INSOMNIA STREAM: NINJAS EDITION
Stream Summary
The stream recounts the 1985 murders of Gerald and Vera Woodman, English Jewish immigrants who had built a Los Angeles plastics firm, Manchester Products. After years of alleged profit-skimming, gambling, and family conflict, their sons Stewart and Neil—who had also taken company money—hired Steve Homick, a former LAPD officer later tied to Las Vegas enforcement work, along with Homick’s brother Bob and others. On Yom Kippur 1985 the killers, one dressed in black “ninja” clothing that drew contemporary press attention, shot the couple in the parking garage of their Brentwood condominium; investigators cited a life-insurance policy on Vera, efforts to stop Gerald’s competing business, bolt-cutter evidence, travel and phone records, casino footage, and cooperating witness Michael Dominguez. Stewart Woodman later gave a lengthy confession; the sons and Bob Homick received life sentences, while Steve Homick was sentenced to death and died in prison in 2014 without being executed.
The episode then plays a Dave Ramsey segment in which a caller who had spent more than half a million dollars on her daughters’ education says she no longer wants to leave them an inheritance because they have become “socialists.” Ramsey replies that children are not entitled to an estate, calls socialists parasites, and says his own trust withholds management of family money from heirs who are not “walking with God”; co-host John Delony urges her to specify the behaviors that concern her and to discuss them directly. Host Devon Stack treats the Woodman case as an illustration of intergenerational greed and offers only limited agreement with Ramsey, arguing that withholding inheritance is sometimes defensible but is more often an excuse used by older parents.
- Reflections on time passing and summer moving quickly.
- Gas prices and clips of Donald Trump discussing energy costs and foreign policy.
- Military ship conditions and concerns about institutional maintenance and readiness.
- A discussion of a report on declining social trust and political contempt in the United States.
- The Woodman family’s plastics business, family conflict, financial misconduct, and the 1985 murders.
- A Dave Ramsey and John Delony clip about inheritance, values, and communicating with adult children.
- Audience comments, followed by a Ginsu knife advertisement.
Sources
No verified links are available from the supplied transcript. Titles and source descriptions are listed without links rather than guessing at URLs.
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The Hill article: Why Americans Now Hate Each Other More Than Ever by John Mac Ghlionn
Verified source:
The Hill Article
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Dave Ramsey segment: Dave, My Kids Have Turned Into Socialists!
Verified source:
The Ramsey Show Highlights
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The New Detectives – "Deadly Dealings"
Documentary episode covering the Woodman murders:
The New Detectives (Real Crime)
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Oxygen – "Killer Siblings" (Woodman Case)
Coverage of the Gerald and Vera Woodman murders:
Oxygen Crime Article
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People v. Homick (California Supreme Court)
Official court opinion concerning the Woodman murder-for-hire case:
California Supreme Court Resources
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United States v. Neil Woodman, Robert Homick, and Steven Homick
Federal appellate court decision related to the case:
Justia Court Record
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Penny Marshall Ninja Home-Invasion Story (1984)
UPI archive article referenced during discussion of 1980s ninja crimes:
UPI Archive
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Penny Marshall Ninja Robbery Follow-Up Article (1984)
UPI archive:
UPI Archive
Key Points of Wisdom
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[00:08:23]
“People say as you get older, time does go faster... it’s all relative.”
Reflection on how perception of time changes with age.
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[00:19:20]
“A significant portion of young adults operate under the functional premise that everyone else is a threat.”
Part of the discussion on declining social trust and civic cohesion.
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[00:23:12]
“A nation is nothing more than a vast network of interpersonal relationships.”
Quoted from the article being discussed as a framework for understanding social stability.
Hyperchat Highlights
The transcript places these comments in the segment between 01:43:06 and 01:45:15 but does not provide separate timestamps for each one. The interval is shown rather than assigning unsupported exact times. Some names or wording may be uncertain because the transcript appears to be automatically generated.
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Love and division:
I had a Jewish boss in the 1980s. His son was in a fender bender. The next thing you know, the son is outfitted with a neck collar brace.
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Simbey:
Would you be interested in recording some lines for a game trailer? If so, what would you charge for about 100 words?
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Reaver from Craigslist:
Davon, how prevalent is emotional and psychological manipulation in LDS women? Seems like most of the Mormon women that I've met browbeat their husbands, and the women wear the pants, i.e. Ruby Franck.
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Noland Findley:
Ammo is relatively cheap right now. Wouldn't be surprised if in a few years it's hard to come by. Who knows? It could be worth its weight in gold in a decade or so.
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Astroless 725:
“Nectarine moons.” (Wording as transcribed; context is unclear.)
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Astrolus:
This is a good one. If thieving Jews and killer ninjas are the main characters of the story, I'm always surprised. Thanks, Devon.
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Ashwala:
Denise the Celt. Funny, but it also is kind of disturbing to see how one group of people manage to display disgusting traits. The no one else copies. Hopefully. (Wording and attribution are unclear in the transcript.)
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Randall Flagg:
I've gotten a job offer from outside Provo, Utah. It's a very good offer. And looking at the website, it's almost all white. My question is, what can a lot of Mormon questions tonight? What can be expected from LDS work culture? No idea what to expect.
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Randall Flagg:
It was exactly a year ago you covered the Wichita Horror, which many consider the worst black-on-white crime of the 21st century. From what you said, the Kansas Supreme Court is somehow half Jewish.
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Night Train:
Jewish business is an oxymoron.
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[01:43:06–01:45:15] Likes to watch:
As much as I want to catch the streams live, I like listening to them during the work week. Thanks for what you do.
Hyperchat Contributors
- Love and division
- Simbey
- Reaver from Craigslist
- Noland Findley
- Astroless 725
- Astrolus
- Ashwala (attribution uncertain in transcript)
- Randall Flagg
- Night Train
- Likes to watch