Outlaws： Episode 23, The Steinbergs - 08/12/2026

00:00:01 You're watching Outlaws with Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack.
00:00:09 Hey,
00:00:12 hello. I'm Rebecca Hargraves,
00:00:14 And I am Devon Stack, and this is Outlaws. All right, there we go.
00:00:22 Hey, did you change your graphic, or were you just yelling into the mic and it changed a little bit?
00:00:26 No, it always does blue
00:00:27 and shit. Does it really?
00:00:28 Yeah, yeah, it always does that.
00:00:30 Oh, I guess sometimes
00:00:31 it's more sensitive sometimes because Windows sucks and like just changes your audio levels, and I have that kind of accounted for in OBS, but like the program that reacts to my voice sometimes is yeah. That was too
00:00:45 much of an answer. I yeah. I didn't understand any anything you just said.
00:00:49 Well, next time don't don't ask questions if you don't want the answers to them. Yeah,
00:00:53 that's valid.
00:00:54 Yeah, we have the
00:00:56 most disturbing story to talk about today. We're gonna have to do a fun one next week. I think.
00:01:01 I think so. Yeah, this one's pretty bad. This one's definitely bad. I mean, it's it's not surprising given the the cast of characters, but it is it is quite bad.
00:01:13 Yeah,
00:01:13 I mean, the name alone should clue you in that there's going to be trouble. I mean, the Steinbergs, right? I mean, you mean the
00:01:19 Steinberg story doesn't have a happy ending.
00:01:22 No, no, you think right? Steinberg, like the those Jewy name possible. It's like you get the two Jew last name elements and mash them together into one like super Jewy name.
00:01:34 Okay, okay.
00:01:35 And hold on, it's better than that, right? Because this is this is what he looks like. So it's like the Jewish name possible with the Jewish Jewish face possible. So, but anyway, should we should we introduce this handsome man to the audience? This
00:01:58 is Joel Barnett Steinberg, and guess what? He was a New York City criminal defense attorney. What a shock!
00:02:06 What a shock! He
00:02:07 had some high-profile street and street-level cases. I think he worked with some gangsters.
00:02:11 Yeah, yeah, he worked with drug
00:02:13 connects
00:02:14 the mafia.
00:02:15 Yeah, so he was like your typical New York Jewish criminal defense attorney. He was like the tough lawyer lived in the village, and he was also using tons of drugs, which I believe he procured through his clients. And people knew that he was an asshole. He was violent, controlling, as you would expect.
00:02:34 Yeah, he he did like the crack cocaine. He was crack.
00:02:38 I thought he was just doing cocaine.
00:02:39 No, it was crack. Like he was freebasing? We'll get into that in a little bit. Yikes! Yeah. Well, that's that's just the beginning of the yikes. That's that's what led to the bigger yikes that we'll get to. But yeah. So that's this is Joel Steinberg, Jew lawyer extraordinaire, and then we have well, speaking of really Jewy names, this is Hedda Nosebomb. She got what
00:03:12 was coming to her. I'm just going to go ahead and say that right now. Yeah.
00:03:14 Well, yeah. So Hedda Nosebaum also had had kind of a Jewy job. She worked in publishing. You know, she worked at Random House Publishing. I think she even wrote some children's books. So this is another star of tonight's show. Let's introduce you to a another character in tonight's story.
00:03:40 This is Lisa Steinberg, but the real name. This is Lisa Launders. Lisa Launder's was adopted by the Steinbergs as a baby, and we'll get to the well. I already right. I'm not foreshadowing, but like I kind of am. Little girl gets adopted by Jews, ends poorly. So this is this is also Lisa Steinberg, aka Launder's. There she is again. This is her adopted, also adopted baby brother, who was Mitchell Steinberg?
00:04:24 All right, so that's the the cast of characters here. Here they are together. So this was this story begins. I guess we'll let's go. Let's see how the the Steinbergs met. So I guess in the 1970s, you had Steinberg and Nosebaum start dating in the wild, crazy disco '70s Studio 54 days of New York. You know, everyone doing like the Stanley. Is there a name of that for that dance where you like point? You know, you know the disco. Dance right the disco steer dance. Is there a name for that dance?
00:05:03 Probably. I'll look it up.
00:05:04 Like I kind of feel like it. Yeah, for some reason in my head it's like it should be called like pop in the rain cloud. You know what I mean? Because you like point up and
00:05:13 oh, it's called the hustle.
00:05:15 The is that is that is that the hustle?
00:05:19 That's what Google is telling me. It's called
00:05:21 the hustle. No, I I don't know. I just I mean I know the song "Do the Hustle. I just didn't I I didn't know that that was an actual dance. That
00:05:27 is incorrect. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Disco Finger.
00:05:31 Disco Finger is the name of the. That's what it's
00:05:33 called. All right. All right.
00:05:35 Well, anyway, so the yeah the nose bombs and the Steinbergs are disco fingering around, and after they start dating, you know Steinberg, or I'm sorry, Nosebomb. She's this nice, quiet bookworm type. She comes from a conservative family, and she wants to get married and start a family. She meets Steinberg here, and Steinberg. This
00:06:00 asshole is totally the perfect guy to do this with. Well,
00:06:02 not at first. At first, she thought he was domineering and and kind of an asshole. No, she actually
00:06:08 did not want to date him because he kept asking her out, and then eventually he wore her down. She was like, "Fine.
00:06:13 Yep, and they they they ended up getting married and moving to his brownstone apartment, which was 14 West 10th Street, which was a kind of nice part of town. I mean, you you lived in New York for a little bit, right?
00:06:29 Yeah, it was different back then, but I did read that this was a nice part of town. I thought it was her apartment.
00:06:33 No, it's his. It was his brownstone, or maybe it was her. She was
00:06:38 doing well. She was in publishing,
00:06:40 right? No, she she was doing okay. All right, we're back.
00:06:43 We're not live anymore. We are.
00:06:45 We we are now. So all right, we're back. Glitchy.
00:06:48 I'm getting robot Devon though.
00:06:50 Ah, that's not good. Well, hopefully. Well, hopefully everything keeps going without a problem. Not much I can do about it now. So anyway, so hopefully we're we're live again. I think I mean OBS says we're live again. Anyway, what I was saying is nose bomb would be very timid and kind of you know like shy, and Steinberg after they went to dinner parties, would coach her and say,
00:07:24 "Oh, you should have done this, and and like he was the extrovert and she was the introvert, and their relationship kind of developed in this weird way where he was basically trying to control her personality, and she started to idolize him as if he was like some kind of like God that because because of she she did she says became more assertive, and that gave her promotions at work, and so that was kind of the relationship. Here's one of her books that she wrote. Plants do amazing things, isn't that great?
00:07:59 So the the the couple tried to conceive a baby. It didn't work out, and so they adopted. And we'll get into some of the circumstances around that, but a little bit later. But they adopted that that young girl we showed you, Lisa Lisa Steinberg, on may 14, 1981, and she was it was the day she was born. They got her directly from the mother, took her home, and began to raise her.
00:08:29 And then a few years later, like well, I think five about five years later, they adopted yet another infant under similar circumstances. We'll discuss in a moment. Mitchell, Mitchell Steinberg, also as an infant. Now, while this was going on,
00:08:53 I like the heading that you have here. And I didn't see that.
00:08:59 Yeah, the the decline into crack Jews. Here's you like the you like the photo that goes with it the the Jewish crack pipe.
00:09:07 How did you get AI to do that?
00:09:09 I just said
00:09:09 AI would be like fuck off, stop it.
00:09:12 Oh, Grock will do it. I just said make a crack pipe with a Star of David on it. It gave me four of them, so that that was the best one. So yeah, the the they started smoking crack. Not just the husband, although the husband was the instigator, but the the wife too.
00:09:28 They were smoking crack. They were freebasing crack. They were snorting coke. They were getting drunk all the time, and he was beating the shit out of her. Like, and we'll you'll see some horrific photos here in a moment, but really, really beating the shit out of her, yeah, and so badly that well, well, I guess mixed with the crack cocaine use, she was missing work, and she finally got fired from Random House, and then all of her.
00:09:59 Friends stopped seeing her, and the reason why they stopped seeing her, she was so horribly disfigured. He wouldn't let her out of the house because people would be like, "Wow, what the fuck is going on here? The daughter started showing up to school dirty and with unexplained bruises.
00:10:22 At one point, in fact, the Steinberg was driving through a toll booth, and the toll booth operator was so disturbed by how the the girl was screaming with this weird looking Jew, you know, at the wheel that he called the cops and goes, "I think some Jew kidnapped a girl, and the cops actually went and pulled him over because you know they were alarmed by that possibility, and but they never arrested him. Child Protective Services were actually called numerous times and checked out the household, and for some reason nothing ever happened. A lot of the neighbors said they they saw that you know the little girl looked like she was looking pretty shabby and neglected, and they were afraid of him because he was a mob connected lawyer who had like a Doctor Jekyll, Mister Hyde kind of personality, and they thought that it'd be dangerous to to rat them out. So for whatever reason, you know that never
00:11:27 those accounts of how disgusting the house was.
00:11:30 Oh, we're going to see some footage of the house here in a moment. So by 1987, unfortunately, the crack habit and the physical abuse and the cocaine really went into overdrive. So at this point, the house looked like a crack house. Again, we'll look at some footage here in a second. Both children were being Like like give you an idea of how bad it was. It's like train spotting, only worse if it was Jews. Think of it that way. Yeah,
00:12:08 train spotting.
00:12:09 Yeah, like they literally they they and you'll hear some testimony from one of the first responders. They the little baby boy Mitchell. They tied him with a rope to a chair so that he wouldn't get away while they were getting high on crack, and they well they they beat the daughter to death, and the way that that happened was on the night of november 1, 1987, Steinberg beat her in the face so hard she lost consciousness, and then threw her on the bathroom floor. And then they went and got high on coke and left the house and got drunk at the bar. Hung out with friends, came back home, did some cocaine.
00:12:56 The mom, the disfigured mom, was getting drunk in the car. In fact, someone called the police. They thought she was trying to break. She was a homeless person breaking into the car, and the cops were just like, "Oh no, it's just a drunken Jew in the car. Meanwhile, meanwhile, their kid's been beaten unconscious and just laying like like on the bathroom floor. They yeah they they do drugs all night long?
00:13:21 They wake up the next day and realize that she's not breathing, and they call 911. I heard the 911 call, and I was gonna play it, but the audio is so bad it's like impossible. It's nearly impossible. I mean, I I could make it out, but it's like I didn't want to play because it was. I mean, it was. I mean, it's a recording from the 80s that's been transferred over a million times and then put on the internet. It just is horrible.
00:13:48 But that what I can tell you is the wife who called 911, the mother nose bomb, just sounds like a zombie. Like she doesn't care that her daughter is literally, literally dead on the floor, and so first responders show up. And here we're going to see some footage of the house when they show up. So let's see here. There's this
00:14:16 old electronics equipment, papers, and dirty clothes covered the floors. There were blood stains on the walls. An exercise bar with hair and blood on it hung from a hook. Mitchell's playpen sat by a large desk.
00:14:32 We found, I believe, it was cocaine, marijuana, and some other drugs. The apartment was-I've never seen an apartment in 22 years in a police department in any place in the poorest of neighborhoods or the best of neighborhoods. It just was a filthy, filthy apartment.
00:14:50 Yeah,
00:14:50 and this
00:14:52 is again, this was in the nice part of town, according to you know, like like you said, maybe things changed me there, but Irma Rivera. This is. She was one of the first responding officers.
00:15:04 Has a detailed account of when she came in there and responded to this call that there was a a young girl that was that was unconscious, and they suspected there was some kind of abuse or something, and so that's why the cops were were sent to, and she immediately was like, "What the fuck's going on? This place looks like a disaster, and that no one seems all that concerned about the the the girl that's you know probably dead. So this is what her her experience was.
00:15:41 I was working that morning, and my partner and I, Bobby Columbia, at the time, you know, we got a call to respond to St. Vincent's Hospital on a report of a of a young girl. I believe she was six or seven. I can't recall her age, but she was a young girl, and she came in with a head injury.
00:15:59 So Bobby Columbia and I responded to St. Vincent's Hospital, and when we got there, we looked for the family, and the family was in there. And which I found that kind of unusual, because a lot of times when you have a child with an injury, that you know the parents are at the bedside or the parents are there, and in this particular case, the parents were nowhere to be found. So we spoke to the doctors. They told
00:16:22 us. Well, she's talking about at the hospital. That's where the cops showed up first because they were caught. You know, the the doctors were like, "What the fuck? This kid's like been beat to death, basically. Yeah.
00:16:32 And so she goes, and I'll I have a clip from another investigator about why they the parents weren't at the hospital, but she's like, yeah, this is weird. Like, you would think that if your kid is brought into the ER because they're maybe dead, that you would go with them and yeah,
00:16:51 absolutely see.
00:16:54 See if they're you know gonna be okay. And she was like, what? They're they're they're not even here. So they go to the house to check it out and see like what the hell's going on.
00:17:03 That the child had what they call subdural hematoma, which is like a bleeding in her brain. And one thing I remember about Lisa Steinberg when I saw her, like I still have this image so clear in my head, is how dirty the bottom of her feet were. Her feet were like black, like from dirt, you know. And she was like, you know, a Caucasian girl. You know, she had a few bruises on her, like you know, black and blues.
00:17:25 But to me, she appeared like she was dirty. Like her her feet were completely dirty, like black feet, like dirt. So, and that kind of caught my attention. You know, thinking like, you know, you know, why why are her feet like that? Then the cops, you know, the cops over there told us that you know the the parents had left. You know, and I found that kind of a little bit unusual, so Bobby Columbia and I leave and we go to the to their home, which was on West 10th Street. I believe it was between Sixth Avenue and Fifth Avenue on West 10th Street. I don't recall the exact address, but it was like a brownstone, you know, walk-up brownstone.
00:18:00 When we get there, you know, we go up the steps, and it was the first apartment on the first. I believe it was on the first floor. So I knock on the door, and a man opens the door, and it's Joe Steinberg. I later on find out that his name is Joe Steinberg, and I ask if if he's the father of the Lisa who's at the hospital. He says yes, and I said, you know, why aren't you at the hospital, he says. Well, I need to take a shower. You know, I needed to come home and take a shower. I said, well, you're gonna have to come with me.
00:18:28 You know, we need to go back to the hospital to the precinct and discuss. You know, your daughter's injuries. And he tells me, well, I gotta take a shower. You know, I got. I have to get my coffee. And you know, he's being. And he tells me that he's a lawyer. And at some point I tell him, I don't care who you are, you have to come to the hospital with us. You know, at some point we get into the apartment, we we're allowed into the apartment because you know I'm telling him that he has to come with us, and you know was his wife. So when we get into the apartment, the first thing I notice is how filthy, dirty the apartment was.
00:18:57 Like here we're on on West Head Street, very affluent block. You know he's an attorney, and when I walk in, the place was like one of the worst, dirtiest apartments I seen. I felt like I was in a real shit hole. That's what it felt like. And I, I come in and I, and one thing I he didn't like about me was because immediately I'm like looking around, and he's like, he just keeps staring at me because I'm like looking at like, and I'm the expression on my face.
00:19:20 I I couldn't play poker that day. I my the way I was feeling showed on my face, and I'm looking around. I'm saying, God, this place is so filthy, dirty. I'm thinking to myself. And then I when I look, I look in the living room. I see like a makeshift playpen. It's like um, like the frame of a playpen, but it's tied together and stuff. And then I noticed this little boy within the playpen, and he was really adorable.
00:19:44 I remember him being like a Caucasian. He had like really white blonde hair, you know, blue eyes. And when I looked at him, you know, he smiled at me, which is one thing that I never forgot. Like when he saw me, he smiled at me. Like you know, most kids would cry with a stranger, but he smiled at me. And I started like playing with him, and then Joe Steinberg is looking at me like, in other words, like why you playing with him? But one thing I did notice that he was tied around.
00:20:07 He had a he was tied around his waist with a rope, and he and that rope was tied to one of the bars on the playpen, and he was dirty. Like he smelled like you know you could tell his diaper had been changed, but he was really filthy. So I remember saying like I untie the rope, and you know, and then I I was playing with him, and then at some point around that time, Hedda comes from the back.
00:20:29 But now there's other people in the apartment. It's like I'm there, my partner's there. We had call for a sergeant. There's other uniformed cops within the apartment. You know, the sergeant is there. You know, and someone takes the baby and they pick him up, and and I carried him for a minute. Then somebody else took him, and at some point Heather came out. And when Heather came out, we were all like in a circle. And when I saw her, I remember my face was like, "Oh my God! Like I I think I even worded that. I said like, "Oh my God! Like you know, because she looked like I couldn't believe she was the mother of these kids. She like an old lady with really
00:21:04 oh my god yeah
00:21:06 really like frizzy gray hair. Her face looked like it had been like like she was in a fight. Like you know it was like her nose like it had been broken. She had all these like bruises on her face that looked like they had been healed. I mean I couldn't believe what she looked like she looked like she had been tortured, you know. And then at that point, I'm like, oh my god!
00:21:26 And then he's looking at me like he hated me from the minute he met me, because I, because the minute he told me that he was a lawyer, I challenged. I don't care who you are. You have to come with us. So he didn't like me. He liked the fact that I was being a little bit, you know, authoritarian with him, like telling him that he has to do this, he has to do that, so he don't like that.
00:21:43 The fact that I untied the baby, you know, the little boy, so he he didn't like the fact that I was being a little bit aggressive. I think about the fact that he had to leave with us. And when Heather came out, my reaction he kept he was giving me the dirtiest looks. You know, he was like really annoyed by me, and I can tell. So at some point everybody leaves the apartment.
00:22:02 They leave. They leave with the kids, with the boy. The social workers came. Everybody's gone, and now we're leaving. So now it's me, him, Bobby Columbia, Heather Newsbaum, and we're leaving the apartment. So as we're leaving the apartment, is Bobby Columbia?
00:22:18 Heather is about to lock the door, and I notice that he looks at the back of her head, and you can see all these cuts in her head and bruises and missing hair. And he says to her, "When you go inside and put on a hat. And I turn to him and I say, "What's wrong? You don't want us to see all the cuts and bruises on her head? And then he gets really mad. So she goes into the apartment.
00:22:36 She puts on a kerchief, and she comes out. It was a blue kerchief. And now we're going down the stairs. So now he's trying to act all lovey-dovey with her, and I noticed that. Like he's putting his arm, trying to be really nice to her, putting his arm around her, wanting to be in the same police car with her, you know. And I knew what he was doing. I knew that he was trying to like like be nice to her because he wanted her to not tell us anything that happened.
00:23:01 So that's what she looks like, and if you want to see the before and after, that's the before and after.
00:23:07 Dude, he beat her to shit,
00:23:09 right? And broken
00:23:11 a bunch of bones in her face, or she wouldn't be look so deformed. He clearly has broken her nose several times,
00:23:16 right? And now part of that could also be lots of cocaine use and other in that stupid tech problems. I fucking disrupts the whole flow, makes it all retard. Anyway, we're back. We're back. We're so back. And so they get they they get there at this point. The the the girl hasn't died yet. She's being essentially kept alive by machines.
00:23:44 Yeah. So she was in a traumatic coma. They said for for quite a while.
00:23:49 But there was no brain activity, so she was basically just dead, being kept alive with machines. This is another photo of what the what the wife looked like. Yeah. So here are some clips of what the first responders experienced in terms of the behavior of the parents and some of the injuries. So this is where they discuss some of the the injuries to the little girl here. Let's see here.
00:24:27 She was comatose on a respirator, and I examined the child myself and noticed there were several bruises on her chest, some bruises on the back, and also I believe it was on the right side of her head.
00:24:39 Obviously, the bruises to her face were the the final bruises, where you could actually see the imprint of a fist on her jaw.
00:24:49 So they could literally see that she was punched to death by by Steinberg, or at least I mean. Obviously, they they didn't think it was the zombie woman that was barely alive that was living there too. And then when they told him, "Hey, look, your your your daughter is not doing so great, he was very flippant. He was making jokes. He made a joke about like, "Okay, well, so she's never going to be in the Olympics, but she's got to be okay, right? And so, yeah, and so this is the one of the hard
00:25:26 thing to say.
00:25:27 Yeah, it's well, it's a very Jewy thing to say.
00:25:30 Steinberg's response was something like, "Well, I guess you're telling me she's not going to the Olympics, but she might be okay. And we just thought it was a bizarre and inappropriate comment to make.
00:25:42 Yeah, yeah, just a little bit, and then they noticed that he just left. When again, at this point, technically, especially if your parents who want to believe your kid's going to be okay, you know, even if like you know a third party looking on the outside looking in will be like that kid's dead, the parents are going to hang on for hope, right? And not him. He's just like, all right. Well, I got to go get some coffee.
00:26:06 The young lady was there by herself. It doesn't make sense. God forbid if you have an injured child. People stay in the hospital for days. You don't just walk in and walk out.
00:26:17 And so that's that's kind of what led to the officers like that we just listened to having to go fetch him, and then, but they also noticed that even the the beat up wife didn't seem to ever ask how the kid was doing.
00:26:37 At no time up to this point had she asked me how Lisa was doing in the hospital, which I found again very suspicious.
00:26:47 So yeah, she just looks like she's so fucking mangled. And the other thing is, they noticed that she seemed kind of like a zombie. Like she seemed very robotic. She had a programmed phrase that she kept saying over and over and over again, within some monotone voice.
00:27:08 She actually talked in a programmed manner. All she said was, in quotes, "Joel is a wonderful husband and father who would never hit me or my daughter.
00:27:23 So yeah, yeah. So she's just going around saying that, and then they they take a look at her, and she had a gangrenous leg.
00:27:34 Oh my god! So she had she had not had any medical attention throughout the course of her history.
00:27:41 Not well, yeah, because that would well, she did a couple times. Like there, there's actually some reports where, in fact, at one point, her initial report is that she was beat by her husband, and then she crossed it out and said she like fell down or something like that. But there does exist a report where her she initially blames her husband, then changes her story.
00:28:05 And but for the most part, no, she never left the apartment. He would keep her in the apartment. He would starve her. He would fill up the bathtub full of ice water, and as a punishment, I guess, like force her to sit in like the ice water. This guy's you know like a real fucking psycho, but you know these are various bruises all over her body, like she was just covered in bruises, you know. And again, this is this is after this is what she looked like before, you know. Like that's pretty significant.
00:28:38 Had like big clumps of hair missing, and this is-I mean, this photo is really bad quality. But that was the-you know-that was the reason why she put on the the head covering that they were talking about later or earlier there. Now I found this this comment hilarious.
00:28:59 So obviously this makes the news, and everyone's talking about this crazy house where, like, these psychos beat a kid to death, and it's and it's not like the stories you would usually hear in New York City, where it's some welfare queen starving a kid to death or something like this. This these were like respectable people. It was a lawyer, you know. I can't believe this happened, but then this was just too much. This is actually a friend of the wife.
00:29:30 It was shocking. She was Jewish, and he was Jewish. It's like you know, we Jews don't do things like that.
00:29:39 Yeah, never. This has never happened before.
00:29:42 Jews don't do that. Oh no! Well, if Jews don't do, I wouldn't have a job if Jews didn't do that. You know. So obviously, live
00:29:52 chat earlier said that we should rename the show to "What Did Jews Do This Week?
00:29:56 Right. This week in Jewish history. Yeah, so obviously, what happened, and unfortunately, the they took the the daughter off life support, and you know, because she was brain dead, and she was so she was obviously beaten to death, and they went to trial. They tried Joel Steinberg with murder. They let the wife kind of off the hook because of her the state that she was in.
00:30:28 As long as she, I think the deal was, if she you know testified for the prosecution, then they wouldn't charge her with anything. But the reason they made the deal is they said she was she was also a victim, which I have problems with, you know. It's like, come on, like she was a grown person, and she was she was also a crackhead, you know. She was a crackhead, and she should have been fucking thrown in jail too. But yeah, absolutely.
00:30:54 Everybody in the documentaries I watched went so easy. They're like, she was brainwashed. I'm like, she let her kid die,
00:31:01 right? And she and just look. I mean, the other thing that was really weird is in interviews that they they had with her later on. She, I mean, she she's not like like 60 IQ. You know what I mean? Like she's smart enough to to reason, and if she's got like you know Jewish neuroticism, that's not an excuse.
00:31:24 You should still get the pit, just because you're neurotic and you look at some other Jew as like some kind of god. You get the pit, but you know she testified against Joel in the trial, and you know they talked about the the fatal head injuries, the obvious neglect and the abuse. You know her brother being tied to a chair, the the just the state that the house was in.
00:31:55 Also the you know witnesses like the neighbors that had seen kind of like the health of the daughter decline over the years, and it was just obvious, especially the the witnesses that that that backed up the fact that after he beat her to death, essentially, or left her for dead on the bathroom floor, that they went out and partied, and and then didn't call 911 until the next morning, until she was like extra dead, and so that was that was an easy conviction. Now, unfortunately, they only sentenced him to eight to 25 years, and how is
00:32:35 that possible?
00:32:36 Yeah, beat a little, be high on crack, and beat a little girl to death, and only get eight to 25 years, and which we'll get into a little bit more about why it's it's actually even worse than that. Then I found a young Bill O'Reilly, a very young, very young Bill O'Reilly interviewed Joel Steinberg in prison, and it was horrendous.
00:33:01 First of all, there he is. There's evil Jew Joel, and not only does he fake cry like worse than I've ever seen anyone fake cry. He just talks about how he's the victim the whole time. Like this is so this is so maddening right here, just watching this guy and knowing that he's already out of prison, because he is, he's already out of prison. So this is Bill O'Reilly interviewing him. It is live now, or it says it is. Okay, if if you can hear us, we don't know yet. The power went out.
00:33:42 Oh no. Oh no!
00:33:43 The power and it could go out again. And I
00:33:46 can't see anything on the screen. Does that matter?
00:33:49 You can't see. Oh, I can fix that for you. Actually,
00:33:52 there we go. Can
00:33:54 you see that now? Oh
00:33:55 man, yeah, I can see it.
00:33:57 Okay, so if you go to Rumble,
00:33:59 power went out. This is not my fault.
00:34:01 Is it working now? The the stream.
00:34:04 Let's see.
00:34:08 Yep, it is working. Okay, so we are live. I'm actually surprised by that because a lot of things went wrong when the power. See, it turns out computers don't like it when you just unplug them, which is essentially what happens when you have the power go out. So
00:34:24 it is a new stream.
00:34:26 Oh, it is a new one on oh what on YouTube or on Rumble on
00:34:30 YouTube.
00:34:31 Okay, well we can fake. We'll have to fake. Well, we'll have to fix it in post. So this will be fun. I'll get to edit all these fuck ups together into one giant fuck up. It'll
00:34:40 be totally seamless. Yeah,
00:34:42 no, it'll know. So I'll thank God you guys caught this live, right? So that you can you can sit through all this nonsense.
00:34:52 It was like two drops of rain. What happens out there?
00:34:55 I don't know. It's apparently, yeah, infrastructure not. Great, not so great.
00:35:02 It's gotten better though. I remember when I streamed with you like five years ago. You're like, okay, I could do the stream, but my internet only works from midnight to three a.m. I was like, what? Like a new baby. I'm like, this is not conducive with my lifestyle. I still did the show though.
00:35:16 Yeah. Well, that's the funny thing is like that's why it was. It turned. It was the insomnia stream. That's why, yeah, because I didn't, I didn't decide. Oh, I like being up all night long. My internet didn't just didn't work until midnight, and so that's when I had the stream. Well, so
00:35:31 mechanical problem would would even cause that.
00:35:34 Well, so it was before there was Starlink, and so I had to use this this quasi not super legal hot oh and we I thought we dropped again. It was just it was just another notification that came. I was like, God damn it! I was about to like fucking throw something.
00:35:55 Yeah, so the I was using like this. Basically, it was a hacked hotspot that was unlimited internet, but because of its hackiness and the way I got prioritized on the cell phone tower, it was like 2g until midnight, and then after midnight it would go to 4g, which I could make work. Like it, it wasn't great, but it would sort of work, and but then once Starlink came out, and then Starlink was kind of a mess when it first came out here, but now it yeah
00:36:26 it was. We used it on the Backlash. It was not great, not great. It was wildly expensive too.
00:36:31 Yeah, yeah, but you know. Okay, the good
00:36:33 news is that it's the same stream on Rumble, so we're yeah just watch it on Rumble. It's fine. Everything's fine.
00:36:39 Yeah, and and I'll I'll use the recordings on restream to just make one big long file, and we'll manually upload it to all the other platforms. So, anyway, we were about to get to we were talking about Bill O'Reilly's interview with the evil Jew and his fake cry. There he is. Oh, we. No one can see what I'm looking at. So hang on a second. He looks so
00:37:06 young. I remember. He looks so young. Not this Jew. No, no. There we go. That guy.
00:37:11 Yeah, yeah. So this is Bill O'Reilly before he was. Have you, by the way? So he's still around doing stuff. It's just on
00:37:19 podcast, doesn't he?
00:37:20 Yeah, and when he still does little bits on talk, like I'll catch him on talk radio occasionally. Yeah, and he he sounds so almost dead, like he he does he's he's he's
00:37:30 really old now, isn't
00:37:31 he? He's got to be well. Fuck! I mean, well, this would have been what 87, and he's probably I don't know. I what you think he's like 30, maybe there, or 20s, late 20s. So if he was 30 and 87, I mean that's 40 years ago. So he's in his 70s easily. I he's
00:37:51 76. Yeah.
00:37:52 So there you go. Yeah. So the yeah he last. I mean he's you can just barely tell it's him because he's so old sounding. But anyway, so Bill O'Reilly, I think at the time working for Inside Edition before Fox News even existed, interviewed Joel Steinberg in the prison, and Joel Steinberg, of course, being the ever suffering Jew, explained that how he was the victim of all this actually, and you know he was very, very distraught about his his daughter's death at his hands.
00:38:32 According to court testimony, it was 12 hours before paramedics were called to attend to the battered six-year-old. A medical expert testified that Lisa was beaten to death. Nussbaum pointed the finger at Steinberg, saying he hit Lisa repeatedly. Steinberg did not testify at his trial, but he does so now, saying that he was out of the apartment when Lisa's final injuries took place.
00:38:58 I have no idea what transpired that night. The scenario that the investigators created: she climbed up on the sink to get to the medicine cabinet to get to Heather's makeup, and she probably fell, scraped her back against the wall, and hit the wicker basket in the bathroom. Hedda said to the police at the time she was arrested, okay, to Detective Rivera, that everything that transpired in the house was her fault or her responsibility.
00:39:23 Are you guilty here of anything?
00:39:26 Yes. Yes.
00:39:29 What?
00:39:30 I trouble myself to wonder that if I could have only gotten into the hospital sooner, maybe you know, maybe he could do something. It bothers me. Oh,
00:39:39 the fake crying-the so obvious fake. Foodly, if I could have not been high on crack and waited a day to call 911, as my daughter was dying on the the floor of the bathroom, where apparently she fell off the counter and hit a wicker basket to death.
00:39:55 God, yeah, that's what he said. She just fell off a counter
00:39:59 and hit a wicker. You know that left a big
00:40:02 lie.
00:40:03 No, no, and his obvious fake cry, which he does again in this clip here.
00:40:09 You feel victimized by this whole thing.
00:40:11 Oh yeah, sure. And that's where I'm angry, and that's where I place my blame. In the
00:40:15 best terms that you can put it, because I know you've thought about it. How do you feel about Lisa?
00:40:23 That's too complicated a question. Both children of my life, I can't tolerate the losses.
00:40:38 That-that's supposed to be him crying. I just I can't tolerate it. Yeah, I mean it's it's fucking insane. And then this was really weird. Like apparently there were rumors going around that this was part of this. Where the Qards are going to be like, I knew it. There was rumors that there was involvement with a a satanic sex cult, and that satanic sex cult explained not only the death of the child but the condition of the wife because she was abused by the sadomasticus you know sex cult, and which the problem is just like with the Epstein files, like there was actual stuff in the Epstein files, or not much. All because, like I said before, they even got released. Anything we would get would be sanitized,
00:41:33 of course.
00:41:34 And you know, and they were, and but there were little tiny nuggets here and there. But the things that people would you know grab onto and and and for internet points spread around as and blow out of proportion or or outright lie about. There was a lot of stupid made up shit in the in the Epstein files, yeah, or or at least how people reported it. And similarly with satanic panic stuff in the 1980s, you had a situation where there really was a rise in Satanist stuff. You know, like there was serial serial killers that were carving pentagrams into people.
00:42:11 Like that's not made that happened. You had actual events, but because of the rise and because it kind of got in the same way, like QAnon stuff like derailed a lot of actual intelligent critiques of the deep state and things like that.
00:42:28 You had a lot of people sensationalize every story as like a satanic panic thing, and and and by doing that, they delegitimized the actual cases, and and so you see the exact same kind of thing playing out today with you know variety basically any news item at all now there's like stupid conspiracy theories about everything that fucking happens under the sun and and it makes it so it's impossible to discuss actual cases so that's kind of what was happening with the Satanic Panic, and specifically, he told his wife to make up that shit, or at least that's what she said later.
00:43:09 So here's, but here's here's Bill O'Reilly, you know, trying to because you know you work for Inside Edition, you hear something about Satan worshiping sex cults, and you're like, yeah. You got you got to ask about that. You know, I would. I mean, fuck if I worked at Inside Edition, I'd be all over that too. So here's here's Bill O'Reilly asking about the satanic sex cult stuff.
00:43:32 And I've seen references in her own handwriting to people who were involved with satanic cults and sadomasochism, and I've seen all that, but you will not confirm that for me. I
00:43:44 don't know that the satanic cults had any interest.
00:43:50 Well, you know what I'm talking about: kinky cults, S and M. I've seen it in her own hand, but you don't confirm for me.
00:44:00 I don't think that she ascribed to these areas or took a liking for them. I think she was victimized by the circumstances, and that's how
00:44:12 she became battered, victimized by other people, not you.
00:44:16 Well, when I mean by victimized,
00:44:18 well, she was beaten by someone. She
00:44:20 indicates that, but I don't. Please, you really, you know, you.
00:44:25 No, I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to get your story.
00:44:27 No, look.
00:44:27 Nusbaum told a therapist in 1984 that she was involved with a sex cult that practiced sadomasochism. Later, Nussbaum testified that Steinberg told her to make that story up. Steinberg denies that and says Nussbaum was a member of a cult. Nussbaum is now suing Steinberg for $3 million for the physical abuse she says he inflicted upon her. You did it. She said you were a terrible man.
00:44:52 No, she didn't.
00:44:54 She said you beat her.
00:44:57 And what did you say? No, I. I can't touch the issue.
00:45:01 He got violent with me, and he threw me to the floor. My nose was broken, obviously broken.
00:45:14 I don't know. The shit's on her.
00:45:16 Yeah, no, she should be in the pit.
00:45:18 Yo, for sure. Yeah,
00:45:20 she should absolutely be in the pit, and it's it's absurd that that she was never charged with anything, but she wasn't, and she walked away from. In fact, she still I think went back to publishing. You know, like
00:45:32 yeah, she did.
00:45:33 Apparently, the publishing world had no problem with with her being a crackhead, like at minimum, crackhead, neglectful mother. But it gets a lot worse than that actually. So the way it was reported in 87 was they tried to make the point that oh this shows that there's a problem with adoption, and the the context there is a
00:45:55 problem with adoption. We'll talk about this in a second. Well,
00:45:57 but the context that they were using it was a lot of people were offering adoption as like an alternative to abortion, right? And and that's kind of what happened with this, which we'll we'll explain in a second. And so they said, "Well, the system failed this little girl, little Lisa Steinberg, slipped through the cracks, and and all this other nonsense. That's how they phrased it. And so, if you were at home, you would think that she was adopted from an adoption agency, and neglected, and eventually beat to death by a murderous crackhead Jew. And so, because you know, this is how it was reported.
00:46:38 Six-year-old Lisa Steinberg, whose adoptive parents are charged with her brutal murder? Those who gathered tonight to honor Lisa had their own special reasons to be touched by the child's death. Many were mothers who had given up their babies. Some were children who had been given away. Carol Jenkins reports.
00:46:54 Yeah, so that was the framing. Like here's here's one of the the people they interview. And
00:46:58 we're hoping that people who are in charge of adoption will start to see that it's not a total solution to a problem. In fact, in many ways, it creates more problems than it solves. The
00:47:09 problem in Lisa's case was that her adoptive father, Joel Steinberg, was able to gain custody without filing court papers, without any city or state approval. As the group gathered outside the Steinberg home. They wept openly for Lisa. Tears of sadness for a
00:47:25 well. See, it's weird. They kind of gloss over that. They're just like, well, the problem is, this Jew didn't actually adopt her legally. Well, now we're going to talk about something else. It's like, well, hold on, hold on.
00:47:36 Wait a second.
00:47:38 Yeah, let's let's go back to what? How did he get a little kid then? Well, how did he get two kids actually? And the answer to that question is actually human
00:47:48 trafficking.
00:47:49 Yeah, no Jewish human trafficking. So the the mother, the the birth mother of Lisa, was a Roman Catholic who got pregnant, and she went to her OB/GYN, who was a Jew, and everyone that worked in the office-the receptionist was a Jew, the nurse was a Jew, and they were friends with the Steinbergs, who obviously were also Jews, and Joel Steinberg had reached out to this doctor who was never investigated because he died before any kind of investigation could take place, and and basically said, "I want to buy a kid, but because they're Jews, right?
00:48:39 It
00:48:39 gets even better because they're Jews, they don't actually buy the kid; they got paid to steal a kid. Yeah, because why? Why pay the goyim anything? So they they what happened was the mother came in said, "I want to put up my kid for adoption because I think it was like a an instance where her high school boyfriend was going away for college. Then they, you know, whatever, yada yada yada. We're Catholic, and so you know, and we don't use condoms. So they instead they pump out tons of kids they can hand out to Jews for apparently satanic sex rituals. But anyway, so they
00:49:17 before the show, Devon was like, "Don't look into too much. I got lots of surprises on this show. He wasn't joking. Yeah,
00:49:24 yeah, yeah. So the the the way it went down was the the Jewish doctor said, yeah, all you need to do is pay $500 because that's normal. That's just how it works. You pay $500 to this lawyer, who is a an adoption agency lawyer, and he'll make sure that your kid gets placed in some rich guy's house in Manhattan, and in fact, will even he'll you can stay at his house for like the last three months of the pregnancy, and.
00:50:00 That way, it's it's just you know you just show up and they'll pay for you to live there and then they'll just take the baby and kick you out and you know for $500 great deal. Well, really, what it was anyways they wanted to keep her there so that no one that like doctors and whatnot wouldn't know that a baby was born, and so that Jews could control the you know the whole process from the birth to transferring the kid
00:50:24 to oh my god
00:50:26 yeah yeah yeah yeah so and this obviously wasn't like some new thing, and in fact it it was still a in operation when they decided six years later to get the other baby the Mitchell Steinberg right the one they tied to a fucking chair, yeah. So that that that. Oh, and by the way, they got the second one when they were already smoking crack and doing coke all day long. Did they not do
00:50:49 any background checks? Did they not like come and look at their house or do any? Who who would do it? These are just these are
00:50:54 just Jews do Jews hooking Jews up with with goy. So it is straight
00:50:59 up child trafficking.
00:51:00 No, it was. It was well. You could even say it was like breeding, because it was both the kids they had were boys, and they they, I mean, they basically stole kids, and so they acted like it was like, oh, the system failed, and it's like, no, this they didn't. The system wasn't used. This was Jewish human trafficking, and from start to finish, and they never obviously they never framed it like that or even discussed it in those terms. And so here I found in that same Bill O'Reilly thing, Bill O'Reilly got the mother. This is the look at her. That's that's that's some hair right there. That's
00:51:42 your that's your problem with her whole situation. She looks like a thumb.
00:51:46 That's that's that's like the she looks like a poodle if if you smashed its face in.
00:51:53 I know her cheek and mouth chin situation is much worse than that hair.
00:51:58 And what's up with those glasses?
00:52:01 That's easy to change.
00:52:02 1980s women had glasses like that, and yeah, it was tragic.
00:52:08 It never made any excellent era
00:52:09 for hair, irrespective of what we're witnessing here.
00:52:12 No, this this looks like a mullet. This is like what is a mullet? It's like a a girl mullet. What would what do you call a female mullet? A
00:52:22 mullet.
00:52:23 Yeah, of course. A famulet. Why'd you get there before me?
00:52:28 I don't know. So she's got a famulet, and so Bill O'Reilly shows her those clips we played earlier of the of the the murderous crackhead Jew talking about how he's the real victim. Boo hoo, boo hoo! I'm crying for real, and this is what she says about the the process.
00:52:46 You gave Joel Steinberg Lisa because he was a lawyer, and you. I did not
00:52:51 give Lisa to Joel Steinberg.
00:52:54 What happened?
00:52:54 He was supposed to be arranging the adoption with another couple.
00:52:58 Okay, that's what I meant. But you felt that he was a lawyer, and that he would provide a good home for Lisa. As
00:53:04 what I was told by him, by my doctor, by the nurse in the doctor's office, and by the receptionist in the doctor's office. All Jews. They all knew each other. Every day they kept telling me, "Don't worry about a thing. Everything will be all right. For three months, they told me this every day. And so, when you're dealing with professionals, you expect them to be professional. Unfortunately, they were not.
00:53:30 When you first met Steinberg, did you feel that he was different in any way? Did you get any sense of him?
00:53:36 Just he was a bit overbearing, intimidating, but nothing with the bizarreness that he turned out to be. No. Do
00:53:44 you have any personal regrets about all this? Anything you felt you could have done differently?
00:53:48 I would have done the whole thing differently. There's a lot of regrets.
00:53:53 Never would have given the baby up.
00:53:54 No way.
00:53:56 Well, this is her fault too. What the hell was she doing? These people are insane.
00:54:00 Yeah. There's no. There's no like good guys in this story really, it's just like it's just New York in the '80s, I guess. Yeah, it's just how it was, I suppose. But yeah, so it was Jewish human trafficking, and that never got raised as like, wow, this whole story is just really Jewy, because first you like if you really if you honestly told the story of this,
00:54:25 it would be a gangster Jew lawyer who keeps Jewish criminals out of prison, or at least that's his job, who smokes crack and does coke with his Jewish wife, who he beats up, talked to his Jewish OB/GYN buddy and his gang of his gaggle of Jews, like the receptionist and the nurses, who then trick goy women like the girl with the famulet and steal goy babies that they then. Beat to death while smoking crack. Like that's that's the story, and that is not the framing that you will see anywhere other than right here at Outlaws.
00:55:15 Oh man, there was a failure at every people were suspicious of Jews, appropriately suspicious of Jews. Then perhaps none of this would have happened, right?
00:55:25 Right. No, and that's the the crazy thing is, is by the 1980s. See, what happened was in the 1970s they started. Well, that's when you first start hearing about the so called Holocaust, right? And they they had the mini series called the Holocaust, and that was like the the brand rollout for the Holocaust. It was in the 1970s. It starred the that that the old battle ax from The Devil Wears Prada. What's her name again?
00:55:56 Meryl Streep.
00:55:57 Yeah. So Meryl Streep. In fact, that's the funny thing. The cast, the all the Jews in the in the in the TV miniseries, the Holocaust. None of them are Jews. They're all they're all Gentiles, including, in fact, that that Turbo Boomer on on X. He's in it too. Not Kevin Bacon. I always want to call him Kevin Bacon. We have no
00:56:24 idea who you're talking about.
00:56:25 It doesn't matter. He's some Zionist boomer, but like they they they had this miniseries which I've watched, and it's it's as cartoonish as you would think. And by the 1980s, no, like everyone was was you know it was already begotten had already begun like the Jews are like these ever suffering people.
00:56:45 I've done a ton of streams over you know the last several years about all the different propaganda pieces that came out well before Schindler's List, and by the time the '90s rolled around, you had Schindler's List and Seinfeld, and like you know we were full on You know, Jew-loving country by the 1990s, which is why they felt comfortable doing 9/11. But yeah, so that that's what was going on in the 80s is no one would frame it like like what it actually was, and part of that too. If you look at the names of the because this is New York, which was extremely well and still is extremely Jewish. A lot of the investigators are Jewish.
00:57:24 Like the prosecutor was Jewish. They I don't know if the judge was, but I mean there's probably a really good chance of it. I I just don't remember what their name was. So all the people investigating it were Jewish. The media organizations involved in reporting on this were Jewish. In fact, when they rehabilitated Nosebaum in her career, she was on Larry King, also Jewish, so that she could sound like the the abused, you know, victim in this case, and the the sentencing of the of Steinberg of of eight to 20, there he is.
00:58:03 There, he was released, I think, in 2004. So I don't know if he's still. I would assume he's probably. I mean, he's probably really old now, but I'm assuming he's still alive, and he's been out of jail for 22 years. You know, I look up Joel Steinberg, see if he's still. Yeah, look at his. I sent you the Wikipedia page. It'll probably stay on his Wikipedia page if he's still around. I'll race you. Let me see if I can find it before you do.
00:58:31 He's still alive. He's 85. I
00:58:32 was muted. There we go. So we got Joel Steinberg out there. Who knows? Probably still smoking crack. I guess I probably would too if I was 85 and I was a child murderer. But yeah, so this was that's the story of the Steinbergs. I guess is his wife. She's well. She worked in publishing until she retired. He got out of jail. She she
00:58:59 apparently had some kind of normal life advocating for women of domestic violence.
00:59:05 Oh yeah,
00:59:06 we never have a serious conversation about women of domestic violence being a part of their own domestic violence. They're like, I was so scared to leave. It's like, well, you brought children into the situation, so you know what was the plan here?
00:59:19 And you were smoking crack with him, and going out to parties with him, and it's not like he he never left the house. You could have left the house and taken the kids with you at any time. That's
00:59:31 definitely true at any time. Yeah, I think there's all. I think we should also discuss some adoption things here.
00:59:38 All right. Yeah, you you seemed like you were like ready to. Yeah, you had a thing or two to say about the adoption thing.
00:59:44 Well, I always do. I'm conflicted about this. You know, I have kids, and it would be really difficult for me to adopt a child and to love that child as though it were my biological child. That being said, it is a prevention for abortion. It's an exit strategy for. Women that want to have an abortion, but I think it's somewhat dysfunctional in its very nature to adopt a baby and like raise the baby as your own biological, especially because these children were goy. Now, normally, I would think that he was trying to torture the goy children, but he was torturing his Jewish wife too. So I think he was just a psychopath.
01:00:20 Well, see, here's the thing: is I feel like that's where adoption you usually see these these issues is when you have like a white family adopt a black kid, or you know, like when you have you know people that are genetically distant adopting children because you know it's I think twofold one. One, they're not going to respond the same way that a kid who's because it's not. It's not even like if you adopt a black kid.
01:00:49 Like there's all those horror stories about people adopting like the the Russian kids who end up like murdering the you know like the family or something like that. Yeah, it's you you adopt these kids who are genetically distant from you? Your parenting style is not going to work because your parenting style it was developed through, you know, your it's a product of your biology, and so you you have that problem.
01:01:14 But also, kind of like you were saying, you're like you know I I don't think I could love an adopted kid as much as your your your own children, well, that's a product of genetic distance, also. So if you had a if you adopted a kid, if you adopted like your sister's kids, right? You
01:01:30 oh yeah yeah that
01:01:31 would be different because the genetic closeness would be such that it would be you know it would you probably wouldn't even I mean there'd be a little difference but it wouldn't be as different is like adopting, you know, some random person, and the further away you get, then I think the further away you get in terms of the parents actually having that connection and that feeling that responsibility towards that child. You know what I mean?
01:01:53 Yeah, yeah, that's true. I don't know something about. I think it's watching all these Christian couples adopt black children, so the genetic distance thing is a that that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, but they're always acting like they're equal to their other children. I'm like, oh, who was that lady?
01:02:12 What was her name? Let me know live chat. She lived in Spokane and she was pretending to be white. She worked at Gonzaga. Her name is Rachel. Was it like Delazol or something like
01:02:20 that? Oh yeah, yeah. The trans black lady.
01:02:24 Yeah. Do you remember the mess up situation of her upbringing?
01:02:29 No. What was up with that? Okay.
01:02:31 So her parents-they were super Christian. She had a, of course, white brother, and then her parents adopted two black kids, I believe. And then since they were, you know, multiculturalists, they treated them preferentially. The black kids, and so it gave her a complex as a child. I always actually kind of felt bad for her because because she kind of was brought into the world in this really dysfunctional situation.
01:02:55 So she created this like identity to try to appeal her her worth to her parents, based on having a black identity, but she got right through the coals. I mean, she somewhat deserved it because she was lying about her race. But you know, her parents put her in an incredibly dysfunctional situation.
01:03:14 I think she's on cameo. We should get her to do like a promo for the show.
01:03:18 I don't know. I always felt bad for her. Isn't that messed up? She's also an an amazing artist. Amazing,
01:03:24 she is.
01:03:25 Yes, her artwork is spectacular.
01:03:29 What? Hold on, I gotta. We gotta look this up. I don't believe it. Actually, a little. What kind of art is it?
01:03:36 Some of it's hyperrealist. Some of it is a surrealist.
01:03:40 How do you spell her last name? It's like it's
01:03:42 D O L E Z A L. She's she's truly a fine artist. Like she only paints like the black people and stupid crap like that. But like, why would I want to
01:03:55 see that? Because she
01:03:56 has a an excellent technique. That's like say,
01:03:59 oh, she's really good at art, but all she can draw is pictures of dog shit. It's like, oh, good. No, but it's hyper realistic dog shit.
01:04:08 No, I mean what I mean is that she's very, very talented.
01:04:12 She is her art.
01:04:14 She has some some still lifes here that are that are good.
01:04:21 Well, I mean, it's it. I I'll tell you what. Let me bring this up here. If you happen to be in the market for are you going to brand
01:04:36 the worst
01:04:37 one? No, I'm just saying if you're in the market, if you want to on your wall, hang up a hyper realistic picture of dog shit. She is your woman, because look at this. That's a pretty realistic. Very
01:04:50 talented. Okay,
01:04:52 that's a realistic little niglet right there. So I don't
01:04:57 know. Come on, just let me feel bad for somebody.
01:05:01 I don't know. Some
01:05:01 empathy left.
01:05:02 It's hard to feel bad for her when. Oh man, this is kind of funny. And this, so hold on, let me bring this up. What was the name of that guy? Used to be on PBS, and he would do like, and there's little happy cloud. Bob Ross.
01:05:17 Yeah, so she's got like she even has the hair. Check this out. This is this is her. I guess pretending to be Bob Ross.
01:05:28 Oh, I did just get a message that she was a total mud shark skank. That is also true. She's
01:05:33 like, there's a little happy niglet, and there's another little. Let's just add a little happy niglet over here.
01:05:38 Do a little, little nappy hair.
01:05:42 There we go.
01:05:43 Nappy hair.
01:05:44 That's that's nice. Now that looks like a, a race riot. So, all right. Well, yeah. I don't know. I don't know if I can get on board with your sympathy for this maniac, but it is
01:05:58 insane to adopt two black children, and then give them preferential treatment to your biological white children. Can you imagine the complex that would give you as a child? That's major childhood trauma. I can see how it manifested in this very bizarre way. Now, her having three black kids from three different black fathers-that's unforgivable. But the childhood trauma will will take her through to like faking that she's black. I can forgive that the the black fakery. I can I can get over that.
01:06:27 She still goes in the pit though, because that's like saying, look, I know he's a tranny rapist, but he was abused when he was seven. It's like, yeah, that that part sucks, but he's a tranny rapist now, so he goes in the pit.
01:06:38 Okay, she goes in the pit. I don't think I would stop you from putting her in the pit. I'm just saying that I would feel bad when it happened. Is that okay?
01:06:48 Well, I guess it's okay to have some feelings, but this is why I've got to be in charge of the pit, and you need to be nowhere near.
01:06:57 You are a monster.
01:06:58 I'm not a monster. She's white.
01:07:00 You're just gonna throw her in the pit. I can't believe anybody ever believed that she's so obviously white.
01:07:06 Yeah, but like the you know the tranny tranny pedos are are white some of them, and I'd still put them in the pit, right? Okay,
01:07:14 all right, fine.
01:07:15 You know. All right. So anyway, did you have anything else to say about adoption? You sound. You seemed like you had like this whole like soapbox you were going to get on. I'm
01:07:25 deep. I'm just deeply conflicted about it. So I always like to hear what people have to say about it because you know I do like that it gives people away an option aside from abortion. But I think the entire concept is bizarre. Is truly truly bizarre. I also grew up next to this family that had only adopted children, and they were just so weird. It was like some kind of darkness had settled over their home. I always was like, "This is bizarre. These are strange folk.
01:07:51 By the darkness that settled over their home, do you mean like the niglets? No, they
01:07:56 adopted three white kids, but the kids looked nothing alike. They looked nothing like the parents, and they were like one of those weird homeschool families.
01:08:05 Oh yeah, you
01:08:05 know, like where they wore uniforms at home and stuff. I was always like, this arrangement creeps me out. I can't really put my. Were they Mormon?
01:08:12 No, I don't think so.
01:08:13 Because sometimes that happens. Sometimes I guess that's
01:08:16 not the weirdest thing. Maybe I would view it differently now, but I always found it bizarre as a child,
01:08:21 well, I'll tell you, I've talked to actually even based people who are well formerly unbased, currently based people who, in their more naive years, decided to adopt non-white children, thinking they were you know buying into the propaganda. You know, they like they saw too many of the commercials with like the flies walking on some black kid's eyeball or something like that, and they were like, "Oh, we got to do something, and they got a black kid. And part of what made them base today was watching the black kids side by side with their white children develop in totally different ways, in ways that suggested biological differences that were insurmountable. Dude, that's
01:09:08 messed up. You do.
01:09:10 What's that?
01:09:11 In what you do, you're like, oh no. Well, that's
01:09:13 the problem, right? Because like you've already. I mean, look, if it was me, I would just, yeah, I, I don't care if the warranties expired. I'd return them anyway. You know, I just even I'll just stick them in the box. I think you can just
01:09:25 fake adopted kids back.
01:09:26 Yeah, you just put them back in the box and return to sender. And like, have you seen? By the way, did you see that? There's a 48 hours where they literally did that with one of these feral Russian kids. I was just gonna bring that
01:09:38 up. I just listened to that one. Okay, so for those of you not familiar, this family adopted this Russian girl and a son. I think from Ukraine or something. The son's totally fine. The Russian girl just keeps trying to murder the toddler. She's doing like like crazy stuff all the time. She's super violent. That she can't be left alone. So the parents finally get fed up. They do. They. Do a lot. They take her to therapy, and they do all the you know nice white person stuff to try to deal with this this derelict child. And then eventually they're like, "Well, we're they just take her back to the orphanage in Russia and just like drop
01:10:11 and just left.
01:10:12 It's like peace out. I'm listening to this, and I'm like totally on the parents' side. Although good for you.
01:10:18 Did you know there's a part two to that
01:10:20 where she interviews and she says that they were abusive to her, right? And she acts like, yeah, yeah. So
01:10:26 I do wonder about that. I feel like it's a little weird that parents would just make that shit up, but yeah, I saw that. Well, maybe they wanted
01:10:35 some kind of social cover for returning their adopted child, which to most people would seem just unpalatable.
01:10:42 I don't know. It seemed also very complicated. It seemed like a lot of steps to go through to just get rid of the kid that you had like buyer's remorse on. You know what I mean? Yeah,
01:10:50 yeah. And they took her to therapy, and they spent a lot of money trying to correct her behavioral problems. It was well documented throughout her childhood. And
01:10:57 the therapist said that she was trying to murder the kid, and she said on camera, like they interviewed her in the in the episode, and she's like, "Yeah, I wanted to kill him.
01:11:05 Yeah,
01:11:05 and so it's like, you know, and then then of course there's that one where they they adopt that that kid from Russia who ends up being like a 28 year old midget. Have you seen that one?
01:11:17 Yeah, and she's like trying to bang the dad
01:11:19 or whatever and kill him with an ax and stuff.
01:11:22 There's a documentary about this Ukrainian midget. To be fair, I don't know
01:11:29 what comes up when you when you Google Ukrainian midget.
01:11:32 Natalia Grace is Ukrainian-born orphan with a rare form of dwarfism who became the focus of international sensation, reminiscent of the movie Orphan. Her adoptive American parents, Michael and Christine, claim she was an adult scam artist pretending to be a child, while Natalia maintained she was a child when she was abandoned, and she tried to kill people too. She did not look like a child; she looked like a Ukrainian midget.
01:11:56 Well, so just because I just like Ukrainian midget. I asked Grok to to make a picture of Ukrainian midget, and it made dudes. Let me do a female Ukrainian midget. Let's. I just think that would be a a broad. Let's let's see what what kind of kind of results we get for female Ukrainian midget. That works. All right, so you ready for?
01:12:23 Let's see it.
01:12:23 This is kind of what she looked like, actually. Oddly,
01:12:26 AI on the fly.
01:12:27 Let me pop this up here. Isn't this? This is so. This is the hard hitting content that we got. Is AI? That's basically what she looked like.
01:12:38 That looks like her.
01:12:44 So yeah. Anyway, I guess should we go over super chats before the power goes out again?
01:12:50 Yeah, sure, sure. Light on the super chats today. I understand this wasn't a very good stream.
01:12:59 Yeah, yeah, my bad. It's
01:13:00 okay. Not everyone's going to be a banger. It's not your fault. Let's see. Lake says, "Great show. Thank you. Thank you for that. We really do appreciate it. That was a big donation too. Monkey Ad says, "What's a study called that shows whites have more guilt than other races? You've mentioned it before. Is this true?
01:13:20 Yes, there is. Oh fuck! the The details escape me, but yes, there is real conclusive psychological data that shows that white people experience guilt more deeply and more often Than non-whites,
01:13:41 yeah.
01:13:43 I don't know. I don't remember what the like because there. I know there's like evolutionary psychology or psychological reasons for it, and or at least there's you know obviously that's all theoretical, but I know there's theories on that, but there is conclusive data that shows that white people feel guilt more often and more deeply.
01:14:10 Yep, yeah, I understand. Alchemist says, "I just want to sandwich. I appreciate your hard work, Devon. You too, Rebecca. You're on my channel, buddy. Got to put my name first. You're truly required viewing for anyone new to these topics, such as Ukrainian midgets, he didn't say that. I watch the show with my wife, though, so clean up the language. Love you though. My mom did tell me that. She's like, you need to work on your potty mouth. It's unbecoming, and I think maybe she's right.
01:14:33 Did she talk about me?
01:14:35 No, of course not.
01:14:36 Okay, I was about to say some naughty words about your mom. Just kidding. Oh
01:14:45 no, no. Romega says, "Growing up in New York City in the '80s, surrounded by watermelon felons. I like that. Bananarama, spicaroos. That's new. And desert demons. I learned one thing: we are not the same, and no religion is going to change that fact. You guys. Stop coming at me, okay? I have some things to figure out with Catholicism, and I need to be removed from outside pressures to come to these conclusions on my own. I know it's a problem. I know it's a problem. I'll talk to my priest about it. See what he says. Jacob Winkleman says, "Good show, thank you, Jacob. Alchemist also says, "Curious to know Devon's thoughts on the current state of mainstream conservatism, we have Andrew Wilson e-bagging his audience for $300,000 so we can fight the good fight by debating Candace Owens on how Charlie died. Is this true? I haven't even heard about this.
01:15:31 I mean, I saw something about that on the timeline. I don't understand why. What's the actual? I don't know why he needs $300,000 to do it. She probably
01:15:40 said that she would do it for that amount of money, right?
01:15:43 Well, I thought though, I thought even like Joe Rogan was going to host her. I don't know. Like I, I here's the thing. The reason I've stayed out of that whole stupid thing is it it doesn't help white people. Like it it literally. Here's the thing. Even if you had proof that the Jews killed Charlie Kirk, nothing changes because because you we have proof that Jews do all kinds of things and nothing changes. So why why is all this energy being put into something where nothing changes if you prove it? Nothing. And by the way, you're never going to convince anyone else, right? You're not going to convince like the people that you would need to convince for it to matter. It's it. You're not going to convince, and so putting this much energy, and then especially when like the the face of this is a crazy black woman who doesn't didn't know that there was a relation between thunder and lightning until like she was an adult. I mean, there there is not not great. Like it doesn't make any sense why there's so much energy being put into this, and so I just stay out of it because it's just stupid. Plus, I'm not gonna lie, I think it's it's just some like tranny Mormon kid. Like when they report the first day that when they're like, "Oh, it's this guy, I've I've known Utah Mormons that are just like that guy. Like the thing
01:17:10 about these conspiracy theories is they get so convoluted that sometimes you just have to trust your gut instinct about whether or not something rings true, rather than get lost in the weeds about you know bone density or whatever the fuck else Candace Owens has been talking about. So like my instinct when I saw this story was like that rings true. Now that's not evidence, but I haven't seen a lot of convincing evidence that it was the Jews. Yes, they have motive, but as we talk about all the time, motive doesn't equate to evidence. It's actually not a huge part of criminal conviction motive,
01:17:42 right?
01:17:43 So I don't know. I I need more than motive, as always.
01:17:48 Yeah, I'll be the first to admit I was I was very surprised to see the comments that Charlie Kirk was making in private about Jews, considering his public comments in the very you know stark contrast, although he made a few public comments that were also kind of eyebrow lifting, I get it. But again, it doesn't change anything. Like even if you had like here's the video of of like you know Joel Steinberg, crack smoking Jew working also working for the Mossad shooting Charlie Kirk in the face, no, no one would care. Like no one would care. It's like the thing
01:18:25 that I've learned from Charlie Kirk is that if you get shot in the face, people will totally rewrite your narrative in a positive light, because he just spent his entire career just taking like mounds of Jew gold, right? Just, just amassing Jew gold and shitting on white nationalists and shitting on white nationalists, and then he says like one thing in text about the Jews and like maybe walks it back a little bit on Megyn Kelly and everyone's like he was on our side. I'm like, no, he wasn't. He wasn't on our side. Like I'm sad that he got killed or whatever, but you know we have to we have to look at a person's life and who they were when they were alive, rather than just totally rewrite their life story when something tragic happens.
01:19:07 No, but didn't you know he was about to be Hitler? The the Jews had to stop the next Hitler, who was known as Charlie. Understand that
01:19:14 Turning Point had a lot of influence, but if Charlie Kirk like got up there and was like, "Kill all the Jews, do you think that Turning Point would just suddenly become anti-Semitic? Like I don't. I don't. No, they would really. Yeah, he would
01:19:26 lose all his access. Yeah, because that's that's what that's the only thing that made Turning Point Turning Point, and is the only thing that keeps them an organization is that they have the ties to the Zionists, and so that's the thing that that's how all these people that become tier one influencers, the the only way you become and remain a tier one influencer with access to, you know, actual politicians and newsmakers and and whatnot, so that you can have the exclusive interview with you know Zionist politician A. Or B or whoever is if if you suck Ju Dick all day long, and so the second you stop sucking Judick, you don't get the exclusives. You don't get you know you get kicked out of the the Slack chat that you know the group chats that all the other Judick sucking tier one influencers are in. You you lose out on all the non profit money that is distributed in the background, and you know you you cease to exist. So if he had decided, I mean, because let's let's face it, I mean Charlie Kirk was not exactly like some super charismatic leader by any means. He looked like a weirdo, and he and he and and and he and he was intellectually mediocre, you know, and it wasn't like I don't think he was a threat to anybody. But anyway, as far as like the you know the e grifting needing $300,000 to do a debate, debates are stupid too because debates never they
01:20:55 never leak anything ever right.
01:20:57 It's just it's spectacle. It never gets. I've never watched the debate and be like, "Wow, I never thought of it that way. I my whole worldview just changed. Thanks, you know Ben Shapiro or you know whatever. Like that's never fucking happened, and and so it's really it's just a spectacle for people that have different viewpoints, and so they can be they can own someone else, right?
01:21:19 Yeah.
01:21:19 And so I I've never understood the debate me bro culture that exists on the on the internet, other than it is it's almost it exists for grifting. So,
01:21:31 of course, I want $300,000. How do I how do I get $300,000? Sometimes I regret not taking the not taking the path, you know, of of
01:21:41 e-grifting,
01:21:42 of e-grifting. Yeah, I do. I mean, I I I knew that this was going to happen, right? That we were all going to get put in some weird internet corner making no money, and I still did it anyway. I think it would have been a betrayal to myself. But sometimes I'm like, I really wish I had some of that Jew money right now. That'd be that'd be real nice. Sure would be real nice.
01:22:01 Ah, I don't know. I, I mean, I, I had, I had access to it.
01:22:05 I could have gone straight. You could have gone straight too. We both chose not to.
01:22:10 Yeah, but I, I don't know. I don't, I don't regret it. I, I, I, in fact, like, it, it'd be like it's just, I don't know, it's, it's Jew money. You know, it's like the worst kind of money, really.
01:22:22 Yeah, it really is.
01:22:24 There's a lot of it. There is a lot. But anyway, all right, you got another one there, or do you want to? Oh no, I'm
01:22:33 done. Sorry.
01:22:34 Okay, let's see if. All right, we got Love of Division says, here's something to help defray operational costs. Halo made this comment. Ed Gain, Gain, Boston Strangler, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Zodiac Killer, Son of Sam. Yeah, Jews don't do this stuff. This is why I say when the Jews rejected, they inherited Satan. I think he meant rejected Christ. They inherited Satan. Yeah. Yeah. Look, the yeah the the idea that Jews don't aren't like mass murdering scumbags to a probably disproportionate degree. Yeah, that's absurd. But like that was the viewpoint that everyone was given, you know. Oh, Jews wouldn't do that.
01:23:23 Yeah,
01:23:25 Jews wouldn't do that at all. All right, then we got had to go. I had to open up a different menu to see these things because of the power outage. But I think I got everything here. We got Drafwark says nose bombs are all those third world turds. They are dropping into Western nations. But um bump.
01:23:50 But um um. Isn't it noose bomb? Do they really say nose bomb?
01:23:54 I was saying nose bomb because it was funnier. But yeah, I think it's it's noose bomb or something. But whatever. Then we got Asterless 725 Nimble something with an M Mexicans. Let's see here another example of disgusting Jewish behavior. They never seem to stop. That is true. Then we got a great big dodo, great big dodo from Herp Derp, always with the big guns. Herp Derp says a joke about the Marine Corps is that the only thing they prepare you to do when you get or when you get out is to be homeless. The funny thing is, it's only a joke if you treat it like one. Anyway, replay gang. Well, I'll tell you what, Herb Derp. Hopefully, we have this mess of an episode sewed together into one coherent stream that you can watch when it is replay time. So that's what I'll be doing after the show. But yeah,
01:24:59 only for YouTube.
01:25:00 No, it probably fucked up every platform. Rumble might have. Rumble sometimes seems well. You never know when it drops out if it actually like ends up fine. But Rumble sometimes is surprisingly good at this. But YouTube fucks up. Odyssey definitely will be fucked up. And I'm streaming a bit shoot for some reason because I decide why not, and who knows what I'm not going to check. I don't think. Sorry, good bit shoot guys. All right, then we got Churro's Great Adventures. All right, first time I've seen that name. Churro's Great Adventures says I'm already looking forward to autistically sharing your new book, you two keep doing what you're doing. Everyone else share the show, share PatCon, share Defiant. Well, there appreciate that Churro's great adventures. In fact, Churro's probably on a great adventure right now because there now there is apparently the storm that didn't exist that took the power out must have existed somewhere else where there were power lines because now it's here, so it's we we might lose power again for all I know. Anytime there's weather, I lose power. So there's wet there's current weather. Yeah, any weather. If it's you know it's not if it's just not like well it's not sunny and hot, then the power might not work. All right, so then we got Fire Farter says before the power goes out again. Thanks for the show. There you go. And then we got Tomohawk says Devon, the Saturday show was so disheartening. I wanted to find a cave in the wilderness and live out the rest of my days as a hermit, I knew things were bad, but damn,
01:26:48 yeah. Well,
01:26:49 the did you did you see Saturday Show, 88 edition?
01:26:54 Yeah,
01:26:55 yeah. I mean, I thought it was it had like a like a feel good story though. You know, the story of the the lynching and what was that eight or 19 was it 1918 or something I forget no no it was 1899 there was yeah that was a heartwarming lynching story in fact I I looked up the address that was in that newspaper article where they were like little I forget the girl's name. It was like little Lisa went to go get an ax, and then some nig tried to rape her, and so they all shot. They shot him with 200 bullets and crushed his skull and hung him from a lamp post. I mean, it was it was pretty brutal. I'm I'm I'm actually not even including all the details that were in that news news report, but I looked up the address that they because they give the you know little Lisa's address, and it the building's still there. Like it's still you know the address. I mean it's it's the exact building. You can tell it's from you know it's like a a few 100 years old. But the I was thinking it'd be cool to put a marker there, you know that says like this here is where little Lisa, you know yeah barely escaped with her innocence when attacked from a from a crazed Negro that the town put down like the wild animal that he was.
01:28:11 Do it. We should we we
01:28:13 should start planting plaques like that, like just to see how long they stay. You know, I wonder I wonder how hard it is to manufacture a plaque like that. The
01:28:22 Anne Franka tree around here never makes it long.
01:28:25 Well, there you go. Maybe we should we should do
01:28:27 seriously. People will just chop it down.
01:28:30 Would they Would they chop it down a hanging tree? Like if we plant a tree and put this is the hanging tree. Yes. Commemorate the the white solidarity that produced countless instances of vigilante justice across this great nation. That's what we should do. Start planting hanging trees. All right. Then we got Tomahawk again says, "Don't throw them or the mud shark artist in the pit. Put them in the roof hole. That's right. We I I forgot. We need to have we we need to we need to bring back some. We need to find some more roof hole stories.
01:29:08 Yeah.
01:29:09 I wonder if we. I wonder if that exists. I wonder if that because on one hand I'm like that town was just really creative, you know, making that roof hole and and burning that Negro up. But maybe that was just like the custom at the time,
01:29:20 yeah, maybe that's an
01:29:22 underreported. Maybe that's a lost part of our culture and tradition that needs to be revived. All right, then we got-I don't know how you say that. Ang Angarad Angarad Celtic, perhaps. I think I pronounced that maybe right. Says I feel sorry for Dolizal, all or yeah, Rachel Dolezal as well. Her parents made her crazy. Her parents adopted four Nogs. She is unwhite though. She is trans nog. She calls herself. Kichi Amara de la Lala, something like that. Good lord! All right, then we got Snow Jewels with a generous dono says, "Replay gang here. Love the show. First time dono. Keep up the great work. Just told my husband that I see that wacky Dulazal chick in the picks, fuck that bitch. Have a great night. Well, there you go. We got we got some sympathy and some rage towards the Transnog. All right, let's see here if we got any new ones past the ones. Oops, that I read there. A lot of scrolling here. We do okay. So we got one from Night Train. Night Train, a a friend of the show says every goddamn time. That's that's true. Every single every single time. Thank you very much, Night Train. Then we got Paulo Eagleton says Dave Own James Woods. Yes, that was the name I was thinking of. James Woods is the turbo boomer in the Holocaust series. You are right. Thank you, Paulo Eagleton. Did
01:31:16 you say James
01:31:17 Woods?
01:31:17 Yeah, he's the he plays a Jew in the Holocaust miniseries,
01:31:22 seriously?
01:31:23 Yeah, it's it's Meryl Streep, James Woods, and then there's like some other people, but like those are like the some of the main characters, and they're all young, obviously, because you know it's from the '70s. But yeah, he he's he plays a a Jew getting Holocausted in the Holocaust. Then we got Simbi. Simby says, speaking of defiant, don't forget that watched or watchdefiant is still valid. Watchdefiant.com, all one word. Watchdefiant.com is a good place to go if you want to get, if you've got a. I'll tell you what, it's one of the the videos that that I feel like I got probably the most traction out of in terms of actually persuading white people to take their own side and to convince them that that yes, actually white genocide is real. I don't I don't think that. In fact, not to toot my own horn, it might be one of the most effective persuasion videos that exists for that. Yeah. So if you have friends that are maybe on the fence, because it's there's no commentary. I don't say anything. It's just people in their own words, and anti-white people, self-hating whites, and just clip after clip after clip after clip, and it's structured in a way to show the you know a white viewer that holy fuck, like this is this is a problem. Yeah, absolutely. If you want to convince someone, take them to watchdefiant.com. Thank you very much, there, Simby. All right, and I think that's it over here.
01:33:13 I got a few more. I think. All right, let me reload this. I got another one actually, real quick,
01:33:20 Snowy Jules says my husband just farted, and I think he shit his pants. Here's 10 more fucking dollars. P.S. We are fucking drunk. We love you guys. Well, there you go.
01:33:34 Gross, John Calabar. Have you looked into Westcott and Hort? They made new Bibles from different source. Before this, all the Anglo world was using the King James version, all new version to change passages. I've heard this from somebody. It was probably Dave Riley, but I have. I never looked into it, so I can't even opine. What about you?
01:33:58 I so Mormons only use the King James version of the Bible, and that's-I mean-so I grew up with that one, and I-I know there's a lot of people that try to say, well, actually, Christianity's not universalist because it's all because of you know these these random you know versions because there's like a million versions and you know people there's like the the plain language you know there's even one that's like in Ebonics you know like there's there's a billion different Bibles, but it's that's not it's not like you change a couple words here and there and and funnily like fundamentally the whole thing is is radically different. It's because the the churches that use the King James version, like the Mormons, like Catholics use the King James ones. Or no, do they not? What do they use?
01:34:52 King James.
01:34:53 They do. Okay, so I guess Catholics use King James, and you know, like I said, the word Catholic comes from the word. Likos, which means universal. I mean, it's. Oh wait, no,
01:35:02 I was wrong. It's Protestant. I'm so retarded.
01:35:05 Well, so I thought that because like King James, right? That's like it would be. Yeah,
01:35:09 I'm Catholic. This is what outrage. What what what do you guys use
01:35:14 then? Is like the the world Bible. They
01:35:17 don't use it because of incomplete canon translation choices and no mass usage. The the revised standard version Catholic edition is widely regarded as modern gold standard for Catholic study.
01:35:30 Okay, I wonder what's different. I mean, every time so you know, every time that if you go to the one of those websites and you look up a a passage and and it'll you know you can select which versions you want and it'll show you all of them. I've done that just to kind of like spot test and be like, all right, is this going to be radically different? It's not really usually radically different, and I mean the the substance of it it usually gets across. Sometimes not so much. I mean, but I don't think that's that's really. I mean, there's a lot of people that that, for example, will mention like the Scofield Bible and and you know all these different things. And it's like, no, I mean, at the end of the day, Jesus was still a Jew. You know, like what? I don't know that there's a translation where he he stopped being Jewish. You know, like or that the disciples stop being Jewish, or that you know, like the the universalism suddenly doesn't happen, you know, like
01:36:30 yeah. But Christianity, initial Christianity, was the revolt to Judaism.
01:36:36 Okay, but
01:36:37 against Judaism, the Jewish revolt, the
01:36:40 Jewish revolt, yeah, it was literally it was radical Jews going against the traditional Jewish religion with a new version of that was also Jewish. I mean, they were Jews. They were they were Jews, and I'm a low
01:36:58 point. I'm at I'm at a low point in my Catholic teachings and my my adherence to Catholic theology. Like, I can't. I can't right now. I got to figure this out on my own. Everyone, get off my case.
01:37:09 Well, look, look. I'm not saying can't
01:37:12 refute.
01:37:13 Look, there there are plenty of people that that acknowledge the Jewish roots and origin of Christianity, and that does just doesn't bother them. That's fine. I just find it weird when people can't admit that it's. I mean, it's the the whole New Testament is like just they're constantly quoting the Old Testament, which is Jewish. Yeah,
01:37:29 I mean, it's still Jewish. I mean, the it's like the Torah. So like, if the New Testament isn't Jewish, but like a good chunk of it is just quoting the Torah, that and they're in Jerusalem and they're having Passover, and they're circumcising themselves, and it's like, okay, at what point is it not Jewish? Come on, like, like it's Jewish, and it's look, that's fine. Like you can say, you can say it doesn't bother you that it's Jewish, and okay, but let's just can we not play games and act like it's not Jewish. So, and look, the Pope says it's Jewish. the The head of every Christian major Christian denomination in America, Mormons included, say it's Jewish. So I'm not the weirdo. Like I'm not the the the you know the the the fringe guy saying it's not Jewish, like every every major Christian denomination would say it's Jewish, and it just doesn't bother them. That's fine. So there you go. All right, I think that's it over here.
01:38:40 Me too. I'm sorry, you guys, about the stream ending.
01:38:44 Yeah, well, I'm sorry about yeah. That that was there's not much I can do about the power going out.
01:38:50 Of course,
01:38:50 and that's probably why the internet went out first. Is there was probably some electrical activity that created some electromagnetic pulses that disrupted the space internet enough to knock us offline, and then, you know, eventually killed my power. So hopefully, hopefully this is we don't have this problem again. But anyway, thanks for everybody for stopping by. I'll be back here on Saturday for the insomnia stream at 10 o'clock p.m. Pacific time, and and
01:39:28 sorry,
01:39:29 no, I was gonna step on
01:39:30 your
01:39:30 toes.
01:39:30 No, that's you and
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01:39:48 a purge because I I I think ever there's a lot of people that have lost like a few 100, like it it it all it happened like in one day, like I want to say like last week. There was like a purge of followers because there's a bunch of people lost like a few 100. So I think I don't know if that was like bots or maybe
01:40:09 you know something like that. Pissed off the
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01:40:26 right, you guys have a good rest of your week, and well, until at least until Saturday, and then I'm I'm sure I'm going to bum all you guys out. I'll try to make it a funny one this time. I'll try to make it a funny one. All right, you guys have a good day.
01:40:38 Bye bye.