Outlaws： Episode 26, Physiognomy - 09/02/2026

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00:04:08 Devon likes to talk about all all the things that are going wrong wipe right before we go live. It's um, it doesn't make me stressed out at all. I'm I'm 0% stressed out right now. Everything's fine.
00:04:21 Yeah, I forgot forgot to activate the thing, and I knew it. And there's no going back once you're live. It is what it is. That's that's the I guess that's the charm of a live show, right? Isn't that what they say? Fuck it, we'll do it live.
00:04:36 We'll do it live. I'm Rebecca Hargraves. This is Outlaws,
00:04:41 and I am Devon Stack, and this is all. This it's still outlaws, believe it or not. And today we're going to talk about a word that I used to mispronounce all the time, so I'm going to be paranoid about doing it again today.
00:05:00 It's actually I did look up the pronunciation because I say physiognomy and it seems that both are correct.
00:05:06 Physiognomy. See, that's what I was saying before. I thought everyone's like, no, there's like G's and N's and like weird places and so physiognomy, huh? We're gonna go with physiognomy. I'll remember it because it'd be like fizzy, like a like a soda, on like I'm pouring it on myself. Ah, like I'm a Mexican fizzanami essay. Yeah, I don't know.
00:05:32 Is this your thought process for words?
00:05:34 Yeah. How did you get
00:05:35 anonymity down?
00:05:37 I didn't. So that's because there's no you can't make anything with that. You can be like Anna. There's a girl named Anna, and she likes the secret of Nim, and she's you're doing
00:05:51 it. You're doing it. She's part
00:05:53 of the itty bitty titty committee, you know. Anna, I don't know. But now I can't. I can't do it. It was too. I messed it up.
00:06:02 So. when I used to do Beauty in the Beta or the Matt and Blonde show, we always used to talk about criminal head shape and how you can just tell that somebody is a criminal. And I always knew that there was something behind it. And I've watched like every Duddy episode, and he's always talking about how you can tell if somebody's a spiteful mutant through their physiognomy, and I just knew I knew that there was something to this. So we really did a deep dive. We looked into this extensively, and guess what? There is something to it. Not phrenology, although we will talk about that a little bit, but physiognomy.
00:06:41 Yeah, no
00:06:41 surprise there. I mean, we have to have some kind of innate desire or biological urge to to practice some kind of discrep or you know to discrimination between people that are evil or dangerous or and people that are going to treat us kindly and have loyalty. So who knew? Who knew?
00:07:01 Well, you would think that we would have evolved, right, to be able to make snap decisions about other human beings just based on looking at them. And well, turns out, you know, we have. Before we get started, you want to talk about our sponsor before we forget?
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00:08:14 Absolutely, but they're
00:08:15 doing it.
00:08:17 All right, so we we thought we could play a little game before we really dive into everything to see if how how skilled you guys might be at you know just estimating people by just looking at them. So here we go. This is a little game we like to call what did we call it? Like, what? What does your face mean? How about that? We'll call it that.
00:08:46 What did they do? Or driving drunk? What did they do?
00:09:02 All right. So, what do you guys think this guy did? Yeah, you guys can. We'll go at the end of the show.
00:09:09 Super chats, and we'll talk about at the end of the show. Who should we call this guy number one? Let's call him number one.
00:09:14 This is number one. So, this is number one. All right. Look at his
00:09:18 eyes. Look at the bags under his. Look at the ear shape. All right.
00:09:22 Pull out your calipers.
00:09:24 Yeah, yeah, and facial expression. That is an important part of physiognomy. So you can you can take that into account. You can take into account anything that you see here. Or maybe
00:09:36 you think he's a nice guy, and you would give him a job or let him babysit your kids.
00:09:41 Yeah.
00:09:42 All right, we can play this song again, or just go boom to the next one. How about this guy?
00:09:47 All right, what do you see?
00:09:49 What do you think, man? What an ugly bastard! So, what does what does this guy make you think of when you just look at him? Just this guy number two. This is guy number two. Just look and be like, ha. What did this guy do? Oh, people are saying I have a terrible
00:10:08 echo. Is this true?
00:10:10 No, I don't think so. Oh. Oh yes, you do. There, I fixed it. Ah. Sorry.
00:10:18 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, audience, for letting me know.
00:10:22 Yeah, that was that was my fault. Okay. All right, we're gonna we're gonna do. If if you forgot the options for what these people could have done, you know, because they they could have done anything, right? Or not anything actually. There's there's a limited amount of things they could have done, and so here's the options again. You guys ready? Here we go.
00:10:48 What did they do? Look at that criminal face. Was it assault? What did they do? Was it stealing? Diddling a kid? What did they do? Or driving drunk? What did they do?
00:11:04 So what do you think he did? Out of all those options, all right. So think it over. Think it over. All right. Now we're going. Our next guy. This guy.
00:11:17 Ooh. I actually don't know what this guy did.
00:11:22 I know what he did. I know what he did. Remember, the options are.
00:11:30 Did they do? Look at that criminal face. Was it assault? What did they do? Was it stealing? Diddling a kid? What did they do? Or driving drunk?
00:11:46 Think long and hard. All right, now our next one. Oh my God! This one's kind of. I'm glad you
00:11:55 put some surprises in there.
00:11:57 This one's a little. I know. I
00:11:58 know the answer to this
00:12:00 one. Yeah.
00:12:00 What did they do? Look at that criminal face. Was it assault? What did they do? Was it stealing? What did they do? Diddling a kid? What did they do? Or driving drunk? What did they do?
00:12:16 Look at those inward turned eyes. I mean the tranny thing, of course.
00:12:21 Yeah,
00:12:22 but there's a lot more going on here.
00:12:24 Yeah. All right. So everyone, mull that over. Those are the ones. Or do I have another one? No, we don't have another one. Well, not really. We we all know what she did. So that was you know the you have the four choices. You know, driving drunk. You know, let you guys look at the faces again. Driving drunk, assault, diddling a kid, or stealing. So there you go. This is number two, number three, and number four.
00:13:00 Oh my gosh!
00:13:05 All right. It's real too. They're all real. All right. Okay.
00:13:13 Get your super chats in. We'll tell you at the end of the show.
00:13:16 Okay. So let's. I guess we should talk about What is physiognomy?
00:13:25 So, for those of you that don't know, it is the practice of judging a person's character or their personality or their mental qualities, their mental health issues, from not only their facial features but just generally their outward appearance. So, I think that it is something that we practice daily. You may have seen this, you know, getting some play on Twitter. It is remarkably accurate, remarkably, yeah.
00:13:53 And this, of course, is what's gonna call it, Kate. What's her first name? Something Casey.
00:13:57 Lindsey Clancy.
00:13:59 Clancy.
00:14:00 Yep.
00:14:00 the The woman who, um, no, I'm not even going to say allegedly. The the woman. Well, no, she admitted to it. The woman who killed her kids, who killed all three of her kids, um, with a plan to do so because she sent her husband out of the house
00:14:18 and build a bunch of stuff.
00:14:21 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and then and then the I like how apparently there's a hung jury right now, right? Is that is that done now? So they have to retrial, or they they get sent back to re deliberate, or actually
00:14:32 not sure on the status. Let me look that up. But I do
00:14:36 understand that some of the jury, the female jury members, wore pink in solidarity.
00:14:43 What?
00:14:43 Yeah, when they when they gave their hung jury notice.
00:14:49 Oh, that's retarded. Deadlock jury and Lindsey Clancy trial goes home after a fifth day without a verdict. So you know some of these some of these chicks are are going to hand the jury. Then then she'll be retried. I'm sure.
00:15:00 Yeah, they'll have to do it all over again.
00:15:02 Yep.
00:15:04 Well, they should sequester the jury this time, and then not have any women or niggs or that's not. If it was just white dudes on that jury, it would have been done. Yeah,
00:15:12 it'd be done. It would have been
00:15:13 done. She would have been hanging in the town square if this was a real country. So anyway, we're gonna go over the because it's it's not like a a new thing. Like I said, this is something that humans have evolved to do, and and in fact hasn't really changed much. Like the fact that this drawing here is so exactly like her should tell you something because this this drawing's from like the 1800. Excuse me.
00:15:39 Yeah, a nose nose.
00:15:43 Sorry, I had to cough there. The we're getting a second spring, so all these rainstorms that we got that came rolling through, flash flood alerts all over the place. But it's good for the bees because I was just I just drove out to the post office today, and everything's green. Like everything's green. There's like flowers everywhere. Like it's amazing how quickly the desert goes from like nothing is alive to like it looks like spring. Yeah. And so the bees. In fact, I'm gonna probably have to throw on some extra boxes on some of these hives because there's it's we're gonna have just like it's gonna be like spring all over again for the next couple weeks.
00:16:23 So they're reinvigorated. They're gonna try to kill you even harder now.
00:16:27 No, they're actually kind of happy when it's this time of year because the ones that get mad, well, if there's food, like if they're if they're busy going and getting, I mean, don't get me wrong, they still try to kill you, but they're they're they're less enthusiastic about killing you because more of them are they have something to do, and it's mostly like in the summer months when there's not they have all their food and they're just they're just guarding their food from like other bees trying to steal their food, and so it's just like these weird turf wars between bees going on. As soon as you open up one hive, the other hives like are alerted to oh there's free honey if we go attack them and then it becomes this big nonsense World War bee in the bee yard so
00:17:09 yeah yeah you you had like a lovely English white hobby that has been destroyed by your by your black bees
00:17:19 it is true It is true. So, anyway, the so let's talk about the history of it. You know, the the physio goes goes way back to antiquity. In fact, so in in ancient Greece, in ancient Greece, they used to read omen marks on the body, and they would judge faces by if you know how they resembled animals. So it was like you know we're talking like pretty rudimentary, but they were thinking like, well, if you look kind of like a rat, you know you're probably kind of like rat-like, and if you look kind of like a lion, then you're probably like a lion, and and that sort of a thing. So they had zoological methods of looking at your face and determining what kind of animal you looked like, and and then deciding that you might have traits from that that kind of an animal.
00:18:19 That's retarded. It
00:18:20 is retarded, but it was a start. It was a way of them trying to understand. They were like, well, you know, we seem, you know, different faces seem to have different attributes, and so maybe we should, you know, look at this through the lens of animals. Which you know, they did a lot of stuff through, you know, through animals like, you know, you know, like the what am I calling astrology and stuff like that. Yeah. All right. So then you got, and then you also had ethnological. So this one's the one that makes normal sense.
00:18:56 This is what everyone does, where they would, you know, ancient Romans or ancient Greek rather would look at a man from Africa and go, "Well, he's black, so hide your stuff because he's gonna try to steal. And thank God, bikes have not been invented yet. And so that there was that that obviously that still holds up. And then there was pathognomic emotional stress. where it was basically you would look at a face, like so. For example, if someone has laugh lines, or you could look at marks on their face that would maybe indicate the kinds of emotions that they experience most often because they've left a mark in the creases of their of their face. Now that makes sense too.
00:19:44 That's there's something there, yeah.
00:19:46 Because you can look at like a a bitter old man versus a nice old man, and that's probably quite literally what happened. Like that's why you're you're making that association because you're looking at someone who's been smiling. For 80 years versus someone who's been like, you know, just looking angry for 80 years. So oh
00:20:07 yeah, yeah, I I got the elevens for my my scowl, my angry anti-Semitic scowl. So there's some truth to that.
00:20:16 There you go. See, and then there was also the Hippocrates. facies as prognosis, which was basically part of, and this is still taught today in in well in medical books, where the first step step to trying to determine what is wrong with someone is you look at them, you know you look at them and say you know hey what what does he look like he has you know and then you can you know then you obviously go from there, but that's always the first step.
00:20:54 So in the Hippocratic Treaty Prognosticon chapter two the first instruction in acute illness is look at the face, look at the face, and also the Hippocratic face of death, which is also still in textbooks, which we've got here, where if you're trying to determine how someone died, again you look at their face, and their face will have indicators of you know like whether they starved to death or what you know whatever, and so this is something that we still use even today. Moving on to Rome, ancient Rome.
00:21:39 Oh wait, why is that guy not in here? Ah, I didn't put his little picture in here. Let me let me load that up. This is did I not download it? I might not have downloaded it. That's okay. You'll just have to take my. This just imagine
00:21:54 a Roman sculpture
00:21:56 of of Pullman of Laodicea. Pull yes. Who was a a Roman who was let's see here, born in the second century A.D. He wrote a Greek physiognomy handbook around the second century, and so no, actually it's Marcus Antonius Pullman. Sorry, I had it wrong. Marcus Antonius Pullman. I'm those are the same
00:22:27 guy. It's fine.
00:22:29 Well, yeah, but I think I did the wrong thing. Oh yeah, no, it is the same guy. Okay, I didn't say it wrong. I just I just said it more explicitly the second time. How about that? I'm going to bring up his picture. A reason I have a reason for it, though. So let me bring him up. Let's see. He was onto something.
00:22:46 He was talking about body character and how you can choose friends and avoid enemies on sight. Now the thing about this is that there are so many. We'll talk about this in a little bit. But when you when you have a first impression, there are all these micro cues Into somebody's behavior and personality that are not apparent to all of us, so it's really hard to parse out like like what is giving you information, what what visual information is is going into your brain that helps you decide whether or not somebody is going to be trustworthy. But we all know those mechanisms exist. Tell me about this.
00:23:23 So the reason why I wanted to bring him up or bring his statue up is even now. I mean, this guy's been dead for 2000 years, but just by looking at this statue, you get a sense of him.
00:23:38 Yeah,
00:23:39 and and and that's that's something that has been. I mean, it seems like it's something that shouldn't even have to be said. But every time that you're able to find like, oh, what is the what did this you know person history actually look like?
00:23:52 I mean, you want to see it because you can better assess the kind of person they were just by looking at a statue or a painting, or now that we have photographs, yeah, photos, and so just being able to see their face lets you better assess them, and so that's that's something that everyone I think can relate to, and you think that like that's also why you know people they want to put people on money, you know that's why you know Benjamin Franklin's on the $100 bill because it it does transmit information and and obviously the information sometimes has like a propaganda effect of you know like look at like is obviously I doubt Benjamin Franklin on a bad day looked as good as he does on $100 bill which still isn't all that good, you know, and so you know there's a reason why they have the portraits of the presidents and all this stuff because they want to give you like the an optimal view of this person, you know, the best possible version of them.
00:24:58 So anyway, he. He was basically a social climber, and so he a lot of what he focused on was trying to assess whether or not people could help you politically and socially, and so that was kind of his audience when he wrote this book. And it's funny because he he went not only into like everyone. In fact, this is kind of interesting. Everyone starts with the eyes. It seems like when you look at these ways of assessing people, and then they move on from there. But he actually goes into like genitalia and like everything else. Yeah, where he's just like you know, if their dick is big, you know.
00:25:42 Did he say that? Was he talking about like honesty or like masculinity or what? You know, what context was he discussing this?
00:25:49 I, I, I don't, I don't think that I drilled down far enough to find out exactly what, what, what, yeah, to what extent. Let me just see. I'll see if I can look it up. I would like to know what
00:26:00 search terms you're using, right?
00:26:02 Well, I'm looking up Marcus Setonius Pullman. What did he think genitalia told you about people? Let's see here. We'll have to wait for this survey. Says, hmm. I always forget that I have it in expert mode, so it's like, well, hold on, let me really assess what genitalia actually means. And
00:26:33 through every document ever, yeah, looking for
00:26:35 let me look for genitalia and Marcus Antonius Pullman. We're oh, it's we're gonna get an answer though. Here we go. Someone
00:26:46 in the live chat just said, "Can I tell if she has a deceitful muff?
00:26:51 Yeah, well, probably. All right, so here we go. Genitalia and related congenital conditions as a sign of character in his physiognomy. The original Greek is lost. We know it is the. All right, who cares about that part? He read the body as a map of the soul. Eyes were the most important, followed by the face, then the rest of the physique. Genital anomalies. What would what would qualify as a genital anomaly? Genital anomalies. Well, I mean, is that like an anomaly in ancient Rome, or you kind of felt? Yeah,
00:27:26 but they probably didn't know what was going on.
00:27:28 I feel like they'd be riddled with STDs back then. Yeah, genital anomalies and the secondary traits that went with them-voice, gait, and flesh quality, hair-were used to diagnose masculinity, femininity, and self-control and sexual appetite.
00:27:46 Okay, that's fair.
00:27:47 Here's a key example: the Favorinus, Pullman's most famous and hostile case, is his rival sophist Favorinus of Arleigh's. He describes him as a eunuch, who is not a eunuch, but who was born without testicles, a congenital crypto kid, or intersex condition. Associated signs include eyes that are wide open, glittering like marble, and sharp-sighted, a mark of shamelessness and a lack of modesty, soft feminine body, swollen or puffed forehead, slack cheeks, broad mouth, long, thin neck, fleshy calves, and feet, limp joints, and a gait that is not upright, high womanish voice, extreme care of the hair, and use of ointments.
00:28:48 So he's talking about fags, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's
00:28:50 basically just describing fags. So there you go. His his. That's
00:28:55 interesting. I mean, before they knew anything about hormones, he had already established that it was related to testicular volume, and that that and that that changed your facial structure and your body habitus. That's incredibly insightful.
00:29:13 Well, and you'll notice with a lot of this stuff, that's kind of what it is. It's like they're they're working with the the the worldview that they they were born with. They're they're trying to work within that you know limited knowledge base that they've got, and they still come up with some at least reasonably good observations with some of this stuff,
00:29:31 right? And now in with with transgenderism, we've somehow moved away from what they knew in in ancient Rome, like believing that you can have the spirit of a woman and the body of like a masculine man. Even people back then would be like, "This is preposterous.
00:29:46 Yeah, yeah. So then we got the even the ancient Chinese practiced what they called Mian. I think I think it's got to be pronounced Miansheng Miansheng, which is. A tradition of face mapping, and it's used for kind of a type of fortune telling, but also for hiring people and for matchmaking.
00:30:12 In fact, some big companies in in China will hire someone to assess people based on some of these markers. This was I found a website talking about this, and so they'll look at your resume and compare it to your face, which is kind of awesome. I think so.
00:30:31 If the resume claim is highly detail oriented, the mangjang indicator would be wide scattered eyebrows, and potential discrepancy would be may lack focus or follow through, and then another resume claim is thrives in teams, and then they would look for sunken cheeks, thin nose, likely prefers autonomy, solitary solitary worker. That's really
00:30:59 interesting because if you are like a gamer and your your nutrition is bad and things like that and you and you really are a solitary individual, there might be some truth to that.
00:31:10 Could be because yeah the the Chinese are high IQ. Yeah, they were and they were working with the same kind of the only thing that I feel like it would make it more difficult for them is they all fucking look the same,
00:31:20 yeah.
00:31:21 All right. So then you got you know risk management expert exposed nostrils tendency towards leaking source resources and money. I
00:31:29 like how they're so concerned about that. They're not our IP. The biggest thieves of thieves of IP in the world.
00:31:37 Or if you say you're a resilient leader and you have a receding chin. They'll be like, "No, you'll retreat when challenged.
00:31:44 That's true too, because it's a marker of low testosterone.
00:31:47 That is true. So they, the even the Koreans today, they use apps on their phone that will assess their face, and they'll use it for matchmaking and for you know kind of like I mean it's not so different from like astrology astrological signs like and I would say it's on equal footing in terms of popularity from what I could see where not everyone believes in it but enough to where like they're like just every anyone who's been in the dating market knows that there are girls who actually care what your sign is and will judge you based on your sign.
00:32:29 Yeah, and the same thing with with this in in places like Korea. Apparently, they will run the the the guy's face in an app, and it'll like beep boop boop pop pop pop pop, and they'll be like, "Oh, sorry, Chin Chong, you are not compatible with me. Your chin is two millimeters too wide, and so we cannot make this happen. So that's why
00:32:51 there's such a crazy culture of plastic surgery in Korea.
00:32:55 Well, probably it's probably related. In fact, I almost wonder if you were to read the face with one of these apps, I wonder if it is tied to attractiveness in some way, right? Like if you were to like assess a face and then like get plastic surgery and see how the reading would change, it would probably be like a more positive reading because I I kind of feel like that's what most of these things are tied to.
00:33:19 They're all tied to like attractiveness, right? Because that's something that if if the people who are creating the standards, I mean, there there a lot of this is just intuition, or at least at this phase, like in this at on this part of the timeline, they don't have a lot of data, so they're just kind of having to be like, well, my intuition says that this guy looks like less of a criminal, and so that's the standard, you know, and and so that's kind of what I think they that that they did for this stuff.
00:33:47 A lot of it, you know, kind of like with the well, he looks like a bear, so he maybe he's like a bear, you know, that kind of you know that's it was kind of dumb, but the the couple things that they got right at this phase was they realized something that really has that again where we get pushback on today when it comes to race realism and stuff like that, and that is they understood that there is a connection between outward appearance and the mind, that we're not just these souls that are driving random body vehicles around, and you know, just like, and unfortunately, that's what that's the kind of friction we run into in talking about race realism, especially with religious people, where they're like, "Oh, it's just you know, the appearances don't mean anything. It's and and to the same degree, leftists will tell you the same thing, right?
00:34:40 Or that race is skin deep, or whatever, and it's like no, it's not. The face is has is going to display the same level of mutational load that the rest of the body likely is is is has, and there and there is a real connection between the development of the brain and the face. So of
00:35:00 course they have the same time in utero. So
00:35:03 right, so they understand that they understood that the development was shared between, you know, the the nervous system and the skull and the face, and they also understood that people already used these things as a way of judgment.
00:35:19 Like this is something that we've been doing since forever, and I would even say that probably other animals do the same thing. Like there's probably markers that, like, say a wolf is looking at when it looks at another wolf to determine if it's more aggressive than it it is, and and you know making the determination based on just facial anomalies and whatnot, so they understood this was like a natural process.
00:35:47 And again, the the Hippocratic stuff is still in. I mean, it seems like you know. Well, of course, it's still in practice, but you know, just it goes. It shows you how how far back that that common sense goes. So after you know this time period, we have the the Renaissance, leading into one of the first real pioneers, which we'll talk about a moment, named Lavater. But first, we're going to talk about Gambit Tista del della Porta. All right, so this guy was born in 1586, and in 1586 he illustrated, or not 1586.
00:36:36 He was born, I guess, before 1586. In 1586 he illustrated an encyclopedia of animal humans, and because you know, kind of going along the same lines, where like so, for example, this, like, oh, you look like an owl, so you're probably like an owl, or something. And but he was trying to get a little more complicated than that because at the time, you know, as artist artistry was getting more complex, he ran into a lot of the same sort of problems that anyone teaching art to students would run into, and that is how to not just draw a human that looks like a human, but also draw a human that that looks expressive, that looks like they are transmitting some kind of emotion from the canvas, and you know, look, you're having the same kind of problem.
00:37:28 Like when you look at early 3d animation, where you have kind of like these just dead-eyed fucking 3d, you know, you know, uncanny valley staring faces. It's the same thing. It's like one thing to create a human, but it's quite another thing to understand how to shape the face in such a way that that data that your brain is always looking for, so that you can assess a human.
00:37:53 Like when you look at someone and you're trying to assess what kind of a threat they pose, what or what maybe what kind of maybe they they could be a friend or or how closely related they are to you, like all the sorts of like you know real quick judgments you're making when you see a face. If you look at a a canvas, you're even though it's not a real person, your brain is attempting to do the same thing. It's trying to gather the same information. So what he wanted to do, Mona
00:38:18 Lisa is so famous, right? Because she has these mic. I mean, she's barely smiling, but he was able to convey like that, just that touch of of you know some secret that she has. And artists were were very good at that,
00:38:34 right? And so that's this this is what they were trying to create like a method for, so they could they could get that information on in in their artwork and and have more inspiring artwork though although there was some static you know unfortunately because even though he was creating you know like these these in addition to creating these like theories that also that the outward body had a connection to the person on the inside, in that by changing the outside you would also alter the inside, and or by changing the inside you would alter the outside. He ran afoul of the Catholic Church, Catholic Church that hates science. Was I mean? Like seriously,
00:39:29 help yourself, can you? No,
00:39:30 no. The Pope outlawed physiognomy. The Pope outlawed because he said it was too much. Like if because he was saying that like you're not allowed to look at a face and determine anything about people that way, because that's like too much like fortune telling, and we're all just we're all just God's children, and we're all unique souls, and just ran like he literally.
00:39:53 That's this is how far this fucking problem goes. So they they were they banned physiognomy because. Said that it was too much, like it, it, it was insulting to the idea of an immortal soul, and they arrested him and accused him of necromancy.
00:40:12 Really?
00:40:13 Yes, it gets better. In 1578, they held him in the Vatican for a while, and they they voted to torture him, but because of his ill health, they they didn't torture him for very long, I guess. And then they let him go. And then there was a apparently a Catholic witch hunter named Jean Bodin, who wanted to burn him at the stake because he. Oh yeah. thanks, thanks Catholics.
00:40:46 Anyway, so because he wrote this book. Now this book, it was just a a book talking about like potions that were used by people, but he the framing of the book was: Look, guys, this isn't magic; it's it's chemistry.
00:41:05 Like if like if you do this recipe that's supposed to be like it's a witch's flying potion. If you rub it on your body, you can fly. He's like, what's really happening is you're hallucinating, and you think you're flying, and so they weren't mad that he published a potion book. They were mad that he said it wasn't demons, and that that and that it was chemistry. I'm not kidding, and and because in the book he talked about magnets, he he talked about distillation, optics, and and you know sleeping potions, which would be you know considered medicine now, and so because he wasn't saying that it was it was actual spirits and that the witches were actually flying around with the power of demon power, but instead they were just hallucinating with like this this nightshade shit that they were putting on their bodies, and because it was like a hallucinogen, they they wanted to burn him at the stake because he said it was chemistry instead of demons. So people were
00:42:09 mad that he was like, "Take this. Well, no. Well, he wasn't
00:42:13 saying take this. It was like an expose because he was Catholic technically. I mean, and so his book was was basically like this is an expose of witches' potions, and then he went into like you know what it really was, you know, and and so they and they and their accusations weren't that he published the the recipes for these potions; it's that he contended that it wasn't demons; that it was it was chemistry.
00:42:40 So they wanted to burn him at the stake because they hated science. All right. So then, in 1592, Cardinal Santori banned him from from publishing any more books because they hate information too. And it's look it up if you want, and so he couldn't. He wasn't allowed to publish any more books on on physiognomy or any other books that would predict outcomes based on anything physical, and he published it anyway under the penalty of excommunication, 500 gold ducats under a fake name in 1598, and by the time they figured out that he did it, I think he already died. So it wasn't like they couldn't punish him.
00:43:32 So yeah, again, what? So his problem or their problem wasn't anything to do with like the potions. It's just that because he wouldn't say it was demons. Next up, we have this guy. Oh, before we do that, though, one of the things that this guy high or where is he? There he is.
00:43:53 One thing that that this highlights is that not only a lot of the lefty artist types that would be most opposed to physiognomy on some kind of moral ground-they're the ones that use it the most, because you know all painters use it, not not just painters, but also actors, artists, but specifically casting directors, because casting directors-if you're a Jewish casting director in Hollywood, you're and they tell you, all right, cast a guy that's the bank robber. They cast a guy that looks like a bank robber,
00:44:31 right? Yeah.
00:44:32 And so this is this is the godfather of that kind of thinking. Basically, is that people have like a look about them that tells you something, and that you should incorporate that into your art, and casting directors even today will do exactly that, and then they'll tell you that physiognomy is is bullshit. All right, so then we get to this guy. This is Johann Casper Lavatar, and. He wrote the physiognomy fragments. Basically, it's it's it's in French, I believe, but it's been translated in English. I read part of it last night.
00:45:10 He talks about very similar things, but he starts to try to turn it into a science. He starts to try to make it so that you can determine things about people based on on things that not only can you measure, but that you should record and and that would work universally and try to.
00:45:29 He wanted to actually create like a theory of physiognomy, and interestingly enough, he ran into a lot of the same pushback that you would get today, like this is, this would be like he he he was the book that he wrote was a lot of it was a collection of letters and people writing into almost like a like a newsletter.
00:45:52 It almost seemed like it was kind of funny because it was like like a internet forum way before the internet existed because it was like people like you know, sending in like a letter to the editor, kind of a thing to him, and a lot of the pushback was the same exact kind of pushback, where it was either Christian coded in a way, like oh we're all God's children, that kind of a thing, so you can't look at, you know, the the the you know don't judge a book by a cover kind of a thing.
00:46:19 Although this guy was super Christian, like he was like super Christian, like everything that he tried to explain with his physiognomy, he tried to do it through the lens of Christianity, and so a lot of what he misunderstood is that instead of attaching the face to a person's mind, he made a connection between their face and their soul, and so because that's how he understood the world, and so that's you know that would make sense for 1775, and he. But anyway, the pushback was stuff like that you would expect that you're going to have, in fact, the same exact concerns, just like from a 1775 perspective.
00:47:08 So today, people would say, "Well, if you start doing this, then AI is going to like you know judge you for pre-crime before you even commit a crime. But there was exact the exact same concerns existed in 1775 because people writing to him were saying, "Well, if you if you make this into a science, then it's going to be fatalistic. You're going to get these people that look like criminals that you know maybe won't be criminals.
00:47:36 And yeah, and he and he said, "Like, look, it doesn't mean they're going to be criminals. It just means that they're more likely to. It's it's it's the same kind of arguments we get into today when we talk about you know black IQ and and people. But it doesn't
00:47:50 matter because these are instincts that we have naturally. Right, incumbent upon us to try to figure out why why we do these things and what the mechanism behind them is, and that's what they were trying to do,
00:48:01 right? That's all he was trying to do. In fact, he said as much. He said, "Look, I'm not saying that if you measure a face and it turns up to be like 100% criminal face, that means they're 100 going to commit a crime. And he said that it could also be used for self improvement because you could measure your own face, and then realize, okay, well, my face is-I've got a criminal face, so maybe I got it. I should worry about that.
00:48:27 Almost kind of like those people that know they've got a genetic disposition, predisposition for like alcoholism or something, and like you know, like Native Americans, you would you would know that maybe I shouldn't drink because if I
00:48:40 do, I'll I'll
00:48:41 go off the reservation and maybe drunk drive into a family. So that's that's the kind of thing that that he focused on. He seemed like he was pretty fair about it, but it was being almost universally panned at the time, or at least by the majority of people. The the other things he pointed out is that a lot of people had fear about this because it would allow you to more accurately put your finger on maybe the uneasy feeling that you feel when you see someone.
00:49:13 You know, if you were look if you look at someone, you think I don't like their face, but then you can like actually perform some kind of assessment of it and know exact precisely what it is about their face you don't like, then it's almost like to the the person who doesn't who's opposed to this, they see it as almost like a form of like brain raping you, like that they can see like your dark secret.
00:49:35 So there's a lot of people that were afraid of that, like not just the fact that it would possibly lead to pre-crime, but that it would lead to you know that actually knowing what they what they their weaknesses are or knowing what their proclivities were. So that's that was another thing. So it's it's it's all the it's funny because it was like so long ago, and and they're worried about all the exact same thing.
00:50:00 Yep.
00:50:01 All right. Phrenology
00:50:02 is where they get off the rails, though. I will. I will say.
00:50:05 Yeah. So this was. You want to go over the phrenology here?
00:50:11 Sure. This is a friend, Joseph Gall, and so phrenology. For those of you that aren't aware of this, it was a 19th-century idea that you could feel somebody's character or talents by through the bumps on their skull, and there are these really extensive phrenology maps. I think you have one.
00:50:31 Yes, I do. It is right.
00:50:34 I won't be able to read this because I'm blind. Can you read some of these things? I
00:50:38 let me blow it up here. Oh,
00:50:40 it's in German. Never mind.
00:50:41 It's yeah, the Konstantukokensburgen
00:50:48 But I'm pretty sure it's it's personality characteristics like
00:50:52 right,
00:50:52 like some criminal aspects. Oh, I'm looking at one in English. Okay, so we have perfection. There's a perfection part of the brain. There's a human nature and causality part of the brain. There's an aspiring part of the brain. Although, okay, I will say I don't want to be defending phrenology. It's going to discredit the remainder of the stream, which is real sciencey. But we do have.
00:51:20 This is before they knew anything really about the brain and and how it operated. We do have parts of the brain that operate different motor systems, different behavioral problems. It's why people that have horrific TBI have massive personality changes post TBI. That's that's very very common. So there is some method to the madness, I suppose. Like they, they were, they were kind of onto something, but of course, there's no scientific evidence that supports phrenology in a modern sense.
00:51:48 Well, I would say they were onto something in the sense that they can't, they recognized on in an incorrect way, but they recognized the concept that the brain's different bits would be performing different things now. Even though they were way off on like what those things were, I found an English one here.
00:52:08 They were right about the the just the concept of the brain wasn't just some giant big mass that did everything all at once. You know, and so I I would call that an advancement in a way, because a lot of times we make advancements, and we and a lot of it's theory, right? And a lot of the theory ends up being wrong.
00:52:28 But the we make that's how science works, right? You have an observation, you test the observation, and this was, I think, part of the testing process where they're like, oh, you know, I have this theory that that the different parts of the brain do different things, and if you measure the skull and bumps, then you'll be able to figure them out. And then we test that theory, and it didn't work out. So that was just well.
00:52:48 Something that's interesting about this is the combativeness. the The amygdala actually does deal with aggression and combativeness, and that is the approximate location of the amygdala. So, like some of these things, accidentally, of course, are somewhat correct.
00:53:07 Oh, and the funny thing was, the reason why they were measuring the bumps is they thought, like, so, for example, the self-esteem thing at the top, right? They they literally thought that if you're you had like a lot of self-esteem, that that part of your brain would bulge so much that your skull would pop up. No, I'm kidding. I'm not kidding.
00:53:24 That's that's really why they did that. And so they would measure that self-esteem area because they thought that like it would be like all bulbous right there if you had like a big self-esteem.
00:53:36 So yeah, it was pretty stupid. But you know, they they were at least sort of onto something, like on onto a concept with that. All right. So next, the thing that that really helped the science of you know in terms of accuracy and the ability to measure things is you were no longer limited by what some artist drew of you know when they saw a face because that's always going to come with you know even if it's unintentional it's going to come with some bias or just the limitations of the artists themselves so we suddenly could photograph faces so we had the first photograph ever this is the first photograph of of all time and this was taken out the window of French inventor. Let's see here. What's his name? I can't say that. Oh no,
00:54:30 that's
00:54:31 nice foreign something.
00:54:35 Niepce.
00:54:36 There we go. That's close enough. And so we got. That's he just took this picture out his window. It took eight hours to expose it, which is amazing that after an eight-hour exposure that you'd have be able to see anything. But that's why so much is kind of washed out and and and and fucked up because you know eight hours the sun's moving during that eight hours, but the fact.
00:55:00 Even got an image at all. It's pretty impressive. And then in 1839, in a real country where you have with pronounceable names in America, we had Robert Cornelius set up his camera and took the first portrait of a of a person, he stood in front of the the camera, I believe, for a few minutes, and then, like, it's funny because he took the picture himself.
00:55:29 So this is like the first selfie in a way, and the first portrait, because he took the lens cap off the camera, ran over, stood in front of it, and just like froze for like a minute, and then and then ran and covered the the camera up again, and that's that's what he came up with. He looks pretty base though. That's that's like if you're gonna have the like the first picture ever, that looks pretty awesome.
00:55:52 Yeah, he was handsome.
00:55:53 Yeah, so we got like this this debonair bloke in 1839. So what this did is it opened up the the door to no longer having to rely on these drawings where the proportions might be a little bit wrong. You could just snap photos of people, and and it took the time you know component out of it too.
00:56:15 And this gentleman here, Alphonse Bertillon, he actually developed essentially what would become like mugshots because he worked in law enforcement, and he said, "Well, this technology, we could actually have a record now of what the criminals look like, and we can take measurements of like, like you, for example, would measure from like the palm to the tip of the middle finger, because they before this they just had a real hard time because there was no such thing as ID or anything like that, and so if you caught some guy and he was like some wanted rapist or whatever, you'd have to like look literally at a drawing, and be like, "Well, you look kind of like the guy in the drawing. It's like, "Well, so does like anybody, really.
00:57:06 Come on, and I've seen some of these drawings, and so like this made this was a huge step in the right direction. People started to actually trust photography, and that's another aspect too that you know think about. There's a lot of people, for example, that don't trust AI, and people before that that didn't trust the internet, and people before that that didn't trust, you know, video and like any new technology, including photography.
00:57:31 When it first came out, people were like, "No, it steals your soul. You know, it's demons. Probably a lot of Catholics said, and you know, so it's that's the you know that's the kind of thing that that you know you were up against. But when the law enforcement started using it and people started comfortable with it, this was like a turning point when he when this guy Alphonse was using it in a in in in legal proceedings, and so people were beginning to accept it, and so science was also beginning to accept it as a legitimate way of measuring things. Enter Francis Galton, who was Darwin's cousin. Now this is the guy who who came up with the the term eugenics. What'd you groan for?
00:58:19 Well, you don't like.
00:58:22 Well, you don't. Do you do you not believe in evolution?
00:58:24 No, I just keep going.
00:58:27 I keep forgetting you hate science because yeah, is he a is he a demon? Should we should we burn him at the stake? No, but I don't know where that
00:58:35 groan came from. Okay, I don't know where it came from. It just happened. All right, keep going. All
00:58:40 right. No. So he actually came up with the term eugenics, and he wanted to figure out. He thought that there was too much individuality between different people to to be useful because he thought it would be more useful if you could have averages, and in fact, he developed a system that is still used today to come up with averages by taking a bunch of pictures of the kinds of person you wanted, and then putting them on on transparent plates and and stacking them to make averages of people. So, for example, you know this was an average, the person in the middle of a Saxon soldier. Now the funny thing I found out: who does that remind you of?
00:59:32 I don't know.
00:59:34 How about now?
00:59:38 Not got nothing. Oh yeah! Right,
00:59:42 he he's kind of like the he is. He's like the average of the Saxon soldier.
00:59:48 Look at that,
00:59:49 Thomas Sowell is he he you know he he matches up like pretty exactly.
00:59:58 Does look just like him. That's true. That guy, I've always thought he has a face you can trust. Yeah,
01:00:02 he's got a he's a true Saxon soldier. That guy. Yeah, so I thought that was because as soon as I saw that, I was like, that looks familiar. War, and then I was like, oh, that checks out. So anyway, that's what he was doing. Is he was trying to come up with averages, and it's kind of funny because I was reading about it, and he he did averages of not just soldiers, but of sick people, and he commented in his notes that the most successful average, because you got to remember, the more variation between people, the less success, the blurrier it's going to be, right? And so, if you have a lot of people that look the same, the same can you? you guess what that's an average of?
01:00:45 Jews.
01:00:46 Jews, absolutely. So the most successful composite that he made was of Jews, where he layered them all on top of each other, and it was just like the sharpest image he'd ever came up with. He's just like damn Jews all look the fucking same. It's fucking crazy.
01:01:04 Yeah.
01:01:04 So so that's his that's his composite of Jews, and the funny thing was this this is something I tweeted out yesterday, where Sacha Baron Cohen and Adam Sandler basically look like the same. I mean, we composite layer those two fuckers, and it would be, you know, basically the same fucking guy. And a lot of Jews, especially as they age, they just start looking like the same person.
01:01:29 Yeah, yeah. I wonder how the genetic drift would treat that composite today, because that is not what the modern Jew looks like.
01:01:35 No, no. There's been some changes, and this was a specific population of Jews. In fact, I think I might be able to tell you what specific it was. It was. It looks like there's
01:01:46 some major brown admixture going on.
01:01:49 No, no, this is the average Jewish schoolboys in London.
01:01:52 Oh, oh, oh. So it's an age thing.
01:01:57 Yeah, so it could be. Okay. So that's that's the average London Jew, and they all they made the clip. He said it was his his most successful composite.
01:02:08 Interesting.
01:02:10 Yeah, and then so then this is actually Darwin. Everyone uses like the beard picture, and I thought I was tired of the beard picture. Let's just use like a a younger one. So Darwin also got involved with this. He started looking at, you know, looking at at at bones in the face as to a clue to you know the character that you might have, and and realizing that there should be a he he correctly assigned. a difference between physiognomy and patho patho non or how would you say that pathonomy pathonomy physiognomy and path it's I'll highlight it on the notes there you see that? I guess that'd be pathon pathon patho
01:03:04 pathonomy
01:03:05 pathonomy. All right, so between physiognomy and pathonomy, and pathonomy would be that when you make expressions with your face because you are experiencing emotion, and so that he he was you know a stickler for you know you have to have a neutral expression on your face in order to measure any of these things with any kind of accuracy, and because if you don't you know you're gonna be just be measuring their emotion in that moment, right?
01:03:36 And so in 1872 he published the expression of the emotions in man and animals, because he was also measuring. This so these are kind of hilarious, like the guy and the cat. They're they're supposed to have like the same emotion in that moment, and so he was also he was saying that basically animals had expressions also, and that's true. Like I can I can look at a cat, and there's not a whole lot of you know there's not like the the same range of emotion that you would see in a human face, but you can tell definitely between happy cat and pissed off cat.
01:04:17 Yeah,
01:04:17 you know, and dogs are kind of the same way. There's a there is not a you know it's not a wide range of emotion, but there's enough to where you can look at a dog and know if it's pissed off or not, and so that's the kind of thing that he was trying to measure in all animals, and discussed in that book. You know, for example, a dog will bear its teeth, And also, some some humans do the same thing, and bear their
01:04:47 teeth.
01:04:47 Yeah, bear their teeth when they're when they're angry. They'll they'll curl up their their lips and show their canine teeth when they're trying to transmit like some kind of aggressive signal.
01:05:00 The people in front of them, and so he talks about how these were these expressions were basically useful when we were as we evolved, and and for the same reason why they're useful for dogs, because it helps them avoid injury. Because if a dog can get the same thing done by just looking really mean that it could do by actually engaging in a fight that might kill it, then you know there's the survival rate goes up for everybody.
01:05:30 Not not just for that that dog, but the dog that it was going to be aggressive with. It the the problem gets resolved just simply through intimidation with facial expressions.
01:05:42 Yeah,
01:05:42 and so he talks about that and how humans are the same way and for the same reasons, and they actually they got into like zapping people's faces, like their facial muscles, trying to like create different expressions in people with through electrocuting their face, basically.
01:06:05 Couldn't they just do it with emotional manipulation? Well, that couldn't have been useful data.
01:06:10 Well, no, because they wanted they wanted to be able to with precision, you know, like control individual muscles and see like what muscles work.
01:06:19 Because the way what they would do is they would they would electrocute your face, and then take a a picture of it with with that muscle electrocuted, and then they would send the pictures to for a a basically an audience of people to write down what emotion they thought they were seeing with that expression, and so they have like this data, like okay, well apparently when this muscle is raised, then people, most people perceive that as as fear or you know whatever, and so that's basically what his research was was trying to determine based on where your muscles were moving, what kind of what what how people would perceive that, like what kind of muscle patterns would would be signaling what emotions or what kind of thoughts.
01:07:09 So that was you know that that's the you know quick and dirty version of what Darwin was doing. All right, then we got this guy. This is Cesare Lambroso. Now, this guy, he let's see here, yeah, he wrote the Criminal Man, and he sold the idea that people were born either criminals or not criminals, which to again to a certain degree is kind of true. Like he's on the right track, right?
01:07:52 That this behavior is genetic, and of course they had no understanding of genetics. I mean, this was in the 1870s, and so, but he had the idea that you know it was it was heritable, and that because it was heritable, and because it was kind of predestined in in a way the way he viewed it, that you should essentially assess people, and this was you know this I think rolled into the eugenics movement a little bit, where you should assess people based on how criminal their face is, and you know maybe preemptively, you know sterilize or you know something like that.
01:08:34 Jesus Christ! Yeah, I'm not gonna say I'm opposed to that. Look around us. Look around us and see what's happened as a result of us not doing these kinds of things.
01:08:46 That is insane. Well, it's an insane perspective to preemptively sterilize people based on facial structure, and I believe in physiognomy. Well, I'm
01:08:56 just saying, you know, like yeah, I'm not totally against it. I think. Oh
01:09:00 my God!
01:09:01 I think there's some, you know. I think that there should be a threshold. We could be loose with a threshold, you know. But there are some people where it's just like, you know, even if you're not a criminal, you're ugly as shit and probably shouldn't have kids. Like there's, you know, and and just the fact there's a higher chance that you're going to have crime too. I mean, you have a
01:09:19 high mutational load. Let's just not have
01:09:22 any more people that look like you. You know, let's just let's just limit the amount of people. And who pray tell
01:09:30 would be the arbiter of such a such a decision?
01:09:33 Well, like I said, you. Well, no, no. I like. I I I think if you were to do something like that fairly, you'd have to have like you'd have to have some pretty concrete evidence that, and pretty again, like the threshold would have to be pretty loose, or pretty. You'd have to make it in such a way to where certainly you would be sterilizing some innocent people, but you know the whole if you want to make an omelet thing, you know where it's okay, you know. That that's if you could prove to me that you know only like one out of 1000 people we sterilize are aren't going to be criminals, I'd be like that's acceptable. That's acceptable to me if you can. Well, this Chinese
01:10:13 study that we're going to talk about was 90%
01:10:16 Right. Well, that that's my point. You know, so it's like you know, it's not like you can't do it. So he came up with that way of of thinking, and this is where apparently a lot of people get this. He created a lot of the well, the reaction you had. A lot of people were like, "Oh God, this physiotomy stuff's leading somewhere dark, let's all let's all let niggs breed like rabbits instead, because I I feel bad for like the one guy out of 1000 that just is ugly as shit and wouldn't actually hurt anybody.
01:10:54 We're all God's children after all. No, never said that. So anyway, so that's that's basically you know what it was. So there there and then we have this. This goes into so here's some of his his drawings. I don't think they're in English though, but these are some of the different criminals he saw.
01:11:19 Yeah, that guy's a criminal
01:11:20 right there for
01:11:21 sure.
01:11:22 Criminal, the guy. Are you telling me you wouldn't? The guy on the right, you wouldn't sterilize that guy.
01:11:28 Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'd sterilize that guy.
01:11:30 All right, and maybe the guy on the left, but definitely the guy on the right, and the guy on the right here. Yeah. See, I think. See, this is this is like the the good twin, evil twin. I think if you look at this,
01:11:45 oh god, that guy, the frontal lobe has to go.
01:11:48 Yeah, yeah, that guy has to go. So yeah, see, they you know they had the right idea. They they were going for the right demographic.
01:11:58 You're onto something. All
01:12:01 right, so we get to this guy. This is Ernst Kretschmeyer, and this guy, this is in 1921. He wrote a book that the Nazis liked called "Physique and Character, and it was a German attempt to put psychiatry on a body chart, so he was basically saying that your your mental state would somehow manifest in in your body and and vice versa. So he would separate by you know how how much muscle mass you had, if you were barrel chested, and then tie it to you know your ability or how hard you were, like how susceptible you were to illness, you know that sort of a thing. Would certain body types, for example, he was wanting to study?
01:12:59 Would they perhaps indicate that you might have schizophrenia if you were built a certain way. So he he was more, you know, kind of. I would say this was was a little out on a limb. He was putting way too much. I mean, he again, it's he was he had the right idea in that it's not just the face because it's because it's not. It's like the mutational load is most obvious in the face because that's what humans are more designed to look for differences in, right? Because that's how we identify each other, and that's how we den.
01:13:35 You know, all animals, in fact, you know, look at each other in the eyes. You know, that's just what how we we operate, and so his theory was basically that oh, it's actually it moves the whole body is an indicator, but I think he went a little fucking crazy with it and was like this kind of body that's a schizophrenic body right there, if I ever saw one, and however this guy, this is William Sheldon, and he got he took some of those ideas, but but made them less German and retarded, and Americanized them a little bit. And in fact, a lot of his work is still used today. A lot of people know about endomorph, mesomorph, ectomorph,
01:14:18 anecdomorph, yeah,
01:14:19 yeah. So this is he's the guy that came up with that. He came up with the different body types, and also connecting body types to, you know, to to hormones as well, which which is true. So he he talks about how you know mesomorph or the endomorph is soft and round. Mesomorph has bone and muscle. Ectomorph is long, linear, skinny. He said that that also was tied to temperament to some extent, which you could say it might be. Like I'm sure there's like a connection.
01:14:57 Yeah.
01:14:57 Right. Right. And and you could say stuff. Like that, or or even just like a someone who's going to be more aggressive is more likely to be a mesomorph than say an endomorph or or or ectomorph, and so and that's because they probably have higher testosterone, you know that sort of a thing, and so he he looked at stuff like that and was trying to connect body types to hormones like testosterone, and also tie that to perhaps their behavior.
01:15:32 But this would be basically the last group of men who were even somewhat accepted by by to any degree mainstream the mainstream science of the time because it it would fall out of fashion, but you know like the fact the matter is it doesn't change the fact that everyone still uses it every day subconsciously you know, and
01:16:03 consciously. I mean, if we're going to do some things subconsciously, we we should know why we're doing this. We should at least try to understand. And I think that we're failing to do that now, especially with the rejection of racial cues and and what and and how that dictates behavior. There's an outright rejection of this in a way that there probably wasn't even in the past, which has made people's gut instincts a little bit more scientifically based, which is shocking, and we see this all all over the modern era.
01:16:33 Well, right, and there's some obvious examples where where we actually you know we do assess people based on looks that it's socially okay, right? So, for example, if you have crushing thyroid face, apparently no, no. If
01:16:49 you have Cushing's, if you have Cushing's disease, or or if you have a thyroid problem, if you have a thyroid problem, there was this guy whose name I'm gonna bring a picture of this. He plays Igor in oh my in young Frankenstein, but he had a thyroid problem, and it causes it causes bulging eyes and things like that. So there's a feature. Oh yeah, I know you're
01:17:10 talking about. I know you're talking about
01:17:11 for excessive thyroid production, and acromegaly is another one. I believe that's when you have a bone plate growth disorder that makes you huge. I think Andre the Giant had it. Yeah, coaching syndrome makes your face all puffy. Moonface
01:17:29 and midgets all have like that look. Look kind of the same. What's his name? Marty Feldman.
01:17:34 Marty Feldman. Yeah, yeah.
01:17:36 I'll bring it up here.
01:17:38 And I was reading the C endocardin disorder. Yeah, yeah. There we go. Oh Jesus. Yeah.
01:17:51 Yeah. I forgot he was how pronounced that was.
01:17:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So doctors, of course, and the average individual can look at somebody and assess their genetic fitness and if they have a serious disease, and and we just do it, we just look at like you can tell like something's up with that guy,
01:18:09 right?
01:18:09 Something, and it was hyperthyroidism or hypo hyperthyroidism, I believe. And I was reading about this. Now doctors have developed AI to recognize more rare genetic syndromes in people that might have more subtle effects. And like one of the first things that you do when you have a baby is they assess the nasolabial labial bridge or whatever that is called, and they assess the distance between the eyes to make sure that that your child doesn't have undiagnosed Down syndrome.
01:18:38 I mean, they they do this all the time in medicine, yeah, they do this all the time in medicine, and it's totally scientifically supported, and it really is part of physiognomy because you're recognizing disease and disease progression based on facial features, and and sometimes those things do affect personality, right? So if you're hyperthyroid, you can have these bouts of just incredible rage and impulsivity and things like that. So some of these disorders are obviously affecting behavior. So how much of a leap is that really?
01:19:16 Right. No, it's it's not because the face is the. It's just a a another part of the body. It's just the one. It's a part of the body that we're very good at assessing.
01:19:26 Yeah, yeah. And everybody does this with mate with mate selection anyway, which is just natural eugenics. And Edward Dutton talks about this all the time. Like if you're looking for genetic fitness and low mutational load, you want to look for facial symmetry. You want to see how close they are to the mean of their ancestors.
01:19:45 You want to assess your disgust response when you look at their face. You want to look at their teeth. You want to see if they have good nutrition, the color of their sclera in their eyes, the clarity of their eyes, the the how full their hair is, things like that. We all. Do this innately when we are when we are practicing mate selection because that's what makes us sexually aroused. So you know, I fail to see how any of this is different than what we're doing naturally.
01:20:12 Well, and I think the science would have progressed had we not had World War II, because World War II, with all the you know the anti-Hitler propaganda trying to say that you know their genetics didn't really mean anything in terms of behavior that there was no master race and like all that all this eugenic stuff is crazy and and it's going to lead to killing all the Jews if we start thinking that Behavior is biological, and so yeah, that's it's that's basically unfortunately what happened was all this all this science that would have because it's primitive.
01:20:54 A lot of this stuff was primitive back then, but so was a lot of science. A lot of the way that we understood the world was very primitive. I mean, if you don't believe me, look at someone like the you know when they were first talking about, or read like an old science fiction novel like Journey to the Center of the Earth, or or when they first were writing books about going out into space and they were you know like the moon made out of cheese and stuff like that. Like it's we didn't know what the fuck was going on, and we were just kind of making it up as we went along, and that's what they were doing with this, just like anything else.
01:21:24 And we have to lay that basis before science becomes more specific and robust. So, you know, this was a necessary process that we had to go through to somehow end up in a worse place.
01:21:37 Yeah. So you want to go on the? You want to do the next? Sure. You want to
01:21:44 talk about gaydar? Gadar. Yeah. So there's a lot of evidence that maybe I should just talk about this study right now on sexual orientation. So you can you can look at a man. Every woman that's dated in the modern era has has really honed this skill. You can look at a man and hear his voice and see what his body habitus is like, his walk, his gait, and you can tell whether or not he has genetic fitness to breed.
01:22:16 And a lot of that has to do with things with testosterone-induced facial structures, like men with high T, they have strong jaws, they have strong upper arms, they have you know nice calves, they have big feet and hands, and we all recognize we all recognize these. So there was a study on dating site faces, and people were able to tell sexual orientation 81% for men and 71% for women based on one image, and 91% and 83% respectively based on five images. So this was the forced choice accuracy.
01:22:55 But humans were better than average; they were the 61% versus 54% and a lot of that is grooming tech. Yeah, that guy's totally straight. A lot of it's grooming techniques, but like if this guy had a neutral face, and look how small his hands are, right? Like if this guy had a neutral face, I still would be like, that guy's a homosexual. I can tell by his eyes. I can tell by his teeth, the shape of his mouth. I can tell by the softness of his face. Like, and some of these are characteristics based on how he's choosing. I think you called it leaking. How he's choosing to present the world. He's like leaking his gayness. Right. He's exaggerating.
01:23:37 That's the thing. Is even even the the person. It's not just the people observing is the person who's being observed who knows that this data is being collected and so they purposely exaggerate the things that would signal in this case his gain is so he's purposely doing the little thing with his wrist making his wrist look limp and displaying you could even say the fact that he has small hands. You know, he he is actively, even though it's all subconscious, he's actively signaling, "I'm a faggot, as loud as he possibly can. And
01:24:14 a lot of this, I believe that homosexuality is predominantly, well, not even predominantly. I think that there's probably at a 50% influence of environmental factors because so many gay men have been molested, which is obviously an environmental factor. But there is a lot of evidence that estrogenic in utero environments contribute to homosexuality, and at the opposite of the spectrum, testosterone-rich environments contribute to lesbianic behavior, like if you look at the two four digit ratio in lesbians, it's considerably higher. That's your finger. I have actually an unfortunate like lesbianic digit ratio. Maybe I shouldn't have brought that up.
01:24:54 You got lesbo hands.
01:24:55 Lesbo hands, but it does suggest that you had a testosterone. Rich environment, which does to some degree dictate sexual orientation in future. So that that's also environmental, though that's not a genetic component. Well, I would people with gay with gay family members also do have a higher rate of homosexuality as well.
01:25:14 Well, I would say what it is is it's it's like alcoholism. There's a genetic predisposition, but if you never drink alcohol, then you're never gonna be an alcoholic. But if you have that predisposition, then you get
01:25:27 raped by your uncle. Then right,
01:25:29 right. No, that's basically what
01:25:32 it is. Yep.
01:25:33 There's that the lesbian hands, right?
01:25:35 Yeah. Yep. I wish I hadn't talked about that because I'm all self conscious about my my digit ratio.
01:25:41 Your Lesbo hands. That's that's that's that's your new name around here. These parts. Ah, good old. Here comes old Lesbo hands with her nig nose. No, no.
01:25:54 There was this other study that I wanted to talk about. I just um, I just linked it here so you could pull up some of the pictures. But this is a fascinating study. So this Canadian photographer, and I, you might have seen this circulating on X or IG, but he finds people that look like they, a lot of them look like identical twins, like unrelated people that just have an incredible resemblance to one another, and he's put them in AI, and some of them have scored levels that are as high as monozygotic twins, which is just incredible. I don't think we can use the Asian ones, though. That's not fair, right?
01:26:31 That's true.
01:26:32 And what he discovered, and this actually led to a lot of genetic research, is that these random people share a a concentrated set of genetic variants, so it's not so concentrated that they have the same type of thing as like their Lesbo hands. Yeah, see,
01:26:51 some Lesbo hands right there.
01:26:53 It's just got a sketch digit ratio also, but it's it's close enough that they share they they have strong shared ancestry, and as such, they discovered that there were a lot of shared personality and behavioral traits. If you guys remember, we did an episode on the three on those on those triplets. What was that called? Three separate. Damn, I can't even remember. But but these triplets. Oh, I talk about the Jews
01:27:20 that were separate, yeah,
01:27:22 yeah, yeah. So they they were identical triplets, and they all shared, of course, incredible personality traits, behavioral patterns, and things like that. But they found something similar with these people. They found that they were much more likely to be smokers.
01:27:35 That their marital status and their choice of mate were much more likely to be similar, so I think that something that this tells us is that overlapping SNPs, they call it SMPs, they do dictate, and of course we knew this on this show because I think that we're we're amateur geneticists. They do strongly dictate behavior and things like criminality, and that's that can be discerned just based on photos of people that look that look like one another that have no known shared ancestry. This one was very good. Those those guys look a lot alike.
01:28:12 Yeah, they also look super gay.
01:28:14 Real gay. I bet I bet you a million dollars. I bet they're both
01:28:18 gay. Yeah, my gaydar is going off like, oh, you know what? I just saw a external. I think that's a eyebrow ring, isn't it? They're gay. He's gay. Yeah. Oh, you know the nasty thing is, you know they they fucking did it too.
01:28:35 Ew! Come on. You
01:28:37 you know they did. They're like, oh jeez, you look just like me. What are you doing after the photo shoot?
01:28:46 If you met, if you were a gay man, you met another gay man that looked just like you, and you had any narcissistic quality. Like you'd have to have like every
01:28:52 like every fag.
01:28:54 Yeah. Gee, I hope another study. I hope you tell me to
01:28:59 go fuck myself again because I will.
01:29:02 Gross, damn it! We should talk about this one about political orientation too, because this is this is strongly linked to the hormonal milieu that we that we were talking about. So, um, this researcher looked at 1.1 million naturalistic faces. There were 72% liberal-conservative pair accuracy.
01:29:26 So that means that they looked at faces, and with a much higher than than average degree, they they were able to assess that somebody was liberal, somebody was conservative, and a lot of that has to do with lower, lower, lower jaw prominence, and that's a testosterone thing. So it's it stands to reason that if you're conservative, if you want autonomy, if you believe in yourself and your ability to make your own way without government intervention, that you. Would have a higher testosterone environment, and that you'd just be a more masculine man. I don't know what the conclusions about women were. Do you remember? Perhaps
01:30:10 they had less bow hands, probably. I'm
01:30:11 never going to put that down. Yeah, and then they were able to do the same thing in other studies with personality. I mean, this was not the data's not super robust, but it was still better than average. That you would able you would be able to look at real life photos, and you would be able to tell if somebody had the big five, if they if they were conscientious, modest, real. Like you you could you could tell to some degree, if people had certain personality characteristics based on their facial structures, the big one-the one that that we talked about before even doing the show-because I've been referencing this study for years.
01:30:54 So in 2016, and this has been largely memory hold. Like if you if you put this into Grok, they'll be like, there is no scientific basis. This is not a peer-reviewed study, but it is is fascinating nonetheless. I'm not sure that peer review means anything anymore. You can get anything peer-reviewed, but a Chinese scientist trained several machine learning class of classifiers, and they had about 2000 photos of Chinese men with no facial hair, no marking, so they were able to kind of eliminate that confounding variable.
01:31:26 And 730 of the images were convicted criminals or wanted suspects, and the rest were just scraped from the web, confirmed non-criminals. And the models that they designed, they were able to distinguish between the two groups with 90% accuracy. and what they concluded from that was that there's a greater upper lip curvature. There's shorter distance between the inner corners of the eyes.
01:31:51 So I always talk. We we talked about neonatally and how I think that women are more attractive when they're like a touch wall-eyed. You may disagree, but having eyes-what we can agree on is that having eyes close together is like possibly the worst facial feature that any person can have. It's so unattractive, and in this instance, at least in Asians or the Chinese, it does indicate with a high degree of accuracy criminality and smaller nose to mouth corner angles, so like that.
01:32:25 There's the close together eyes of the Jew.
01:32:28 Yeah, see, but it's just incredible that that with AI training that that they could do this. And of course, the concern there is that they're going to be able to predict criminality. But the truth of the matter is they can. They can. They they absolutely can. Now, 10% of those people are going to be maligned, of course. Ah, like I said,
01:32:49 omelet, omelet. That is
01:32:50 too high a margin for that to be an acceptable social strategy. Well, how
01:32:55 about how about how about we let the Chinese do it first? See how it goes. Yeah,
01:32:58 yeah. Let it. But you said yourself, one in 1000 would be an acceptable margin. 10%
01:33:04 yeah. That's
01:33:05 that's crazy. That's that's well. Well, I'll tell you
01:33:07 what. If if you could find like, I don't know, I might I might be I might be able to be swayed. It all depends on on. I mean, are they ugly too? I mean, are there other reasons to sterilize them? Yeah, like maybe maybe this is just one thing, one metric out of like a lot of metrics that are used to determine whether or not we sterilize them.
01:33:31 Oh my lord!
01:33:33 Like what? Yeah, what if what if like okay, we won't just sterilize you automatically because you look like a criminal, but you also have webbed feet, so okay, all right, but something like that.
01:33:46 We live in an era of plastic surgery and looks maxing, and all of these things that are confounding variables that will make such a a decision just impossible.
01:33:58 No, no, you do it when they're infants.
01:34:00 Oh my God! We can't even let people get to adulthood.
01:34:09 Nah, you're just like ah, you're gonna be a criminal. Put him in the pit.
01:34:15 Oh jeez, we should talk about this looks maxing thing because I think to some degree it's a good thing. I know how you. No,
01:34:24 it's it's not a good thing. What are you talking about? It's a good thing.
01:34:26 To some degree, I think that that looks maxing. When people say looks maxing colloquially, they don't have access to resources like clavicular. They're not getting designer rhinoplasty and like going on, you know, testosterone, doing all this other shit. When I hear people talk about looks maxing, they're just eating right and going to the gym and like doing basic skincare and stuff. And injecting peptides,
01:34:49 no bones, hitting themselves in the face with a hammer.
01:34:53 Well, let's talk about where it crosses over, right? So if you're going to do anything that fundamentally changes your facial. Structure. I think that in terms of being able to recognize genetic fitness in another individual, yeah, you're lying.
01:35:06 Like it's funny because a lot of these same guys will will be angry that women wear makeup, and then they as they hit themselves in the fucking face with a hammer to change their face. It's like come on, that's
01:35:15 definitely true. But just going to the gym, like lifting weights, you're not. No, that's that's not looks
01:35:20 maxing though. That's just that is
01:35:21 that is absolutely looks maxing.
01:35:23 That's just that's just being in shape. That's just like normal, like
01:35:26 like weight training and things like that. Everybody classifies that as looks maxing. What about extensive skincare routines in a man?
01:35:34 Well, how extensive we talking? Because there there's like a there's a point at which it just becomes super gay.
01:35:40 16 step American psycho level. Yeah, that's just that's
01:35:44 just gay. That that's not looks maxing. That's that's fag maxing.
01:35:48 Yeah, I mean clavicular obviously has gone
01:35:51 homosexual too far. Absolutely.
01:35:53 Yeah, the irony of that is this is that he looked way better before he did all this stuff. Now he looks way winkier, way less readable. His nose job was such a disaster.
01:36:04 Yeah, he looks weird.
01:36:06 Yeah,
01:36:06 he looks like uncanny valley. Like weird. Like he looks like like I'm reminded of like that old Primus video why known as Brown Beaver, where they're like all wearing those plastic suits, like mannequins, or those old Duracell commercials.
01:36:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, it's not just men. The plastic surgery culture with women is just out of out of control. Like I sent you that video yesterday of that chick, that Jewish woman with the biggest nose I've ever seen. Oh yeah,
01:36:34 I forgot to tell. Ending
01:36:35 up with like the perfect little doll nose, and I'm like, I know you want to blend into society, you subversive bitch, but you you cannot do this. I mean, to her credit, she did put it online, so she's not going to be able to hide her lack of genetic fitness to a potential mate. But it's just too big of a lie. It's like way too big of a lie.
01:36:59 When did you send this? I can't find it now.
01:37:02 Yesterday, I think I sent it to you in Telegram.
01:37:09 See it.
01:37:10 Just Control F Instagram. This chick, she has to be Jewish. I actually am not entirely sure, but I think that it's it's impossible that she's not Jewish.
01:37:21 No results.
01:37:22 Oh, I don't know. Sorry, sorry about that. Anyway, you can you can go on Instagram. There are millions of these of these videos of Jewish women getting. And then, like we referenced before, in in South Korea especially, this is a terrible problem. I saw this picture once of all of these South Korean beauty contestants, and every single one of them, not just because of the Asian factor, but they were indecipherable from one another because they had had all of them had had the same A-line jaw surgery and rhinoplasty and everything like that.
01:37:53 Like, how are men supposed to assess a woman's genetic fitness and mutational load from facial symmetry if she's had extensive plastic surgery? I mean, it just seems, it just seems impossible, right? So yeah, anything that's going to make the the the future fertility situation worse, I think, has got to be a bad thing on a societal level, and that includes looks acting beyond doing the basic stuff like eating well and working out.
01:38:19 Well, it's it's just it's creating more dysgenic people because it's like when you have you know in fact Dutton even talks about this where you have you know genetically unfit people who are kept alive by Western medicine who would have died like in when they were infants grow up and then because they are dysgenic would will most likely pair up with someone else who's also dysgenic, who also wouldn't have survived in you know older conditions, and so then you mix those two mutants together and you make like some super fucking mutant, and it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse, and so like that's that's essentially what's going on, and and if you have now at least in those instances, that kind of breeding behavior would be limited to, like it would it would be, well, I mean, it'd be limited to the lower classes.
01:39:12 I guess you would be able to say that way. Whereas someone that would normally only be able to find another dysgenic person to breed with if they have a lot of surgeries, will now suddenly be able to pull their dysgenic genes up to an at least above their station, shall you say, and and spread their their bad genes with with well superior genes. So they they're actually ruining, like at a faster rate, the the better genes by breeding with with people who wouldn't have normally have picked them if they just looked at them the way they were before.
01:39:53 Well, also we couldn't do this if if in your in your plan in your eugenics plan you couldn't assess. Physical attractiveness in infants, either because people go through such a wide range of attractiveness in their lives. Like, well, I know people in in high school that were just total dogs, and now they're super
01:40:12 right. No, but but I'm saying like I think there's I think AI would be able to figure it out, right? Like I think that if you were to feed, if you were to train AI, like show AI, for example, here's a million photos of people as adults and their baby pictures. AI would be able to say, okay, well now I know what this, what babies like this we're gonna end up looking like. That's true though.
01:40:39 I hate this. I I hate this so much.
01:40:42 I'm just saying, like in a perfect world, this is what we would be doing. Well, we should
01:40:49 talk a little bit about.
01:40:51 I found the nose. I I don't think it's it wasn't. It's not as horrendous as the one that I because I remember you did send me one. I don't know why it's not here, but this one is almost as bad. Let's see here. This is
01:41:07 that's it. That's the one I sent you.
01:41:08 No, the one you sent me is worse than this
01:41:10 one. Nope, that's the one I sent you. Ah,
01:41:13 I don't think so. Yeah, that's that's got to be Jewish though, right?
01:41:23 Yeah, this is for sure. That's the one I sent you. Yeah. No,
01:41:25 no, the other one.
01:41:26 Yes, yes, it is.
01:41:27 No, it's not.
01:41:29 Or maybe it is. I don't know. I don't even. Now you're messing with my. I don't even know anymore. I don't even know what's true anymore. She should be forced to to the rest of her life, walk around like that.
01:41:42 Walk around like that, yeah.
01:41:43 So just cover it up. So anyway, she has to look like. Look at that
01:41:47 result. Yeah, it's an excellent result. I mean, you can tell she's had a nose job. There
01:41:52 it is.
01:41:53 Yeah. Yep. Peak of the week. How did they reshape her nostrils like that? That plastic surgeon is an artist. Incredible, they were able to do that. But yeah, I mean, in the event that she could lie about this, which she hasn't, and then she breeds with somebody that is at the station of the woman on the right, like what do what what would you even do about your kid? I mean, you you feel so betrayed.
01:42:24 Well, there's actually lawsuits in in Korea from yeah. At least I remember a few years back there was that woman that radically altered her face, and then they got married or she got married to some guy, and their kids were like fucking monster babies, and he's like, "How the fuck did this happen? And then, and then they found out that she was just a hideous monster that had had a lot of surgery.
01:42:48 Good lord, that seems like a fair lawsuit to me.
01:42:51 Yeah, I think so.
01:42:54 Yikes! What is an excellent result, I I will say. Before we get to supers, I did want to have a little discussion about why we are rejecting this as a society. We talked about it briefly, but I think we can get into it a little bit more. I think part of this it pains me to say is the Christian perspective that all souls are equal, right? But there's a rejection that your soul has any relation to your body, which I think that anybody that has any intuition, like if if your soul is not related to your body, then why is it housed in your body?
01:43:30 I think that that runs counter to the intuition of of Christians. It runs counter to the intuition of atheists. I think that we can all see that that there is an interaction there, at least in some way. I mean, not to say that it's it's totally perfect. I'm sure there are a lot of really ugly people with with fantastic souls, but there is there's an interaction going on here, and we can only see each other's bodies and each other's faces.
01:43:55 So we have evolved to recognize personality traits and threat levels, and and kindness and violence in the face of another individual and why would we want to stop doing that? Well, the reason that we would want to stop doing that is that that you know they want to keep us in this multicultural hellscape. But people shouldn't be trying to subvert their subconscious.
01:44:20 Like if you if you don't trust your gut instinct, and there's tons of data on this, that people's gut instincts are generally right, and they they perform well. And if you can cultivate that in any given individual, it's it's a lifetime of making better decisions, making better decisions not just for themselves but for society. So anything that runs counter to that is obviously going to be detrimental long term, long term to the human race.
01:44:44 Yeah, it's it's always blown my mind that that this this whole don't judge your don't judge a book by by its cover because it's like why would they put a cover on the book then? Like that's that that that's what it's for. Like I that's like saying not don't judge. A movie by its movie poster. It's like okay, it's not like watching the movie, but like that's what it's for. It's so I can look at the poster and make an assessment about whether or not I want to watch that fucking movie. And and book covers are doing the exact same thing.
01:45:12 So I've never understood like why that everyone thinks that so clever. It's really not. But I, it's also the fact that you need to, you know, this is the the funny thing is people try to act as if, oh, racism is taught, and like you know, kids don't don't have any kind of intuition when it comes to this sort of thing. It's like no, they do. I mean, maybe experience increases it, but if if that was the case, you wouldn't have to be constantly hammering children with messages like that, which I was hammered with when I was younger.
01:45:44 I remember the teacher constantly telling us like all these different stories about you know, and think about all the different stories that are that are like made for children that are like that. The ugly duckling, you know, the Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. Like, there's all these stories that tell you that oh, you know the the big obvious thing that's on their face. Ignore that. They're actually awesome, you know.
01:46:05 Right, right. Oh, I did have two studies about this that I I failed to mention, but um, there was a study on babies and and and how they feel when they're looking at adults. So infants show a sensitivity to male and female attractiveness and trustworthiness like cues because the amygdala responds. You have like a like a disgust response to untrustworthy looking faces, and that that kept us alive.
01:46:36 It's it's a way to detect threaten allies, and then there was another one: studies on babies choosing models versus mothers independently. Infants from the first days of life took longer look they look longer at faces of adults that rate as attractive than faces rated as unattractive, and this holds true for female adult faces, male faces, infant faces, faces of different races, and yeah, and in some of these cases, they would look longer at the model than at their unattractive mother.
01:47:08 Right. Yeah, babies preferred
01:47:10 somewhat astounding. Yeah.
01:47:12 Yeah. Yeah. Babies preferred pretty models over their mother because they're they're they're programmed to be attracted to attractive people.
01:47:20 Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely. I have a question for you, Devon. Okay, when you meet somebody, walk me through what you are trying to discern about who they are based on their physical appearance.
01:47:36 I guess it's one of those things that you don't really think about it. It's so automatic. Let's
01:47:41 try it. Let's do a thought experiment.
01:47:43 Well, I'll tell you, there is there's like a process in your head that assesses people, and it's kind of running the background. You're not actually focused on it, but you'll you know you'll you'll assess a sexual attractiveness if it's a girl. You'll assess threat level if it's a guy, and I think that's probably the basic way. Like if I were to walk through it, like say a mall, and I'm just walking through a crowd of people, there is a process in my brain that is doing a minimally yes no in terms of what I do, or and then there is another process going? Yes, no. As in, could I take him? You know.
01:48:26 Okay. And
01:48:27 like, and that's just ticking away, and you're not thinking about it. Like, you really aren't aren't like you know sitting there focused on that. But it's happening, right? And and that's I would just say that's just constantly running in the background. And then, obviously, if you focus in on someone, you might go further with it. But I think that's what how most men probably operate. Some version of that.
01:48:48 That's true of women too. So I think when I when I see people, I first assess whether or not they're a threat to my kids,
01:48:57 right?
01:48:57 And so I'll look for like sketchiness Markers are they like engaged in solitary behavior? Like the other day at the park, I got so sketched out because there was a guy just standing outside of his car smoking, but like for way too long. He was wearing like a dark hoodie and his beard was all scraggly. I like ushered the kids out of the park because of that. I was like, nope.
01:49:20 And then it's things like if you're if you're meeting a guy that you are assessing for dating potential, it's like is he dressed nicely but not so nice that he might be a faggot? Is he is he looks maxing to an excessive degree because that's going to show a a high degree of neuroticism and narcissism. You want kind of like the standard dad type, you know? Right. Like that's what I was looking for when I was dating. Like, are you are you gonna ruin my life with your weird workout routine, or are you gonna be morbidly obese? And then there's a wide range of what's fine in between.
01:50:00 Right,
01:50:01 for women though, I don't, I don't really think about it that much.
01:50:04 Well, yeah, I think that everyone always does that, and you're, you're, you're even like assessing, you know, that's, that's how. Think of it this way. Like, there's that that meme that's on Twitter, like I'm sure you've seen, or there's the the blonde starry eyed girl that's a barista, and and they always say, "Oh, look, she's a barista. But you know, this wide-set-eyed, ugly freak that Nick knows over here thinks is attractive, Zandya is is an actress.
01:50:35 You know, and it's like, no, you know, that video got recorded because some guy was just getting his, you know, latte or whatever. Was just like, holy shit, because there's just like you'll have. And by the way, that'll happen sometimes when like the signals are so strong, you know, for like what you're subconsciously looking for. To where like if you're a guy, you will do like a double take because you'll be like, ah, like just like if it was a guy who looked super threatening, you would do a double take. Like if you walked by a guy that was like, "Whoa, I I just I just received like a lot of danger signals from that guy, you know, you would you would do a double take and keep an extra eye on him. So all
01:51:14 of this is physiognomy, and these are important ways that we keep our kids safe. That we do mate selection. Oh, something else before we go to super chat. Okay, I saw this in the live chat, and I I wanted to dispel this myth because I see this all the time from guys on the right. Pretty women always have fat, ugly friends. I have never in my life experienced experienced this or seen it in any social circle.
01:51:37 I feel like all of my friends are my equal attractiveness level because it raises women's social standing when they have attractive friends. I understand the the competitive environment, like I understand that aspect. But in my in my life, I have never in any of my social circles seen this borne out. Do you think this is a real phenomenon? And my unique my experience is unique.
01:52:01 I will say, as someone who worked as a bouncer at a bar for many years, that there is the fat friend phenomenon. It's not. It's not. Is it
01:52:11 one fat friend, or is it all of her friends are fat, and she's the only hot girl?
01:52:15 No, no, no, no. It's it's. There's like the there's the token fat girl. Like if you usually see it. See, here's the thing, though. I don't think it's not like oh, we're all going out on the night out. It's just us friends. It's usually like at an event, the fat girl gets invited. So, like, it's like a bachelorette party, right?
01:52:32 Okay.
01:52:33 So, if there's a bachelorette party, it's like six hot girls and some fatty. You know, like it's something like that, or yeah, and and and they're right. I know what they're talking about because they they cock block you. Like the fat girl gets mad and and basically polices the sexual advances of men that are thrown at everyone but her. Yeah, and I don't know what I don't know what the strategy there is or why that's happening, but I've I've seen that happen.
01:53:00 Why would women like? I understand why a woman would be bonus one, but why would she have only one fat friend?
01:53:09 Oh, I don't know. It might just be chance that she, you know, that's the friend that really liked Oreo cookies or something, you know.
01:53:15 And then, like in in high school, when one of our friends would gain like five pounds, she would just get bullied to death, like literally to death.
01:53:24 Like one of them killed themselves, right?
01:53:26 No, we we didn't we didn't force anybody to commit suicide. But everybody would be like, "Listen,
01:53:30 we just gave eating disorders.
01:53:32 Yeah, it just gave us a touch of eating disorder. Like, listen, you've gotten fat, and like you got to shape up, and and that was the way it was in high school. And everybody was hot and looked perfect all the time, and spent an hour getting ready before we had to leave at six a.m. and stuff. And that's just the way it was. And if you fell out of that, well, this is less. I'd say this
01:53:52 is less high school, though. I'm talking more. This is more like college years. You know what I mean? Like I don't, I don't. In high school, you didn't really see that as often. I mean, you know, like I would say it still happened, maybe. But like in my experience, there was like in college, like because I worked in a college town, and it was that's what I saw was like again, not every time, and there was always like usually because you know, usually people, like you're saying, they friend up with people like them, right? And so usually it's groups of people that look basically relatively the same, but then there's always that group of girls that has like the one angry fat girl that's like stopping anyone from getting laid.
01:54:40 If you've never seen it, you are the fat friend.
01:54:43 There you go.
01:54:44 Maybe, maybe I'm the ugly friend. All my friends are like, I don't know, man. We just keep her around. Okay. Well, that's an interesting. That's an interesting perspective because I've always wondered, like, what is the biological reason that that women would do. This because if you're if you're bringing your fat pig friend out just to help cockblock, then why wouldn't you just bring a dude at that point?
01:55:07 Well, I don't think they're doing it to help cockblock. I think the the fat friend's doing it out of rage that no one's paying attention to her, and so she's sabotaging. They would
01:55:16 be pissed at. They would be all pissed at that friend. They would never invite her out again.
01:55:20 I don't know. You tell me. That's the female nature side. No, no. This is
01:55:23 this has never happened to me because I'm the fat friend. So I I don't know what's going on here.
01:55:28 Well, then why are you cock blocking all your friends? I guess.
01:55:30 And why don't the attention? Why is someone hitting on me?
01:55:35 Why don't why why don't they kick you out of the group?
01:55:38 Yeah, maybe they will. Oh, I better. I've got some texts to send after this. My my mom's chat. Like, am I am I your fat friend? Am I am I the one? Is it me? Is it me? You want to go to super chats?
01:55:52 Yeah, let's do that.
01:55:54 Wait, before we do, maybe we should go through these um these people again so that people can guess before we answer. Oh
01:56:00 yeah. All right. You guys ready?
01:56:03 Yeah.
01:56:03 Let's see here. Let's go back to this. Yeah, get
01:56:07 that off the screen. I don't want to see that anymore.
01:56:11 Well, I'll tell you what. If you're tired of seeing that, what about that? All right, everybody. Okay. Remember what your choices are. Let's play the choices again. And
01:56:23 that criminal face was it assault? What did they do? Was it stealing? What did they do? Or driving drunk? What did they do?
01:56:39 All right, what'd they do? Did any
01:56:42 super chats come in about this? Should we tell them? Should we wait?
01:56:48 Let me look and see if there's any super chats about it.
01:56:55 All right. If you guys don't send
01:56:56 in super chats about this, then then we can. I'll just read the live chat. All right, this guy. I have a guess. I have several guesses of stealing on my channel. What do you think, Rumble? I got. I got a guess of of drunk stealing and and Rumble beating his wife. So stealing seems to be. I got I got five for stealing.
01:57:23 Survey says assault. You guys were all wrong.
01:57:29 Yeah, we're all
01:57:30 wrong. He's the violent assaulter. Okay,
01:57:35 number two.
01:57:36 We got this guy. This one
01:57:38 should be easy now that now we
01:57:40 got the assault. face. Was it assault? What did they do? Was it stealing? What did they do? Diddling a kid? What did they do? Or driving drunk? What did they do?
01:57:55 Can't I can't listen to it again? Can't maybe listen to it again. Oh, but I can no no no. What is it, guys? Everyone got this. Everyone got this one right.
01:58:08 It's drunk. It's drunk. That
01:58:10 guy DUI. I think his BAC was above three.
01:58:14 Yeah.
01:58:15 Point three. All right. You guys are right. What about this guy? What did they do? not going to sleep.
01:58:26 What about this guy? What did he do, guys?
01:58:29 You guys, we already did assault. We already did. We already did drunk driving. Okay, figure it out. Figure
01:58:38 it out. We got. We got we got a couple people.
01:58:42 They got it. Yes,
01:58:43 it's it was it was grand larceny shoplifting over $100,000.
01:58:48 Damn! Do you know what he stole?
01:58:49 I don't know. I didn't say. So this is the thief, and then of course there's only one left,
01:58:56 the
01:58:57 kitty diddler.
01:58:58 Yeah.
01:58:59 Who would have who who would have thought?
01:59:01 Where did you find this?
01:59:03 I just looked up child molester mugshot. I saw that and was like, well, that that pretty much fits the bill right there.
01:59:13 I think the drunk one and then this one were obviously the easiest ones. This one was the easiest one, but by by Millie Miles, so easy. Thank you for that. See, you guys are also practicing physiognomy by correctly assessing the the criminality of these perpetrators. All right, cool. Let's do this. Is episode 26. Regular guy says best to you both and best to you, Mister Regular guy, I'm sure you're not actually regular. Plum Logan, catch you on the replay. Here's some shekels. Thanks, James. No, no, big dono.
01:59:46 Thank you so much, Osman versus Markman. First time live. Thanks, Beck, for supporting Aussie nationalists when cringe. Dave didn't. Deb and I were talking about this the other day. So like when we do a. The show after you're done with the show because it's such a process leading up to the show. You have to do so much research and blah blah blah. After I'm done with the show, it just leaves my brain forever, and I I never look back and so I don't even remember doing this. But I'm glad I did. I'm sure that I'm sure that I did. That sounds like something I would do. But they are the creme de la creme.
02:00:20 I love the Aussie nationalists, Samuel Spiel. The elite believe this stuff. It just went underground after World War II in biology. If you want to change a population, you eliminate the border lines. For example, promoting the trans stuff, the borderline masculine males sterilize themselves. It's not happening at such a wide population level that I would imagine it's going to make that much of a difference, though. Transgenderism is still relatively rare. Like, how do you think that this is going to really affect future populations?
02:00:52 What? Just the fact that there's people taking the sterilization drug for trans. I mean, because what
02:01:02 percentage of these people would would procreate anyway? Well, no. Well, here's the thing.
02:01:05 I want those people to select themselves out, though. But why? If you're the if you're the kind of person that's going to go trans, or I mean, and I'm sorry, I know there's some kids that aren't. That's not really their choice. But if you have parents, guess what? You inherited the same crazy the parents had, and so yeah, I'm okay with ending the genetic lines of people that fail. That's it's a test, it's a filter, and you're getting filtered out.
02:01:27 Yeah.
02:01:28 So one way or another, it's a eugenic filter, actually. So I mean, it is what it
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02:02:15 It's the second best. The best one's the Insomnia Stream, obviously.
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02:02:35 what is it?
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02:02:46 Oh, I'm sorry, Kevin. I'm sorry. My apologies. We're good over here.
02:02:54 Let's see if there's a version that we could play. Nah.
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02:03:38 Of course not. Of course I didn't.
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02:04:03 I appreciate that too, Astroless. Then we got a big dodo from Red Neckerson. Red Neckerson says, "I donated to today's and next week's show. Can you say the same? I think he's talking to you, chat.
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02:04:24 to the audience. Talking to all the freeloaders. Talking to all the freeloaders out there. We very much appreciate that, Red Neckerson. And then we got Mike Hawk 420 Blazing says sorry to hear about Churro, Devon. He was a great cat. Oh slash. Yeah, I know he was, and yeah, it sucks. In fact, because I don't do a lot of driving out here, I'm pretty self-sufficient. I got in the car. I had to go to the post office today, and the cat carrier, the empty cat carrier, was still on the passenger side. I just like looked at it and was like, ah. So yeah, you know,
02:05:04 you've been handling it like a champ, though.
02:05:06 Yeah, yeah, he's he's in Kitty Heb. Oh, I I should tell people about Stormcat, maybe.
02:05:11 Oh yeah.
02:05:11 So we had like a huge storm out here. Power went out. I mean, it did some damage to my roof, like one of those storms. It was a massive fuck. We had we didn't get one for like a couple years. We got one really bad this last weekend, and I I go out there to check how bad it is, and I'm with my light, and I hear like a meh, and I'm like, what the fuck? That's not that can't be churro, and then there's a little gray cat in the distance, and like the because it was still kind of raining a little bit, and it was dark.
02:05:46 And this little gray cat, like, is in this shrubbery. And I was like, well, that's either that's either the ghost of Churro, or it's like pet cemetery Churro, or the sad option is it was one of Churro's friends looking for him, and and I was like, "Hey, get over here! Like, I'm gonna feed you and make you the new Churro. And then it ran away, and I looked for him for like an hour and couldn't find him.
02:06:10 But maybe he'll come back. I've never seen that cat before. And my I talked to my neighbors, and they had no idea who who you know it wasn't their cat or anything like that. So, all right, but thank you very much, Mike Hawk, 420 Blaze, and then we got Gorilla Hands says the Clancy trial is taking place in my area, and yes, the women are that batshit crazy.
02:06:31 Just look at our female governor or the commie Chinese mayor of Boston. Absolutely, yeah, it's not a good sign out there of things of the of the the general health of our society. Grillahan's also says I have to admit that I needed this stream with you guys. I'm going through withdrawals from no insomnia stream over the weekend. Oh seven for churro. Well, we'll have one this Saturday.
02:06:58 I'll have a insomnia stream this Saturday. I just needed a break for a variety of reasons, so it was nice to to have a Saturday off. But we'll be we'll be back on this Saturday. All right. Then we have Pork Chop Express says Devon.
02:07:16 A reply on X says you once tried to locate the infamous Holocaust denying 16 year old Raymond. who was on the Ricki Lake show in 1996. I assume you didn't find him, but is the X reply true? No, actually, I never like looked for him. Looked for him, but I think when when we when we brought him up, someone in chat said he was still like around. I mean, you're talking about a stream I did like a really long time ago, and like Rebecca just said, we tend to like you have to. It's like you cram for a test, and then you take the test, and then like some of it stays, but a lot of it gets flushed down the the brain hole
02:07:59 immediately. Four seconds happens. Like earlier this week, I was like, "What? What did we talk about last week?
02:08:04 Right, because you're always doing. Because you know, the next week you're having to cram all the next stuff in. Yeah, and and so I don't remember exactly what was said, but I do remember distinctly someone in chat saying, "Oh, that guy's still around actually, and he's this guy, and I I just don't remember what all the details were, but I think he's I don't think he's one of these because some of these these racist kids are now reformed anti-racist adults, and I don't think he's one of those.
02:08:35 Tomohawk said, Devon, I have a a war Frameless hive, four boxes. Yeah, four boxes. Top three full of honey. Bottom box full of brood. Is it too late in the year to harvest the top two boxes? I haven't had a chance till now. That all depends on a lot of factors. It depends on how many bees you have.
02:09:04 It depends on how long your winter is. It depends on when you expect the first nectar flow to be next year. It depends on. Like I'll tell you what, if you wanted to do it this way, there's a lot of people that basically harvest all the honey, and then they just feed them. And so you could you could feed them sugar water.
02:09:27 Like what you could do is, I mean, it's gonna be harder for you because you don't have a standard hive. So I'm not sure how. Well, you could you can open feed, but just make sure if you open feed, you do it far away from your hive, or you'll create like a robbing situation, but you could steal a significant amount of the honey, and then just really well. Well, I don't know. Here's the other thing too: is how long until winter starts from right now? Because for where I'm at, I'm gonna have like another two months where.
02:09:56 So I would have plenty of time to get them beefed back up. If you're going to start having snow in a few weeks, like some places, then you don't want to do that. You can also feed dry sugar or just like candy, like they sell like candy that you can put in the hive. So there's, I would look up your area, or you know what? You could talk.
02:10:22 There's probably I guarantee you have like a local bee club, and they would tell you with some precision what what how much to take away because it's going to be different no matter where you're at. And also, just I would personally I would I would switch to Langstroth just because it makes a lot of that that stuff easier. But yeah, hives. You know, if you only have like one or two hives, you can use whatever you want. We got likes to watch. Says I'll catch the replay. Good night to both of you and to Chad.
02:10:50 Good night.
02:10:52 Good night to you. Likes to watch. And then we got Evergreen Dream. Says missed the last couple strains, but sorry about churro. I sent a chat a few months ago about losing my cat, and never expected they would meet in Kitty Valhalla so soon. I'll miss his interruptions. R R I P. Well, like I said, maybe Storm Cat will become Churro 2.0. I haven't seen him since, so maybe not.
02:11:18 But I'll keep an eye out for them, but thank you very much, there, Evergreen Dream. Then we got the Shadow Band says thank you both for all the content, great shows. Well, I appreciate that. Then we got Rage Pilled says first time catch you live. I usually catch the restream with my husband while he's trucking. I've really enjoyed both the Outlaws and the regular Black Pilled show.
02:11:44 Thanks for doing what you do. Well, thank you. Thank you so much. Black Pilled. All right, then we got Book Track Grooves says I have a rare book that study physiognomy. If you're interested, cheers all. Well, I'll tell you what. If you have that, you should. If you have the means to, you should scan it and upload it to archive.org so everyone can have that. There's most most of them are on.
02:12:10 I mean, I don't know how rare your book is, but like most of the ones I was I was looking up, I could find on archive.org, and that's that's a a good resource if you're looking for those kinds of books, but yeah, absolutely. If you've got something like that, try to make that try to put a digital copy on the internet. Friendly Fash says Cesar Lombroso was a Jew that wrote anti-Semitism in the light of modern science, using his methods to scientifically reject racist, anti-Semitic ideologies and defend Jew emancipation. Let me see. Which one is he? Where's where's I gotta find the stupid notes. I got too many browsers open now. Which which one is he?
02:13:10 I'm not sure. Say the name again.
02:13:14 Hold on, I'll find him. It's the Lombraso. is that the one they were trying to burn as a witch constantly? Is that is this a Catholic going? He was a Jew. Let me see.
02:13:35 Brasso. Why can I not find this? I have no idea how to spell this.
02:13:39 I'm I'm I'm scrolling to where I think the name is. Hang on, I'll have it here. Limbrazo, Lambroso, Lambroso, Lambroso, Lambra, Lambso, Lambra, No, that's the Reset Allen.
02:13:55 Okay.
02:13:59 Delaporta, and then Lavatar.
02:14:05 Man, my internet's getting really sketchy. I don't know what's going on here.
02:14:08 No, you're still good over here, or at least I think so.
02:14:12 Cool.
02:14:13 Yeah, you're still fine here. Why he's not? I don't see him in the in the. Oh, here he is. He was the one. Yeah, okay, yeah. This is the guy that. Okay, good. It wasn't the one that was. Where's this picture at? I can't find. L O M
02:14:37 D.
02:14:39 He's all right. So he's the one that wanted to. Oh, he's the one that did the criminal one. He's the one that did the criminal man. The criminal man.
02:14:48 That's right. Okay. The the
02:14:49 wanted to basically kill everyone that had a lopsided face. So, well, you know, broken clock, right? All righty. All right.
02:15:13 How's that for an evil laugh?
02:15:14 Yeah. Iron of Sutter says, "I've been a longtime listener to your content and need to catch up on donations. Just here to drop a little dono money. I'll catch the replay. Sorry, sorry to hear about churro. That's okay. Iron and solder. Make sure you use that soldering iron for good. All right. Then we got book track. Groove says, "Blonde, did you or did you watch that video of Aidan Paladin, or that Aiden Paladin made about talking about looks maxing in women on pills?
02:15:50 No, I haven't. Is she talking about birth control and looks maxing? Aiden Paladin's great. I should check it out, but I haven't seen it. No. Neither
02:15:57 have I. All right. Then We got scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. Cat, or I almost said cactus man, Catsman, replay gang, but wanted to support. Well, I appreciate that. Then we got donors. Arc says there was a term for mug shots, particularly of diddlers. They always have what is called the pedo smile-a slight grin that doesn't exist in the face of killers. That's right. Then we got Tomahawk says, "I'm in Kansas. The fall nectar flow is about to start for the next two months, and I do have a feeder.
02:16:47 War is pronounced warre. Look it up. It's supposed to be less stressful to the bees. No, I've I've seen them written about. I've just never used them. I've always used Langstroth, and I, I, I don't know. I don't think that that's it's substantially. I don't think having frames making it easier for you to manage your hive makes it too stressful for the bees. The bees are pretty resilient, but I mean, you know, you can keep bees literally in a bucket, you know, or a cooler or something like that, and you know, it just makes it just anything you do to change the hive is it's really going to just determine how easy it is for you more than anything else.
02:17:35 I don't think there's like a huge variation on on productivity of the bees, But yeah, if you have like two months, I mean, it all depends on. I would open feed if you did any now. I would I would take less than you think that that I would I would just be I would take conservatively. But this is the time of year that you can take honey easy, and I would take conservatively. I would look up and see based on how well your bee population, how much you should leave behind, and and then I would I would feed.
02:18:09 I I mean I I try to feed sometimes or you know sometimes or this year this last year I didn't at all, but I try to feed if it's gonna if I know there's gonna be a really long dearth and I took a lot of honey. All right, and then we got. Let's see here. Love and division says interesting discussion tonight. Who decided to get which face seems very fatalistic.
02:18:46 Do you understand this?
02:18:48 Who decided to get what face seems very fatalistic. Well, like like I said, it's that's that's one of the things that people that don't like genetic or the the fact that behavior is tied to genetics, that is the pushback, and and I would say that it's sorry. There's just there's just a mountain of evidence that there is that the behavior is genetic, and so is your face. You know, so it's it's all part of the same system.
02:19:20 You know, it's not that it's your face making you do things. It's just the same thing that's making you do things made your face. So it's easy to you know, it's just it's just the the branding. You know, it's the packaging of the of the behavior that's also genetically driven. So yeah, I mean, I guess if anyone decided, I guess you could say God decided, or but really it's your genes that decided.
02:19:44 You know, it's your parents who decided, in a manner of speaking, or you know, Mother Nature that decided. But but yeah, it's you know it's a product of the same genes that determines much of. Your behavior, maybe not all of it, but much of your behavior. All right, I think I'm all good over
02:20:06 here. I have a few more that came.
02:20:07 Okay,
02:20:07 another big donation from Kevin Hunt's fucking pussy. I want Rebecca to see the vid. Love your free speech. I will watch it. I promise. You won't get a live reaction, but I'll watch it. Um, toughy banana. I missed the stream watching rhetorically defective stream. Maybe a collab would be fun. He and News Fist are rising stars of the slopulist, right? I don't. I don't know either of these people. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And then a big deal from last week. Rhetorically defective.
02:20:36 Yeah, I don't know who that is. A
02:20:37 news fist, and then one from last week that came in after we closed out as a big dono from Soul Nomad. Can you do a reading of For All We Have and Are, either here or as a standalone video on your channel? This was on Rumble. I'm the guy who called Dave an illiterate Italian darkie. Well, for that I thank you. I really appreciate it. The other question is for you, Devon.
02:21:03 What's the what's the you do a reading
02:21:06 of for all we have and are.
02:21:09 For all we have and are, what is that? Is that like a poem or something?
02:21:14 I presume. Let's see. It's a it's a Ruger Kipling poem. Okay.
02:21:21 How long is it?
02:21:23 Let's see.
02:21:26 I went to the Poetry Foundation.
02:21:29 Oh, you can do this right now. This was a big dono. Come on.
02:21:32 Okay, here we go. It's it's a Kipling poem. So here we go. I don't know if I might do it right because, like, I don't never read it before, so I might. We'll see. For all we have and are, for all our children's fate, stand up and take the war. The Hun is at the gate.
02:21:55 Our world has passed away in wantonness and overthrown. Or see, I already fucked up. In wantonness overthrown, there is nothing left today but steel and fire and stone. Though all we knew depart, the old commandments stand: in courage, keep your heart; in strength, lift up your hand! Once more we hear the word that sickened earth of old. No law except the sword, unsheathed and uncontrolled. Once more it knits mankind. Once more the nations go to meet and break the blind, a crazed and driven foe. Comfort, content, delight, the ages slow-bought gain. They shriveled in a night.
02:22:54 Only ourselves remain to face the naked days in silent fortitude, through perils and dismays, renewed and renewed. Though all we made depart, the old commandment stands. I'll screw that up too. Old the old commandments stand. In patience, keep your heart. In strength, lift up your hand. No easy hope or lies shall bring us to our goal, but iron sacrifice of body, will, and soul. There is but one task for all, one life for each to give, what stands if freedom fall? Who dies if England live? Excellent.
02:23:56 That was very good. Thank you for that. That was from last week. So,
02:24:01 okay, all right. I think we are. We're good over here.
02:24:06 Thank you so much for joining us. I'm Rebecca Hargraves. Please follow me on X at blondes underscore tweets. Please check out my YouTube channel, Blonde in the Belly of the Beast. I do another show with Cameron Macgregor called The Reset. It's very serious.
02:24:19 It's it's not the The thrills of this show, but it's a good show, and that's on YouTube. That's on Thursdays at 4p.m. Pacific Standard Time, 7p.m. Eastern. Check me out there, and then I have a second YouTube channel in case I get demonetized or whatever. It's at Rebecca Hargraves one. That's going to be some clips from the reset coming shortly.
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