videos.
01:07:05 They this is this is real. Ah, I said yeah. She liked the dark meat, if you know what I mean. And like the the wife's like uh huh, she don't she don't like the brothers. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like holy shit, dude. This is pretty fucking retarded, and he goes on. It's it was the fucking racist cops.
01:07:30 That's why. And in fact, if the roles were, this is the most maddening part of of this, is they start talking like, oh, if a Wattman had done this, they would have been off, no problem, because we all know that's true, right? Like, yeah, that it's it's the black people are always being falsely accused of of hurting white people. Well, the white people run free.
01:07:54 But this girl, she got killed, and the cops come to my job the next morning. They said, "You got to talk to you. I said, "Okay. I went down to the police station. They kept on saying, "We know what happened. We know you asked her for a date. She hit you, and you hit her back. You didn't mean to hit her that hard. They just came right after me. This white girl, me and she had dated, and you know people around here don't like that too much. And in my first trial, in my first trial, hell, I knew I was going to prison. I had 11 whites and one black on that jury.
01:08:20 Do you think? Seriously, now be honest. If the roles had been reversed, if it had been a black woman and a white man, it would have been like that,
01:08:27 right, baby? Because let's go to another high-profile case in that.
01:08:30 So, the funny thing is, these obviously that's not actually him, but they base it on like interviews they did with him, so they're trying to like mimic like how he actually was. So then, as if like they're just either they're laughing at us or they just have no self awareness at all, they bring up OJ in like the fucking weirdest way.
01:08:57 Yeah. Hey,
01:08:58 now in both y'all hearts, now be honest with me. Within y'all hearts, do you really think O.J. committed that crime?
01:09:06 No, but O.J. Okay, I'm black and I still think he guilty. I'm sorry. I don't care what they say. If the DNA put you there, O.J. you guilty.
01:09:14 Well, the DNA put your husband there. You dumb fucking negress. So it's just it's just like what the fuck is this supposed to be? And then the you know they go on about how all white people are racist or at least enough of them are.
01:09:31 I might as well be sitting here wearing a sign that says "Arrest me, I'm black.
01:09:35 There's always something. I mean, it's not all police officers. It's not all white people. Right. But it's those few that make the rest of them look so bad. Yeah,
01:09:42 but I mean, hypothetically speaking, now, if me and a white woman was to have an altercation, the cop gon' say, "Well, it's okay for her, but for me, all she got to say is, 'Oh, he didn't touch my breast, he didn't touch my booty, and that go to wild.
01:09:57 Oh no, yeah, no, it hasn't been like that." Since 1920, okay, when everything was awesome, still, when if a white lady was like, he done touched my breast, like that guy was hanging from a lamp post by by 8o'clock that night, you know the good old days, yeah, he was in the fucking roof hole, so no, it's not like that, and it hasn't been like that for 100 fucking years, okay, that's when things were great and awesome.
01:10:23 Thanks for reminding us of how how much we've lost since letting you fucking little monsters run wild in our society. So that yeah, they they talk about how you know the the racist cops. You know they have they always have it in for the black man, and cops always assume it's black people, and then then of course this is kind of funny, unintentionally, like all of it. They talk about I think this is let me see what clip number is this 123 number five. Oh no, we'll get to the we're almost there. So he says cops always they're always worried about white people, never black people.
01:11:03 One night, me and a white guy, we were sitting at a gas station. We were just sitting there talking, and a white cop come back around to talk to us. And he didn't ask me if I was having a problem. Hell, he asked the white guy was he having a problem?
01:11:16 You mean the white guy was talking to a a double homicide rapist, and the cop was like, "You, you okay, sir? I just get a bad vibe from this nigger. I, I just want to make sure you're okay. I mean, I don't, I don't personally know that he's killed and raped to death, you know, two white women. But I, you know, I'm kind of getting that vibe.
01:11:35 Yeah,
01:11:35 yeah, I don't know. So anyway, the next clip is the the the one that I I thought that, or that it was extra funny, because they say that. Oh no, still not this one. Damn it! One more. It's just another one of these like white people raise this one. But there's a lot of white folks out there now that make me upset. But I'm not gonna go and call them crackers and go and get my cousins and all that.
01:11:58 Go get your cousin. Your cousin crazy.
01:12:01 Your cousin crazy. Who wrote this dialog? Anyway, so this is the clip I was looking for. That it it's unintentionally funny because that I and honestly didn't even really hit me until I watched this clip. Like the irony of this because it's something that they used to say all the time, and and it's that and it's it's very Jewish if you think about it because they're inverting the truth and what they say in this in this clip here is that something that you often heard in the '90s and that is racism is passed down from generation to generation but they it's by environment you're teaching your kids to be racist when the exact opposite is true, it's the black behavior is actually passed down genetically, generation to generation, and so it's just like I was like, oh, that's so Jewish when I think about it.
01:12:53 Yes, ma'am, Miss Daisy. But Robert, okay, in my opinion, you ain't ever gonna get rid of it, right? My father taught me that things are passed down from generation to generation, and if the older generation teaches younger generation, it ain't going away.
01:13:07 No, actually, black behavior ain't never gonna go away.
01:13:11 Yeah,
01:13:12 because your grandpa passed on his genes to your father, who passed them on to you, which is why you sound like you're a fucking monkey when you talk? Okay, so that's that's the fucking problem here. So they do that. Then he talks about like the the horrible time he had a horrible time in fucking prison, and you would think that they'd be able to come up with some good horror stories, right? Like this is, yeah, it's prison, right? You'd think like, oh, they're probably gonna talk about how he got raped or
01:13:45 prison rape, yeah,
01:13:46 or something like that. Now, this is the big, this is his big whiny bitch story about like, he's a guard spit on my tea once.
01:13:53 This officer was harassing my neighbor, and I was a witness, and the other inmate he wanted to write the office up. He asked me, "Hey, Robert, would you sign this statement? I said I told him, yeah, yeah, man. But a couple days later, this officer comes back to work, and something just told me to pay attention to him. And sure enough, man, this officer-hell, he done read that statement. He gonna get back at me. He gonna in my tea, and I seen him spit off in my tea, so I said, "Now, why would you do that? Do what? I didn't do that. Uh-uh. Hold on here. I'm gonna prove it to you. And I went and got me a piece of toilet paper, twisted it up, and put it directly on top of that tea. And I went round it, and I said, "Now what Is that? You can have my tea. You can take this shit back, motherfucker.
01:14:49 It's like what?
01:14:52 A prison guard was getting him a cup of tea.
01:14:54 Yeah, I'm just kind of like confused by the whole scenario because I don't think I've ever seen a black person drink a cup of. You know what I mean? Like, like I'm just trying to picture. Like, what kind of prison is this? They're like, "Oh, it's tea time. Go around. Stop, stopping at the blocks, everybody. It's time for tea. Who's got the crumpets? It's just like, what the fuck is? Anyway, that was his. That was his. Yeah, I know. It's like, have you gone to a fast food restaurant? I'm sure worse things have happened at McDonald's. Okay, so like his big horrible story is a prison or a prison guard spit on his tea once. It's like, okay, all right, all right, buddy. Watch,
01:15:35 man, it's prison.
01:15:36 So then he talks about, and again, by this time, by the time this airs, we already know. We already know. Everyone knows. But he starts talking about how he got off because of the stupid hair story.
01:15:48 Well, see, before I went to prison, I had a dream about prison. I seen death row. Oh,
01:15:53 by the way, this is also like it's funny because it's it's it's so '90s magic Negro dream, you know. Like it's funny. Candace Owens is also kind of resurrecting this, I guess. Like I had a dream, and like for some reason, white people love it when black people have a dream about something. Like it's almost like they get excited because that that implies there's like more consciousness there than they previously,
01:16:18 or that like there's divine intervention and they're they're spiritual.
01:16:23 Yeah, it's like, oh wait, you're not just always reacting to stimuli. I mean, there's like something going on when you sleep in your head. Oh, it must be God then, because I could have sworn by by observing your behavior that you're just an automaton, you know, full of rage and violence, programmed to kill. But yeah, this this kind of indicates it's almost like the Turing test, you know. It's like you're you're a human, you know. Do do AIs dream? But anyway, so I he starts off like I had this dream about prison, and all all the white liberals in the audience like, oh, tell me more, tell me more about this dream.
01:16:57 I mean, I seen the inside, and I seen myself get out, and because of that dream, I always said I knew I was gonna get a new trial.
01:17:05 Now you know, Robert, if you lose, you can go back to death row.
01:17:08 And I said, well, now according to this here dream, I'm gonna go free. And she says,
01:17:14 you gonna put all your trust in a dream?
01:17:16 And I said, yep. My lawyers have found the record that said that in the girl's hands when she died was some white people's hair, I mean red hair, 16 inches long. And so my lawyer, she found out the cops had that hair. I mean she found the guy. He got up, testified at my appeal. So my lawyer asked him,
01:17:33 back in 1990, what color was your hair and how long was it?
01:17:37 Now and by then he had short hair, you know. And he says
01:17:39 my hair was the same color and length back then as it is now.
01:17:42 And my lawyer asked,
01:17:43 "Are you sure?
01:17:45 Of course, I'm sure.
01:17:46 So my lawyer, she pulls out this envelope and she says,
01:17:48 "Again in 1990. Do you remember having your picture taken near a racetrack?
01:17:53 Uh, yeah.
01:17:55 And then she took that big old photograph picture out and showed it to him. And there he was. His hair was red and brown and 16 inches long on the picture. Okay. It
01:18:10 wasn't his hair. It doesn't matter.
01:18:12 I know. The guy.
01:18:14 He just can't. He's just a straight guy that can't remember when he's just like I don't
01:18:18 know. Was it long or something? So they they talk about how like you know poor you know that that was the that was the thing that exonerated him was the stupid hair and now that he's released because of this when when they were filming this he was he was released they they interviewed his wife to talk about well what's he like now that he's been to prison? And it's so funny because it's like I listen to this and I'm like, no, no, this is not him being mentally affected by prison in a way that's causing weird behaviors. This is him using having been to prison as an excuse to cheat on his wife.
01:19:00 I've been out now three and a half years, going on four, and we got married what?
01:19:05 Two years.
01:19:06 Right.
01:19:06 About two
01:19:07 years. And she be wanting me to come home, you know, at night. And I don't want to come home, you know, man. I want to stay out now, cause if I come home now, Jack, it just makes me feel like I'm still locked up.
01:19:22 It's like, what? You just tell your wife, I don't want to come home at night because that's like prison. So
01:19:28 yeah, really, being married, it's way worse.
01:19:31 Well, well, it's just like, can you imagine that? Like, you're like, hey, how come you didn't come home last night? Don't talk about coming home. I was in prison. Why is there lipstick in here? I was, I was in prison, and like it's it's they it's the same thing with the next thing. They're like she's like, yeah, it's weird. Like he always he always acts all jumpy when I walk in the room, like he's up to something because of prison.
01:19:55 Yeah, yep.
01:19:57 And you know, man, that'd be a lot of times when she go to the. So she had to knock on the door to let me know she coming in.
01:20:02 Yeah, 'cause he jumps. When I first moved in, I just be walking in and walking out, and he just jumps up, cause he just in that mode,
01:20:12 like he's up to something. You mean? Like he's just like, ah, hey, hey, honey, a prison. Yeah, really. I wasn't, I wasn't doing anything. Just prison. So you know he's what an
01:20:25 excellent excuse. Do whatever you want.
01:20:27 Like just well, I you know I'm sorry. Sorry, sir. I'm sorry. I'm I'm I didn't go to work yesterday. See, in prison they made us work, and so it just reminds me of prison when I when I and I just couldn't I just couldn't do it, sir. So yeah, it's like everything is prison, and then he, and then this funny little bit, this fucking 70 IQ nig's like, you know, if they hadn't sent me to prison, I I could have been a millionaire.
01:20:53 You know, you can't really put your thoughts on what you could have lost or what you have lost. Hell, I said I could have been a millionaire. No, could have been a police chief. No, could have been a famous black horse trainer. And they won't even give him his
01:21:04 license back.
01:21:05 Right, Trotten Association won't even give him a racing license back.
01:21:07 Can you believe that?
01:21:08 Now I went to the county, passed my test with flying colors. They asked me if I ever been convicted of a crime. Hell, I put down on the application no, because Supreme Court they overturned it. Well, they wrote me back and told me I lied.
01:21:23 Based,
01:21:24 you did lie.
01:21:25 Yeah, because you were convicted. You were
01:21:27 convicted.
01:21:28 I mean, I was technicality, but still, like based. I'm glad they did that. So you know, he's like, ah, they're fucking me over now. I can't can't go be a famous millionaire horse trainer now, like I like I was gonna be. That was my destiny. Yeah, maybe you could
01:21:44 have been if you didn't murder two white women. Also, have you ever heard of a horse trainer or groomer that's famous ever,
01:21:51 or black for that matter? Yeah, but I
01:21:53 can't name even a white one. Okay.
01:21:55 No. So that then, of course, he says that he was allowed to get a gun, which is a little scary.
01:22:02 Tell him what you told your cousin.
01:22:03 Yeah, so I told my cousin. I said, "Well, watch. I can go to a gun shop around here. I'm gonna see if they gon' deny me. Well, I went and got that gun, but the racing commission wouldn't give him a racing license back. I mean, I can legally get a gun, but I can't get a license to drive a horse.
01:22:19 He can't do something he likes to do
01:22:21 raping. Can
01:22:22 he do something? Oh no!
01:22:24 I likes raping. And then, of course, the best part about this is because they knew what was going on. See, the way this thing was structured, he wasn't the only person featured. We just watched only clips from him. They had other actors portraying other people, and then at the end of this little you know play sit down thing where they tell their story, they would show the actor for a second, and then be like, "Oh, this actor was actually this guy who's a real person. Look at him, and the person be like, "My name is you know Johnny Mc Innocent, and I'm I didn't do it. And then they'd go on to like the next person, and then they get to this guy, and it was just this is hilarious.
01:23:06 And
01:23:17 then for those that can't read that, Robert is currently in jail pending a resolution of an unrelated case. Unrelated, huh? No, actually, exactly related. DNA evidence recovered from the victim's body does not match Robert's DNA. Well, here's the thing: it does actually, and the Innocence Project retested it again in I think 2020, and it confirmed that it that it was actually his, so this fuck yeah, so this fucking like atrocity that that you just were subjected to, that's this this is the same thing that Janet Reno was saying was the best literary expression that she had ever been witness to in her entire life, in terms of you know showing everyone how the black man's being held down by the system, you know the same Genent Reno that was very well had a hand in the Waco situation and all that fun stuff. So anyway, yeah, it's just a it's just a fucking atrocity. This this whole Innocence Project, and of course, there's other cases that we could get into.
01:24:25 Yeah, we should talk about those. But did you know this? Okay, what they always say, supporters say that it's it's prison, like this guy, trauma, the lack of support that that drive later. It's the prison experience that drives reoffenses. But out of exonerees, nearly 40% have a post-exoneration conviction,
01:24:43 right? That
01:24:44 that is a wild statistic to me, because you think if you were actually innocent, you'd be like, "Oh, I am never ever. I will not even shoplift because I never want to go back there. And I and also I want my character to be. Unimpeachable because I just got out of this awful thing, and now people know that I that I'm innocent and that I'm a good person and I abide by the law. Like the, so it's an insane argument to me that that prison would cause reoffense.
01:25:14 Well, and also if even if if it does, it's more proof that we should just be fucking putting these people in a pit, like we just be burnt,
01:25:23 just burning them up. Like there's no reason. Like why are we keeping this guy alive in a prison somewhere for you know infinity years? Like what? Why? What's what? What good does that do anybody? And it's not
01:25:37 to say that I don't hate the police or they're never incompetent. Like if they would have investigated this, obviously not a suicide as a homicide. Ooh, her throat. She must have slit her own throat and then hung herself and then started her apartment on fire. If they would have investigated that as a homicide, it immediately would have led led to Hayes, and then he wouldn't have committed the subsequent murder. So it's like, like what are you people doing? What are you people? She had one suicide attempt when she was like 15. She was in her 30s.
01:26:06 Well, yeah, and other women that worked there said he was always trying to harass them. Harasser, yeah. And he was like, you know, like everyone knew it was him, but but the cops apparently,
01:26:15 by his own account later, because he did confess, he said that he was on crack and he went into her apartment and just tried to grab money off of her fridge, and she slapped his hand away, and he said he punched her in the face, but she was strangled and raped. So I, I, I seriously doubt that. But that was his cover story. I was on crack, and I tried to rob her.
01:26:34 Yeah, it's like okay, and we're keeping you alive. Why exactly? Why? Why? What is the purpose of paying for his room and board for several decades.
01:26:44 Yeah, yeah. But this is a widespread problem with the Innocence Project. We have a few other cases that we're just going to mention briefly. So Maurice Caldwell, this is oh my gosh. So he was convicted in 1991 of a 1990 San Francisco murder, and this was investigated. There were sworn confessions. Is this Marit Funkes? Is that how you say this name? Funches?
01:27:08 Funkes? Funches.
01:27:10 Funchez. I don't. I don't even know how to say this.
01:27:12 Funches.
01:27:14 Yeah, really. That he and another man committed the crime, and Caldwell was not involved, and this secured a new trial grant, so the charges were dismissed in this new trial, and he got $8 million. He got an $8 million settlement. So later, Fionkes says that he lies about Caldwell's non-involvement. Why? Why would he lie about this? Because he thought he was going to get some of this settlement money, and to make things worse, there was a romantic and sexual relationship that was developed between the lawyer and wait, was it was it was it? I think
01:27:47 it
01:27:48 was Maurice. Ah, and Maurice. I thought for some reason that it was. It was. I think it was.
01:27:52 If I I might be remembering that wrong, but yeah, that's how I read it.
01:27:57 So that there was a state bar investigation. Yeah, great state bar investigation, and he obviously had done it. I mean, this is something the Innocence Project that they'll point to this as an exoneration, but he wasn't exonerated on DNA evidence. It was just one person that that later went back on on their testimony.
01:28:19 Yeah, because he said that he he was basically bribed, and then they they didn't follow through because they said that you know he would some of the settlement money that would that he would get for getting up for for being falsely imprisoned would go to that guy and he never got the money. So he was like, not only did he do it, he was fucking the lawyer.
01:28:39 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, of course, we have the case of Stephen Avery, and I don't want to rehash this because it pains me to say to say this, but Daily Wire actually did an excellent piece on making a murderer. Stephen Avery. What's messed up about this is that Stephen Avery was exonerated through DNA evidence for the initial crime, so he spent 18 years in prison for this sexual assault, and they they proved his innocence. It was definitely another guy. The other rapist was identified, but two years after that, he was arrested for the murder of photographer Teresa Halbach, and he was convicted of the murder. Now there is a lot of evidence that he was guilty of this murder, and before before the sexual assault of the first woman, he had a history of killing cats, of stalking people, of violence towards women. The accounts from his ex-wife are crazy. Yeah, he ran his cousin
01:29:34 off the road, held her at gunpoint, and kidnapped her.
01:29:37 Yes, exactly. Yeah, and so they took this incredible story of somebody that that was he was part of the .02 percent for the initial crime, but did commit a subsequent murder because he was probably you know some kind of serial killer in the making to try to disconnect these crimes, but you know or try to connect these crimes when they. Yeah, I'm sorry.
01:30:00 If you throw a cat in a fire, you you should be thrown in a fire.
01:30:05 Yeah, I mean
01:30:06 that that like when I was watching that that making of a murderer thing, I was just like, this guy's obviously like a psychopath and needs to be killed.
01:30:13 Yeah. So I mean,
01:30:15 like we don't need 70 IQ psychopaths running around, and and honestly, this is the kind of thing where I don't even think it was police incompetence. I think cops were kind of thinking along the same lines, just like you know what, fuck this guy, you know, fuck this guy. Well, I'm okay with like you know sometimes if we if we had if we had the right kind of society, there would be a time and a place for planting evidence, that's all I'm saying. Okay, that's all I'm saying.
01:30:44 Saying that evidence is is never planted. When I hear it in a case, I'm like because it's incredibly rare. But I think it definitely happened in the Stephen Avery case. But he also did it, and I think that it happened in the Amanda Knox case, and I don't think she did it. Yeah, we also have this case of Shorn Thomas. this one's really interesting. So he was convicted of a 1990 murder in Philadelphia. He was 16. He spent 24 years in prison. He was fully exonerated in 2017 with the Innocence Project, and he got a $4 million settlement.
01:31:18 So his subsequent crime, this was in January 2023, he shot and killed a man over a $1,200 drug debt, and he pled guilty to third degree murder and conspiracy. Now, they this is another case that they say was a straight up exoneration, but there's no DNA that excluded him from the original crime. Right, the state's theory was that there was this other car, and so it was just a witness misidentification issue. But it doesn't preclude him from committing the crime. He almost certainly committed the initial crime, and and then he was let out of jail, and then committed a subsequent murder. So, do you want to talk about about Scott Peterson? I got to mute my microphone. My dog's barking.
01:32:05 So Scott Peterson, for those who don't remember that, that was a big deal back in the 90s. Man killed his pregnant wife because he was having an affair, and I don't know. I thought that was reasonable. Let me see if I get a picture of him. Scott Peterson. There he is. This is a good one. Let me get this image up here. Sorry, guys. I, I apparently forgot to get a couple pictures up today, so I'm like downloading them and loading them as I go here. So there's there's Scott Peterson. So hold on, I just close the notes. Ah, it's a disaster all of a sudden.
01:32:48 But he's so handsome. Scott Peterson, so stupid. The Innocence Project inexplicably took this case because there's no DNA evidence, but it doesn't really it doesn't really matter. I mean, there was motive. I know I always talk about how motive does not equal conviction, but there was major motive here. His wife was pregnant. He didn't want the baby. He was having an affair. He said he was fishing in San Francisco Bay.
01:33:08 Her body and the baby washed up later near where he said it was launched. He lied to the police about an affair. There was a hair consistent with Lacy's in pliers on his boat. Pliers, concrete debris in the boat matched the homemade anchors, and and the Innocence Project took this because the case was circumstantial. And I think this is a really important point because I think people are really into true crime and you know Dateline and all these people. They they cherry pick cases with DNA evidence because
01:33:38 yeah,
01:33:39 there's less ambiguity, you know, because and it gives the impression that
01:33:42 DNA is just like flying off of everybody all the time, and like leaving a trail everywhere.
01:33:48 But the truth of the matter is that most cases are circumstantial, and until the advent of DNA technology, all cases were circumstantial, and they were they were doing convictions back in the day, and they were still getting most of the people that committed the crimes. They were getting the right perps. So people act like circumstantial evidence is irrelevant, but it really is the breadth of any given criminal investigation. DNA evidence is is a nice to have, and sometimes it can you know make it a lot easier for a jury to live with themselves, especially in death penalty cases. But almost all cases are circumstantial.
01:34:27 Absolutely, I mean that's just the way that it is. And you know, it's it's it's it has it's not just those true crime shows. It's also the you know the CSI shows, like all the fictional shows that make people give people like this false impression that the cops are a bunch of like science whizzes that have like you know basically Star Trek level technology.
01:34:50 They can find you know the the the the footprint of of you know of anybody in some database somewhere, and it's it's just. Simply not true. I mean, there's there's a lot of cases where it they don't even have a body. You know, they don't even have a murder weapon. They don't know where the murder even took place. There's just like a missing chick, and the husband had like a big insurance policy taken out right before she went missing, and and he's said some suspicious shit, and that will still go to trial. And if you can convince the jury that yeah, this guy fucking did it, yeah, that you you'll get a conviction. And what's the
01:35:30 alternative? Like we're not supposed to convict people with even substantial evidence because there's no DNA evidence because 0.02 percent of convicts are wrongfully convicted. We still have to pursue justice, like we obviously have to do that. Right. So it's an imperfect system, obviously, and eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable. But it still has to be
01:35:53 done. Absolutely.
01:35:55 Oh, okay. Patrick Leahy. I just typed in Patrick Leahy's scandal. His most notable controversy involves resigning from the Senate Intelligence Committee in 1987 after leaking an unclassified draft of Iran Contra to an NBC reporter. That can't be what you were talking.
01:36:08 No, I must have been thinking of someone else. I was thinking because there was. I think I'm thinking about that that that intern that was found dead in the the park in DC, like from jogging, but I think that's someone else.
01:36:24 Chandra Levy.
01:36:25 That's what. That's why I confused the name. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of.
01:36:30 Not even close.
01:36:31 Not even close. That's why. That's why I wanted to look
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01:38:21 They were just like that guy's a nigger, and so it's it's over. That's it. the The actual facts of the case didn't matter to anybody because this was a racial thing, and that was why that case was so popular. Outside of O.J. Simpson being famous and Nicole Brown Simpson being kind of glamorous, it's not that interesting of a case, you know. It was it's like very straightforward. I mean, there was the police chase, which was so highly publicized, and he was so famous back in the day. The juice, so you know. But but really, that was just about race. Obadiah Vandal says, catching the replay. I'm very sorry to hear about Churro. May he rest easy.
01:38:59 May He indeed, my friend Lori says September fun fun. Thank you, Lori. We really appreciate it. And then we've got Okimek. There's a good episode of Forensic Files called Paintball about the longest-serving prisoner in California. He never received the death penalty. He was originally sentenced in 1962 and died in prison in 2023. Oh my God! I have read though that the death penalty, because of the appeals process, is not cheaper for the taxpayer.
01:39:33 Well, I don't even care about. Here's here's what I would do. I would say I'd say streamline the appeals process
01:39:39 then. Yeah,
01:39:40 and and and make it limited in scope. Like you shouldn't be able to just challenge every little fucking thing just because the sentence is death. It should be there should be guidelines judges are forced to follow as to what would qualify the the the need for another trial instead of just autom. You get to appeal all the way up to the fucking Supreme Court, which is ridiculous. Oh yeah,
01:40:03 yeah, it's ridiculous. Um, last one over here says is murmur. He says rest in peace, churro. Thank you, we really appreciate that. All right, we're good on YouTube.
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01:40:52 yeah, it's all like blue.
01:40:54 So people could do that.
01:40:55 And I know it's my PayPal, but I do give Devon half.
01:40:59 Well, there you go. All right, then we got likes to watch. Says hope Churro's okay. Well, you probably said that before. Thank you both for rescheduling. Devon, can you please explain what exactly it means to be blackpilled? I feel like many people misunderstand it and think it means or it means the same as giving up. Well, look, there's. It's just like a general term, and so people have like they use it in different ways.
01:41:27 So, and I'm not like, even though I I have blackpill.com, I think I feel like I do have some say in what it means. It doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. The way I meant it, and I've always meant it, was that you realize that the system is fubar that trying to use the system to fix the system is never going to work, and that the sooner people realize that, the sooner we can get people in a headspace that makes other outside the system solutions possible, and that we're not going to be able to get there until enough people agree that the system doesn't work.
01:42:08 Otherwise, we will just be constantly putting, you know, voting every voting every November for like the same fucking decline spiral that we've been in for 100 years, and so that's what I I intend to do is to try to black people or black black people black get rid of get rid of all the black people now too black pill people on on the system because if you if you believe in it that's what gives it power I mean it it's it is quite literally an the system is imaginary, you know. There it doesn't have any kind of like real magical power.
01:42:48 That what gives it power is is that people believe in it, and so it will continue to have power until people stop believing it. So that is what I that's what I mean by that's what I've always meant by it, because the reason I changed my name to that, because I think it was like evil Hillary, because I was doing like you know anti-Hillary memes a million years ago, but the reason I went, I switched to Black Pilled was I realized after Trump got elected that the system was was done because it seemed like this Herculean effort to get Trump in there, and that that was like the last ditch effort. I'm talking about 2016, and that you know
01:43:27 if
01:43:28 and and he didn't even just fail. He he didn't even try. Like there was like it was it was such a low effort, poor results kind of outcome that I was just like, if that didn't do it, literally nothing's going to, because the white population is only going downhill from here, and this was the whitest guy. Well, supposedly the way it was presented, that you would ever get, and this was the most resistance.
01:43:58 Like it was all framed that way. It was all framed like, oh, he's a Nazi, whatever. Like, if you were going to run an actual Nazi, that would have been the time to do it, because apparently, you know, tell that didn't work. We still got Trump elected, and you'll never be able to do something like that again. You'll always have to get someone who who is signed off by whoever the new Adelsons are, who's going to fight Israel's wars to the extent that you get a white guy in there at all? You know, it's going to be either some self-hating white or some.
01:44:30 You know, it's going to be some goy. You're you're never going to get a non-Shabbish goy through the political process. And I think a perfect example of this is just these these recent elections here, where you had like all these gropers thinking that like Fishback was gonna go anywhere, like he was like he like he was worth a damn anyway. But like still, even some guy with some weird Jewy sounding last name couldn't do it, like not even fucking close. And it's because a lot of people are stuck in these online.
01:45:00 Echo chambers and think that we have more influence than we actually do, and they pump each other off, up and they get high on their own fucking supply, and they don't realize that we're a tiny fraction of the population, and there's never going to be some big white awakening. The fact that the whole reason why we're in this mess in the first place is we have the white genetics working against us.
01:45:25 Actually, the lowing group preference is there whether you want it to be or not, and the only way it goes away is going to be through a painful process of selection, which we have on the horizon, or we're kind of already in. So that's that's the problem, and that's why I want. That's why I call it black belt. Anyway, then we got likes to watch again. Says should have waited for the update. Sorry, Devon. That's all right. I kind of figured that. Then we got Gorilla Hand says o7 churro. That's right, everybody. F's F's in chat.
01:45:58 Was F and chat for churro or O sevens, I guess for Churro, and then we got Denise the Celt says, "Sorry, Devon. Churro was a legend. Thanks for or thank you for taking care of him and giving him the best life possible. He was beautiful. He was a good looking cat, wasn't he? Let's pop him back up. Why not? Let's give him a little. He was a handsome cat. What do I do here? There we go. There's handsome churro.
01:46:30 He looks tough.
01:46:32 Oh, he he's he was meaty. Like he was like a little like a little bulldog. Like I mean, compared to classified cat, which is like look at a
01:46:39 stick neck.
01:46:41 Oh yeah, oh yeah. Well, like I said, this is Fat Churro mode because he would go through phases. He would get skinny sometimes, but like in the winter, yeah, he was, he was, he was, he was a tough son of a bitch. I mean, he would, he dragged a whole ass rabbit through his cat flap into the house one day.
01:47:00 Like I just, I love you. Here you go. Yeah,
01:47:02 yeah. I came into the laundry room and it's just like a dead rabbit on the floor. I was like, "Thanks, buddy. Anyway, so yeah, you know, it is what it is. Then we got Tomohawk says, "Sorry for your loss, Devon. We're all going to miss Churro and the stories of his adventures. Oh seven, absolutely. Well, who knows? Maybe another night, someone, some Mexican will drop us off another cat, and we'll have ghost cat part two.
01:47:30 Churro's offspring will come kiss all over your door, and you'll be like,
01:47:34 "You look like churro. Here's some food. Then we got a cursed Jacob. Just says cursed Yakub. All right. Then we got D Man says I'm very sorry to hear to hear about the loss of Churro Devon. He brought a lot of joy to the dark Black Pill adventure as we go on with this channel. I too am going through a hard week this week. Am having a bad week as well because finally got a job and lost it after a few weeks. Long story short, I did a bad miscalculation. Here's Tachuro, and dear God, help us rise out of the troubles. Amen.
01:48:17 Sorry to hear that. I find when I lose a job that later it becomes apparent that I'm glad I lost the job.
01:48:25 Right, you know, and sometimes it gets you out of a a job that you would have maybe languished in too long anyway. So it for lights a fire under your ass and and makes you rethink things. So so hopefully hopefully you're able to land on your feet there, D-Man.
01:48:44 You will, D-Man.
01:48:47 All right. Then we got Zappas Zappas racist son, or yes, maybe Frank Zappa. Been listening to Black Pilled for a while. Appreciate all the work you do. Listening to the show on replay has got me through a lot of days of work. The last episode of Outlaws was your best. Thank you both. What was the last
01:49:09 episode of Outlaws? The
01:49:10 last episode of Outlaws was. It wasn't
01:49:15 the Steinbergs. That episode sucked.
01:49:17 Wasn't it our day or no? Yeah. Oh yeah,
01:49:20 it was. Yeah,
01:49:21 Jason Arday, the oh thank you AI stuff. Well, we we did have the fun AI music video thing. Get away from me, white woman, and all that stuff.
01:49:34 I did not listen to that several times after the stream was over. I'm admitting to nothing.
01:49:39 Yeah, and we and we that's also where we got to shit on Nathan Confess, who's been infinitely touring ever since. He's been on all the podcasts. Oh, so you you did the big reveal, the Nig. We're not going to ask you about how you believe in affirmative action, though.
01:49:53 Ooh.
01:49:54 All right. Thank you very much. Then we got. Let's see here. Purple. Catman with a big dono, and purple catman says, "Devon, you gave Churro his best life. I think that kitty had more than nine lives, and I think he had had a blast. Well, I'll tell you what, I know he had. I think I witnessed him losing like six of them. So I mean, I'm sure when he was out and about, who knows, right?
01:50:19 But yeah, he had some close calls that I was witness to. I was, in fact, I was going through some old videos. It's kind of funny, because like when he first started hanging out, he he stayed pretty close to the property. I think because you know he was.
01:50:32 This is why I think he was dropped off. But there's I I found this video was the first video of when he came back kind of wounded a little bit, and I was like, "Whoa, he looks all fucked up. But like, I'm looking at the video, go like, "Man, he he got way more fucked up than that. Like, yeah, he actually looks kind of fine. Like, I wouldn't even notice that nowadays. But yeah, thank you very much, Purple Cabin. That was very very generous.
01:50:56 Thank you.
01:50:58 All right, then we got Harry Turtle says, "Rest in peace, Churro. Thank you for all you do. We'll appreciate that. And then Purple Capment says, Rebecca, I wanted you to watch a YouTube Be Kind Rewind episode about Vanessa Redgrave. I think her I think her heart was in the right spot, but it's always fun to see the left eating its own.
01:51:21 I will put that into my folder right now. Thank you.
01:51:24 Who's Vanessa Redgrave?
01:51:27 An old actress.
01:51:33 Hmm. I'll look her up here. Vanessa Redgrave. Do I recognize this bitch? Not really. All right. Well, no, I don't immediately recognize her. But thank you very much. Then we got Yo Jimbo Rockford says I watch Ghost Cat Edition in real time. Now here we have come full circle, in tune with the your good soul, and I have that I have alluded. You gave him a good life.
01:52:08 He became part of the show and became our little buddy too. I'm going to miss the churro stories, however, it it grates some. I'm not sure that part means a great sum of churro's life. We must not be too sad. It's over. We should be glad it happened. True. He was
01:52:32 he was our little white nationalist mascot. That cat.
01:52:37 That's right. And then Ghost Dog Man says, "Our Churro, we helped feed him exactly. You guys did. He ate a lot. I I'm not joking when I say I spent more money on churros food than I spent on my own food, and and definitely on his medical care.
01:52:53 Well, he was out there being a savage all the time. That requires a lot of exercise.
01:52:56 Yeah, no, he was. I mean, he would put down like I when he first arrived, I had some shitty cat food that classified cat wouldn't eat. It was a full like the big like the big super cheap cans. That's why classified cat wouldn't eat it, like the full on like soup can size. And I I saw him back there and I just like dumped it into a bowl, and he ate the whole fucking thing, and and wanted more.
01:53:20 And so I gave him another one. It was like he was ridiculous. He was like a bottomless pit. All right, then we got sticks sent me here. Says Devon, I'm sorry, dude. We love you guys. Well, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Then we got cursed Yakub says sorry for your loss, Devon. Rebecca, do you find it hard to maintain girl friendships with your views or viewers or views? My gal lost a childhood friend over Clancy. Oh, over your political views. My gal lost a childhood friend over the Clancy case for not thinking she's innocent.
01:54:01 No, not really. But I live in a specific enclave of the country where people would only be friends with me if I if I were like this. Like if I were leftist, I wouldn't have any friends.
01:54:14 But what what about child? What about like old school childhood friends, though?
01:54:18 Yeah, but I didn't keep a lot of them. As soon as I became racist. I was like, I'm out on this
01:54:23 one. Yeah, I pretty much lost all my friends when I became racist. That's what happens. All right, Harry Tuttle, 1488 says, "Get out and start engaging in IRL activism for our people. Join groups like Nova and PF, and start rebuilding our communities today. Much love to you both, H H and Hyle Churro. All right, yeah, I I believe that there's a lot of value in that, especially because you know networking I think is going to become very important over the next several decades as people. Start to realize that yeah, there is no political solution.
01:55:05 Sober in the Valley says, "Tears for Churro. God bless. Well, I appreciate that. All right, then we got Ghost Dog Man says, "FYI, Gypsy fight against the Jew will be streamed on iHippocrit's channel tomorrow. Well, there you go. Then we got D-Man says, "I rewatched your O.J. stream from time to time. I have to look away at the photo of the dead Nicole every time, but not for long. Bring in the mega pit for O.J. Simpson and the Jews who defend monsters like him. Looks like this is a part two of the OJ stream you made two years ago. Might as well watch both as a chronicle or something. There you go. Okay,
01:55:48 in defense of OJ something, no, he's he's a monster. But she had a super abusive relationship with him before they got, and then she kept going back to him, and also he's black, and I'm pretty sure he was married to like a nice black lady when he met her. She was like 818, or something like that. So, like, did she deserve it? No, but she kind of had it coming, right?
01:56:15 Well, she paid the toll.
01:56:16 She paid the toll. She sure did. While
01:56:19 while while finagling with a Jew,
01:56:22 yeah, yeah, I don't like this argument that they weren't banging. They were obviously banging, right? Yeah, they were. She forgot her glasses. It's like,
01:56:29 oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure. Just the nice Jew came was like, "Here's your glasses, ma'am. I don't want anything for that.
01:56:35 Yeah, exactly.
01:56:37 All right, then we got Giga Chad of NPC says, "Hey, Devon, regarding regarding some caucus or caucasus, I don't know pops, avars, locks. I don't know what this these words mean. That don't cluster with modern euros. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yet are closer than some South Euros to West Eurasian core and West Euro hunter gatherers. Pure Euros are they white?
01:57:03 According to modern genetics and anthropology, the defining characteristics of Europeans that separates from the Arabs of and or Iranians is decreased affinity to European hunter-gatherers. I don't. I'd have to see specifically where these people plot in terms of genetic distance with the true white people, which is obviously the Anglo, and and that's all, just the Anglo's. I mean, that's what the founding fathers would have said. But I mean, I I would say obviously in in the the context of white Americans, you know, Northwestern Europeans is white, right? And so, is there some wiggle room? Sure. Is there some genetic distance? Sure.
01:57:51 So I'd have to see how far, like, how distant are they? Are they are they more distant than, say, like a Ashkenazi Jew? Are they more distant than someone who's Finnish? Finnish are actually pretty distant, but I'd still consider them white. Of
01:58:07 course, they're white. They're not that distant.
01:58:09 No, they're pretty distant because they they're they're they were isolated from the rest of Europe, and they're so close to Asia. We
01:58:16 looked this up on on that that graphic a few weeks ago.
01:58:21 I don't know, but like no, they. I mean, they're distinctly. I mean, they're different. I mean, they're they are they cluster. They have their own little cluster. The Finnish people, because they they were very isolated for a long time, and they they are close to East Asians in some ways, but I mean, again, it doesn't matter. They're still, as far as I'm concerned, they're still white. You know what I mean? But so I'd have to see specifically these groups you're talking about, like how how far away they are and what their societies look like. You know that sort of thing. Pepe Matters says, "Sorry for your loss. You gave him a good home.
01:59:02 Thank you for the informational, entertaining streams. Animals are greater companions and neighbors than naggers and oyves. This is true. This is true. Chura would never have been a Jew. He would have never treated me like a Jew or a nig. The shadow band says thanks for all the great content. These people are so slimy. Absolutely. Then we got D Man says. Side note, in case you ever knew, R.I.P. Mark Fuhrman. He passed away earlier this year. Glad I didn't know
01:59:36 that he lived up here.
01:59:38 I didn't know that either. But
01:59:39 he was a standpoint guy. I'm pretty sure.
01:59:43 Well, everyone's dying this year. It seems like.
01:59:45 Yeah, totally.
01:59:46 We got Dolly. Hayden
01:59:47 Penetier. No surprise there, though.
01:59:50 Yeah. All right, we got a Gorilla Hand says the jury has been in deliberation all day deciding on the guilt of Lindsey Clancy. Then we got Gorilla Hand says even though she has admitted to killing her three children.
02:00:08 Yeah,
02:00:09 yeah, we'll we'll have to see how that turns out. Then Godzilla Hand says replay gang, much love, keep busy, R.I.P. Churro, you will be missed, but the fight continues. Seasons change. Absolutely, the the age of Churro unfortunately has come to a close. We'll see what happens next. Then we got D Man says it turns out the Exonerated is on DVD. Go on Blu-ray.com website. Yeah, no, you can you can find DVDs on like eBay and stuff like that. It's just been taken down from every streaming service imaginable.
02:00:49 Yo, Jimbo Rockford says I remember when Oprah did a show on the Innocence Project. They brought out some fat ginger with a stage full of joggers to brag about how they got him off death row. I think he was the only white guy. Yeah. Well, that's the other aspect of it. Is it's it's obviously disproportionately black people they're trying to get out of out of prison, and that appeals to Jews and the people who donate to Jews. Yo, Jimbo Rockford says, "Well, I do not have proof. I think we all know they only did did that so they could say, "See, we help white people too. I hate these fucking people. Absolutely, absolutely. D Man again says in closing, I want to remind of a special stream request, either the Insomnia streamer outlaws in 2007 double homicide in Knoxville of a white couple by five blacks. It's a very bad case. I know which I know a case. Didn't you cover?
02:01:49 I think you covered that, didn't you?
02:01:51 No, no. It's everyone requested. It's it's hyper violent, and I just it's
02:01:58 too violent. It's horrific that case. Yeah,
02:02:01 it's really bad, and I, you know, there will come a day where I'm just that in that kind of headspace where I'm just like, "Fuck it, we're going in, we're going in. But believe it or not, you know, I like to maintain like a even keel, despite the rumors that I'm some kind of, you know, psycho
02:02:22 backfiller.
02:02:23 Yeah, I actually don't don't always enjoy reading about you know nice white people being tortured to death. So we might have to you know we might have to address it at some point. But but I am well I'm well aware of the case. You know, Jimmer Rockford says as a football or as football fan at the time, I, along with many others, were shocked because of his good guy talking about OJ. I'm guessing public image, but the best part of the OJ saga was watching him devolve into the feral nig he always was. He should never have
02:03:00 had that good during his good guy image, he still had a terrible history of domestic violence. It's just the police were not doing anything about it because he was the juice,
02:03:09 right? Absolutely. Then we got Iron of Sodder says replay gang. Hope Churro gets better. Well, rah rah. You'll find out in the replay. You're both great. Thanks for the show. Ah, it's fine. It's fine. Iron of solder. You didn't know. You didn't know better, so that's fine. Ah, let's see here, and then we got. I think that's it. I think we're good.
02:03:37 Let me reload over here. See if I got anything else. Oh yeah, Dolly Parton died too. That's right.
02:03:46 Yeah,
02:03:47 I am good over here. Thank you guys so much for joining our rescheduled stream on Friday. It was fun to hang out with you guys on a Friday night.
02:03:56 Absolutely, and like I said, no insomnia stream tomorrow night. If who knows, I might I might do a random churro thing, but probably not. Probably just going back to normal on Saturday, and obviously before that, we'll have another episode of Outlaws on Wednesday. This time, 5p.m. Pacific Time.
02:04:21 Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week.
02:04:24 You guys have a good weekend.
02:04:26 Bye.