INSOMNIA STREAM: NINJAS EDITION - 08/15/2026
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The stream recounts the 1985 murders of Gerald and Vera Woodman, English Jewish immigrants who had built a Los Angeles plastics firm, Manchester Products. After years of alleged profit-skimming, gambling, and family conflict, their sons Stewart and Neil—who had also taken company money—hired Steve Homick, a former LAPD officer later tied to Las Vegas enforcement work, along with Homick’s brother Bob and others. On Yom Kippur 1985 the killers, one dressed in black “ninja” clothing that drew contemporary press attention, shot the couple in the parking garage of their Brentwood condominium; investigators cited a life-insurance policy on Vera, efforts to stop Gerald’s competing business, bolt-cutter evidence, travel and phone records, casino footage, and cooperating witness Michael Dominguez. Stewart Woodman later gave a lengthy confession; the sons and Bob Homick received life sentences, while Steve Homick was sentenced to death and died in prison in 2014 without being executed. The episode then plays a Dave Ramsey segment in which a caller who had spent more than half a million dollars on her daughters’ education says she no longer wants to leave them an inheritance because they have become “socialists.” Ramsey replies that children are not entitled to an estate, calls socialists parasites, and says his own trust withholds management of family money from heirs who are not “walking with God”; co-host John Delony urges her to specify the behaviors that concern her and to discuss them directly. Host Devon Stack treats the Woodman case as an illustration of intergenerational greed and offers only limited agreement with Ramsey, arguing that withholding inheritance is sometimes defensible but is more often an excuse used by older parents.Catalonian Numbers Lady
00:00:00 Through a zero group through a 0250505 No, no, stop, 00005600, and three, and 20, and three, and 20, no.Vanilla Ice - Ninja Go
00:00:54 Go ninja, go ninja, go, go ninja, go ninja, go, go ninja, go ninja, go, go, go, go! Yo, it's the green machine guna rocks the town without being seen. Have you ever seen a turtle get down, slamming and jamming to the new sweet sound? Yeah, everybody miss the moon. Vanilla is filled with the new Jack Rose. Gonna rock and roll the place with the power of the ninja turtle face. Ice man, you know I'm not playing. Deviate to show what the photos are saying. Ninja, ninja,00:01:43 rap, ninja, ninja, rap, ninja, ninja, rap. Don't ninja, don't ninja, go, go ninja, go ninja, go, go ninja, go ninja, go, ninja, go ninja, go, go, go, go, go.
00:02:00 Lyrics fill in the gap, drop that face and get the ninja rap. Just feel it, if you know what I mean. Give it up, full of heroes and green, just flowing, smooth with the power, kicking it up hour after hour. 'Cause in this life, there's only one winner. You better ain't great, you can hit the center. In it to win it with a team of four ninja turtles that you got in the door. It's
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00:02:39 villains, you better run and hide, 'cause one day you might not slide. So choose your weapon don't slip. Vanilla's in control with effects of a microphone, rocking the crowd the way it should be. Rock with a Miami drop that you like a lot. You know it's hidden, like a ninja turtle when the bass kicks in. You better check the level, the power. All the ninja is strong, fighting off ice until the all-power gone. Ninja, ninja, rap. Ninja, ninja, rap. ninja, ninja rap,
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00:03:37 Out with the gladiator, baby.
The Cure - Lovesong
00:05:15 Wherever I belong with you, you make me feel like I am whole again whenever I'm alone with you. You make me feel like I am whole again. Ever come along with you? You make me feel like I am young again. Ever find a long way? You make me feel like I am fun again. However far away, I will always love you. However long I stay, I will always love you. Whatever words I say, I will always love you. I will always love you. Oh, I'm alone with you. You make me feel like I am free again. Whenever I'm alone with you, you make me feel like I am free again. However. However far away, I will always love you. However long I stay, I will always love you. Whatever words I say, I will always love you.Devon Stack
00:08:16 Welcome to the Insomnia Stream, Ninja. Edition. I'm your host, of course, Devon Stack. Hope you guys are having a good, good week, weekend. Halfway through August already. What the hell? What's going on, man?00:08:23 This is uh, like I'm traveling through time, you know they say as you get older, time does go faster, which makes sense, you know, because like when you're when you're like five, you know a day is like that's like a big chunk of your life, you know, you know when you're when you're 10, like one year, that's that's that's 10% of your life. But when you're like 30, you know, not so much. It's like what, like 3% of your life. It's all relative, I guess, right? It's all relative. So August, August is just slipping, slipping through my fingers like sand, like sand. Lots of sand out here. Anyway, hope you guys are are all having a good, good, good summer.
00:09:33 It's almost over already, right? Not for me, although it has been cool lately, which is kind of nice. Ah, you know, you know, you know, makes time fly or make it feel like it's flying. Gas prices. Oh, gas prices! I had to film the other day. Holy shit! Holy shit! Now our prices are are. I don't know. It's not like I don't like California prices, or at least I don't think so. But they're pretty high because I'm in the middle of nowhere, and there's not really a whole lot of competition for gas. That's how they get you, right?
00:10:14 It's like, well, if you don't fill up here, you're just gonna be out of gas in the desert, and you might die. So they can charge a little bit more, but yeah, holy shit! It's still it's still we're north of $5 a gallon out here, and it's kind of funny because, well, I mean, it's ultimately it's because of Jews, like most things, right? But because not just Jews directly, indirectly. More, more because of the the slavish the slavish behavior of our American politicians when it comes to Jews. I just thought it was funny.
00:10:54 I saw this on X, where you know this this also make you feel like time is flying, right? Trump just yeah just just two years ago just two years ago telling everyone how great it was going to be you know the the golden age isn't aren't we supposed to be like mid golden age right now yeah the golden age we were he was going to get gas prices down to I think what $2 is that what he says here.
Donald Trump
00:11:23 We will become energy independent shortly after, but start also on day one. Drill baby drill. We're going to bring your electric prices way down. We're going to bring your energy prices way down. Gasoline will be back to $2 and maybe even less than that.Devon Stack
00:11:41 Ah, less. It's gonna be less than $2. Ah, funny how that worked out, huh? Yeah, funny all these people that were telling me all these grandiose things that were gonna take place if, if only you gotta vote for Trump, Devon. You gotta vote for Trump because you know he's gonna make the golden age happen, and all the Mexicans are gonna turn into dust or pillars of salt or something. No, that didn't happen. This is like what? This is like the. This is just yesterday.Donald Trump
00:12:16 So I just say this. So for you to pay a tiny little bit more for your gasoline, just remember you're doing it so that a very evil country cannot have a country. Really, it's the number one state sponsor of terror in the world. We don't want to have them have a nuclear weapon. So remember that when you have to pay a little bit more, you're at $4. It's okay. I mean it's. I'm not. I'm not. I'll never apologize. I did the right thing, but you could, you know, if you.Devon Stack
00:12:46 Yeah, yeah. Of course, he'll never apologize. He'll never apologize. Why would he apologize? We're stopping the most evil country that's ever existed, right, from having nuclear weapons or whatever, and that seems to be turning out great, right? Doesn't that seem to be turning out great?00:13:13 We had like a a sailor just jump overboard the other day. Actually, I think there's two two that jumped overboard, and you know, you look at the condition of these ships. Like this, this is a U.S. naval vessel. This isn't like the Mexican Navy. Well, well, hold on. It depends on what you know. Maybe it kind of is actually. It kind of is. It kind of is like it's like the Mexican Navy and the African Navy. It's definitely not the U.S. Navy. I mean, look at this shit.
Navy Sailor
00:13:55 Now I'm just gonna basically do Chuck Berry.Devon Stack
00:13:58 Wow, isn't that fantastic? Oh, look at this! Wow, nice. You know it's funny because in all these clips that are getting passed around on social media of just to like how fucking shitty everything is, and it's shitty. I I can't help but notice the demographics. You know, the people who are in charge of maintaining these these ships. I mean, look, you can have an old ship and take care of it, right?00:14:31 A lot of this stuff is is just this is what happens when you have. In a way, this is a metaphor for what's just going to happen to the West generally, when the people who built it, who are capable of maintaining it, cease to be the ones who are, well, maintaining it. See what happens is it's it's no longer maintained. We've all seen the before and after pictures from South Africa, right? Same thing.
00:14:59 This is just happening. To our military now, so you've got just you know shit just falling apart, and of course blacks don't know that like maybe maybe don't post TikToks of like how shitty how how you know bad our our our military readiness is. Maybe that's not the best idea.
Sailor
00:15:18 So a couple y'all wanted to see how the ship look or the head look, aka the bathroom. The showers right here, you feel me? This is what we go through on a carrier in the navy. They say join the navy, right? Join the navy. And look at this, y'all. This is crazy. This ain't even the worst part, man. Sinks atrocious. Wait, y'all see the toilets, man? Look at the toilet. Y'all expect me to take a doodle in this, y'all? Nah, y'all crazy. Look at this. Come on now, join the navy, though, right? Join the navy. Yeah,Devon Stack
00:15:51 ah, sweet. That's pretty nice. Ah, yeah. Just expect more of that, like literally expect more of that. When people ask me, like they're all Devon, why are you so black pilled on you know things could turn around? No, no, they they can't actually. They they literally literally can't.00:16:12 They there's there's demographics are at the root of all this. Yeah, it's like saying, well, if we just elected like a white guy to be the president of the Congo, that they could turn the Congo around with that one white guy in charge.
00:16:30 No, ask the Chinese. Ask the Chinese how that's going. You know, trying to run Africa, parts of Africa, with high IQ Chinese administrators, it doesn't work out. We're losing our human capital, and so things are just well. I mean, in this case, quite literally going down the shitter.
00:16:52 So yeah, yeah, but hey, you know, it's it's worth it. It's all worth it having that $5 gas because I don't know. Does anyone know? And that's the thing too. Is that's necessarily who you have to have in your military.
00:17:10 When would when who like why else would you who's going to join? Who who's who who's who like what respectable person is going to sign up to go fight a war that doesn't get you anything other than expensive gas, and you know, and and these are living conditions.
00:17:34 So anyway, that that's that that shit's going on right now. I saw this article. No, we're gonna get we'll get to the ninja story here in a second. Saw this article today. This is from The Hill. Related story. Why Americans now hate each other more than ever. I don't think that they'll actually get to the root of the problem here. Let's have a little look.
00:18:02 See, researchers at the Marquette Law School poll recently identified a sharp generational decline in trust across the United States. Americans born before 1960 still hold on to a baseline assumption that their neighbors will not rob them, given half a chance, they are the most trusting demographic in the country.
00:18:28 Again, I wonder. I wonder. I wonder if they'll get to like why this is, and I wonder if they'll you know if they'll if they'll suss that out at all, right? So the people born before the Immigration Act of 1965, and in in a in America that was mostly white, they they they trust people, and they they don't think their neighbors are going to rob them. The numbers worsen with each successive generation.
00:18:58 Look at that. So basically, beginning the Immigration Act of 1965, the the cohort born in the 2000s registers the highest levels of distrust ever recorded by the project. Well, imagine that the the the high trust society just dissolving.
00:19:20 A significant portion of young adults operate under the functional premise that everyone else is a threat. Well, you know, that's that that's I I look I recommend that that way of operating. Unfortunately, for most well for most Americans in most part of the country, if you don't operate under that assumption, you're asking for trouble. Specifically, 53% of U.S. adults explicitly state that the average American has bad morals and ethics. This matters enormously. A society.
00:19:59 Cannot thrive when most people no longer believe their fellow citizens are fundamentally decent. Morality is the basic invisible software that prevents human primates-that's what they said. That's that's their words from tearing each other apart over grocery store parking spaces. It establishes the rules of engagement. When a population loses faith in that shared software, the entire social contract converts into a hostage situation. Viewing the opposing a political or cultural faction as mistaken allows for regular political debate.
00:20:48 Viewing them as beyond redemption eliminates the possibility of finding common ground. See, notice how they they haven't even touched on race. They haven't touched on race, nor will they. You do not negotiate with a monster. Instead, you try to destroy it before it destroys you.
00:21:07 This moral panic created an environment of pure, unadulterated contempt. For more than 10 years, tracing back, ah, it's Trump's. It's the it's the 2016 Trump Trump presidential election that has created this. I mean, their own data demonstrates that actually 1965 seems to be about the about the time that this began. But no, no, it was the 10 year. It was President Trump. The escalator descent in 2015.
00:21:41 America's dominant political emotion has evolved from anger into deep structural disgust. Relationship expert and Jew John Gutman spent decades analyzing why marriages fail, famously identifying contempt as the single greatest predictor of divorce, contempt.
00:22:05 Well, I think there's a lot of Americans that have a lot of contempt for their fellow "quote unquote" Americans. Gottman described contempt as a toxic mix of hostility and ridicule that involves placing oneself on a higher moral pedestal than the other person. In his research, once a couple begins communicating through eye rolls and mockery, the relationship is clinically dead.
00:22:34 A nation is nothing more than a vast network of interpersonal relationships. It is a giant marriage between millions of people, who never choose to live together, but have to share the same house. Do we though? Do we really? Right now, the American marriage is in the absolute final stages of a Gottman-style disaster. The partners are sleeping in separate bedrooms, hurling insults and actively wishing the other would slip slip on a patch of ice. I think I think I think people's imaginations are getting a little more creative than that.
00:23:12 I mean, we got the pit, you know, we've got the pit. I don't, I I've never you know cared for leaving it up to chance with a patch of ice. The primary reason this trajectory will likely worsen is that the incentives align perfectly with animosity, media algorithms. Oh, now it's now it's social media's fault, right? The rage algorithm, political fundraising operations. Well, Jews, you mean the cultural gatekeepers?
00:23:42 More Jews generate billions of dollars in revenue by validating this exact contempt. No, this is they-they're trying to divide this argument, I guess. Right? A peaceful, trusting populace is economically useless to the current infrastructure. Modern America has been built, or has built, a business model out of demonizing the person next door. Literally, as they're doing the, they're doing the boomer.
00:24:10 They're trying to divide this thing. It's the corporations, apparently. Apparently, it's it's the corporations have found that it's profitable to make all these people who have nothing in common, living in America, who would otherwise just get along, if it weren't for those fucking corporations trying to divide us, and that's basically what they get. I mean, that's what they they they they they insinuate that the the entire problem in America that began before the internet, you know, according to their own data that they talk about in this article. It began it began in 1960 something, right? And yet, really, what it is is it's it's some Facebook algorithms.
00:24:55 Facebook algorithms are to blame when it comes to. A complete collapse of social trust in the United States. Oh, good lord! Anyway, tonight I promised ninjas. I promised ninjas. I made you sit through vanilla ice ninja, ninja rap, ninja. Like the least creative, and this is saying something. The least creative Vanilla Ice song ever made. Oh, you know, when I was a kid, I liked Ninja Turtles, and I and I still and I and I liked Vanilla Ice to my shame. I was I was a little kid, okay, I was a little kid, Ice Ice baby.
00:25:40 I didn't know what what it meant. I I remember like our teacher letting us play it in class on cassette or something, and then she she she then banned the song because she there's like a a verse somewhere about a poisonous mushroom, and she's like, "That's about drugs, so we couldn't listen to Ice Ice Baby anymore, but Ninja Ninja rap was always bad. It was always a disaster.
00:26:10 Anyway, let's talk about ninjas, huh? Shall we? Our story tonight about ninjas starts in England. I know that's a an odd place for a ninja story to start, but don't worry, it comes to America rapidly. So the the who we're we're going to be discussing, well, of course, wouldn't be an insomnia stream if there weren't Jews involved here.
00:26:40 We got Jerry Woodman and Vera Woodman were Jews in England who came to America not around the not at the turn of the century no no post World War II which is odd because their excuse for leaving England to come to America was anti-Semitism and I'm like hold on so they they they they left an allied country to just go to another allied country. Was there was there like a rise in Nazism in in England? Well, according to these guys, there was
Narrator
00:27:12 Vera and Jerry Woodman were married in England, and they left to escape the anti-Semitism that was rising in Europe as the Nazis grew more and more powerful,Devon Stack
00:27:23 ah, the Nazis are growing more powerful in London in 1948. Isn't that the opposite of what happened? Anyway, so Jerry and Vera Woodman came into Los Angeles around 1948. They created a a company called Manchester Products. Manchester Products. There we go.00:27:49 Manchester Products was a plastics company, and it's kind of funny because I found a few documentaries about this ninja incident that we're going to be discussing tonight, and the earlier you get back, like the like one of the one of the documentaries is from the '90s, and the more the the the the whole the trope of the Jew Jewish immigrant that comes to America and just starts a company with his bare hands. In this case, a massive plastics manufacturing plant. It all started off with a hot dog stand, but after you know some some some elbow grease and and slanging a lot of hot dogs,
00:28:39 Jerry Woodman had a had a plastic manufacturing company, and that's the way they characterize it, basically in the 1990s one. But anyway, so he he has he has this big plastics company. A lot of what they manufacture, because around this time was also the time period that we started.
00:28:56 We as Americans decided to start torturing public school students with the high frequency flickering lights, like bathing the classrooms with fluorescent lights, and his company produced one of the more profitable items.
00:29:17 They produced were the plastic sheets, the the diffusers that would go into the little rectangle square or rectangle holes in the ceiling that had the fluorescent lights that they were putting in every public building and well pretty much every building beginning in like the 19 I don't know when. When did fluorescent lights start getting deployed? Probably around the 50s or 60s. So he starts making a killing, making different plastic products, and had his two sons. This is let's see here. Where'd my notes go?
00:30:02 Stewart. I think Neil is the other one, right? There we go. Yeah, Stewart and Neil. Neil's the skinny one. Stewart's the fat one. I kind of feel like I I kind of feel like Stewart's just like a fat name, right? Like if you didn't know any better, I just said one of these guys was Stewart and one of them was Neil. I feel like most people would would guess that Stewart's the fat one anyway. I'm not sure why, but it just seems like a fat name.
00:30:36 And anyway, the Jerry, their father, didn't want to have to like the the real reason he wanted them to work for his company is he didn't want to pay for their college, and so and he wanted to kind of get cheap labor. So he had his two sons work at this plastics company with him, and they were making a lot of money. But one of the reasons why Jerry was getting so rich is as a Jew, he discovered that if you don't follow any of the rules, the laws, the regulations that your you know goy competitors are following, it makes you more competitive, and you can pocket a lot of money. So he was actually skimming a lot of the profits, not reporting them, and then therefore not having to pay taxes on them, and that sort of a thing.
Narrator
00:31:25 He was very, very good at starting businesses and making money from them, growing them. And one of the ways that he was good at it was that he would steal most of the profit and never pay taxes on it. Jerry was a superb thief. He stole from his own business-not just one way, but a dozen ways.Devon Stack
00:31:45 Ah, he's a superb thief, Jerry the superb thief. So yes, he was a-he was really great at making businesses, and his his Jewish secret to to a successful business was was stealing. Jerry was also there. You know there he is with his wife Vera. He was also a degenerate gambler. He took several trips a year to Vegas with his pilfered money. He bet on horse races. He bet on dog races, and he was a notorious alcoholic.00:32:30 He had a mistress that he kept from his wife, that he paid to live or paid for her to live in the Beverly Hills Hotel, and you know because he had the extra money, he actually had multiple girlfriends that he kept from his mistress that he would bring with him to Vegas on trips and buy fur coats for. And I mean, he's basically a meme. His son Stewart, the fat one, he handled all the sales.
00:33:10 He handled the sales, but he was described as kind of like a a well, like a kind of like a a a one of these like well I was gonna say like a Harvey Weinstein kind of a Jew, but not really because I feel like Harvey Weinstein was more type A. This guy was more of like a jellyfish. This guy was more like he I mean he was just as gross as Harvey Weinstein, but he wasn't assertive at all. He would just kind of go with the flow, and in fact, here's a little here's a little anecdote that'll give you kind of a window into his personality. We
Jack Holder - LAPD
00:33:51 had somebody tell us that that Stewart called his mother on his honeymoon and said he wanted to come home. I mean, what kind of guy is that, huh?Devon Stack
00:34:00 Well, kind of checks out. So, so Stewart was kind of like the jellyfish weirdo mama's boy, and his brother Neil was considered more of like the alpha. And Neil handled the manufacturing. He was more into the technical side of things, while Stewart was the the sales guy.00:34:27 So these two boys, well, men, I guess, at this point, even though they've been working there since they were 16, they had no idea that their dad was skimming as much as he was, but they knew he was a raging asshole. They really fucking hated their dad. He had a peculiar sense of humor. If you knew Jerry Woodman, he was always shticking somebody. Shtick is like a needle. He was always needling somebody. He did his thing.
Donald Trump
00:34:59 And his thing was whatever he wanted to do.Jack Holder - LAPD
00:35:03 They didn't get along with their father, and he hated them, and they hated him.Narrator
00:35:07 He had no compunction whatever about humiliating them in front of the help. My father was always screaming and yelling at him, "You're stupid. You can't do this right. You can't do that right. My father got no thrill of yelling at people, unless it was if he had an audience for it. But he wouldn't just yell at me. He just cut you to pieces. I've never ever run across anybody my entire lifeStewart Woodman
00:35:29 that went through what I went through with my father. Oh, theDevon Stack
00:35:34 poor Jew. The poor Jew. I know what you're thinking. Where's the ninja? I I promise you, ninjas, ninjas are coming. We're gonna have some ninjas here, all right. But first, they have no idea that Jerry is skimming, and or at least definitely not the extent of it. He was he was skimming millions of dollars from the company, but being Jews themselves, they they took to it quite naturally.00:36:06 You know, I guess the apple didn't fall too far from the tree, and so the sons also start skimming from the the company. They start to take about $1,000 a week. I mean, this is by the way, give you the time context here that we're talking about. This is late 70s, but at this point, late 70s, early 80s. Okay, so this is it. Doesn't sound like a lot, but it's it's a lot when you when you factor in the the time period.
00:36:35 Back when gas was not $5 a gallon, so that they they start skimming about $1,000 a week from the petty cat each from petty cash. They also start to take eight to $10,000 a week as business expenses. They also decide to start taking $4,000 a month for a car allowance, but then drive a company car instead of using you know that I mean I don't know how you would possibly justify $4,000 a month, especially in 1980 for a car allowance. I mean you could basically buy a new car every every month.
00:37:19 I mean well in 1980, you might be able to buy multiple cars a month for that price, but they would drive the company cars and use the company gas cards, and you know they they just really took to it like their dad.
Narrator
00:37:38 Up to that time, the skim had been around a million dollars a year divided between the two sons, and another million that Jerry took.Devon Stack
00:37:50 So altogether, about they're skimming about $2 million. I mean, if you include all three of them, they're skimming about $2 million a year from the company, and this goes on for for quite a while. Jerry continues to gamble. He's not alone in that behavior either. The Suns begin to pick up that habit as well. They start going to Las Vegas all the time. They're playing different card games.00:38:20 They're playing craps. They're taking their wives and buying expensive jewelry, and this kind of lifestyle eventually catches up with Jerry when he eventually has a a heart attack. And for some reason, and from what I read, it doesn't make. I'm not sure what like how these two events are connected, but from what how it's reported, apparently him having a heart attack motivated him to get a life insurance policy on his wife Vera, a $500,000 life insurance policy on his wife.
00:39:04 Again, I'm not sure why having a heart attack would would give you that idea to do that, but that's what they said. So he has the heart attack, and he's now kind of out of commission. He's not able to run the company, and because he's not there working the books, he is. He can't dip into the the cookie jar as easily from the hospital bed that he's now in than he could when he was at the helm.
00:39:31 And in fact, to make things worse, his two sons, they're now running the company, and now they can take a look at the books, and they can figure out. Well, wait a second. Dad's been taking as much as the two of us combined. He's been skimming a million dollars when we've only we've only been skimming half a million. Again, this is you got to think of the context of the time too.
00:39:56 This is like this is about well. At this time, I think we're probably making. Around 1982, but still. So they they look at the books and they're like, "Well, Dad's Dad's taking all this money. He's kind of an asshole. We don't like him at all. And why don't we just we'll use we'll we'll go to our mother because we're Jews. We'll go to our mother, Vera, and we'll try to convince her to keep him away from the company.
00:40:28 And Vera was unaware of the skimming. She just thought the company was just doing really well. She didn't know about all the gambling. Obviously, she didn't know about the prostitutes and you know the mistress and girlfriends and all this sort of a thing.
00:40:45 The way that he kept the way Jerry kept Vera insulated from his double life was he would come home and give her the paycheck, the official you know by the books, paycheck that he got from the company, and just say, "Here you go, honey. You manage the finances, while all of his skimming was he kept in private accounts, and kind of operated that in the shadows.
00:41:15 And the sons knew this, and so because the sons knew that she was only aware of the official income that the father was getting, and that she was very concerned about his health after the heart attack, they approached their mother and they said, "You know what, Mom? We really feel bad for Dad. I mean, he works so hard. He works so hard, and he's working himself to death. Oh my God! I mean, for fuck, he had a heart attack, almost dropped dead right here at the office. That would have been no fun.
00:41:49 So how about this? How about this? We will keep running the company, and we'll keep giving you that check and all the benefits and everything, like all of his his income will will remain the exact same as it's always been. It's just that he doesn't have to come into the office anymore, and you know everything will be fine. He can stay at home and recover. You guys can spend some time.
00:42:15 I mean, you know, Dad's been working hard his whole life, right? You guys came here in 1948 to avoid all that anti-Semitism in England, and so maybe it's about time, right? Now that it's like 35 years later, maybe it's about time that you enjoy some of that hard work and just you know kick you know kick back a little bit and and let us let us run everything.
00:42:41 So she goes to her husband and says, "Well, I think they're onto something, Jerry. Jerry, I think they're onto something. I want you to stay at home and and not try to go into work. Besides, you know, you're you're not healthy enough to do it. And he's kind of caught in this difficult position, he can't explain to Vera here that like, well, actually, I kind of want to go into the office because I'm getting an extra million dollars a year that I'm spending on hookers and gambling, and so this kind of that kind of ruins that whole hookers and gambling habit that I've got, and he gets he gets really pissed off, and he decides that he's going to teach his his Jew boy sons a lesson.
00:43:30 And he he decides he's going to double down and go into the office and take even more money. And he does. In fact, he uses the company money to purchase four different racehorses, not to bet on them to actually purchase like you know four race horses. He also pays for a two-week all-expense-paid vacation to London for everyone that lives on his block. He starts betting more.
00:44:02 He starts buying more hookers, and then he decides to really stick it to his sons who tried to force him out of the company. How dare they! He's going to dissolve the company, liquidate all the assets, sell off all the equipment, and then leave them with nothing, just to be a dick. Well, unfortunately, unfortunately for Jerry, his sons were aware of a new California law.
00:44:33 A new California law that, because of the way their company was structured, that would allow them, once he decided to go down this road of liquidating all of the assets because of their official role, I'm not sure exactly if it was based on the shares that they owned or whatever it was, but allowed them to buy out the company at liquidation prices, and therefore. Or, in a sense, inherit the company, or at least purchase the company for pennies on the dollar, which was the exact opposite of what what Jerry wanted.
00:45:11 You know, he didn't want to leave his his Jew boy sons anything. So Jerry was defeated. He was tricked by his own greed, his own malice. Jerry was gonna. I don't know. Right off into the sunset. I mean, look look. He was still very wealthy after this deal. Jerry could have could have easily retired. Again, we're talking about this is 1984. I think at this point, he should have been happy.
00:45:39 He he would have had a 2 million again. This 1984 money. He had a $2 million mansion paid for, paid off. He had $750,000 in cash. I mean, if somehow he blew through all that, and then in the I mean, he was in his late 60s. If somehow he was able to blow through all that before he died, miraculously, his wife had nearly $100,000 in jewelry they could have sold.
00:46:09 They had, they had, I mean, they had it made. He could have just, just swallowed his pride. He probably could have kept getting hookers, and he could have bet on horse races till the day he died. But he didn't want that. He couldn't let his sons win. So what did he do? Well, just to be a fucking Jew about it, he said, "Fuck you guys! I'm gonna make my own company. I'm gonna make another company.
00:46:39 It'll be a competing company to the company you just bought from me. It'll it'll do exactly everything that the original company did, and I'll I'll know exactly what it did because I started it, and I'll call it Woodman Industries, and I'm gonna poach all of your employees, and I'm gonna steal all your clients, and I'm also going to just undercut your prices because I know what you charge for everything. I I I know exactly what it costs you to manufacture everything, and I don't care if I lose money.
00:47:18 I don't care if I lose all of my money. In fact, he sold his house, his $2 million mansion. He sold a lot of his wife's jewelry to all to fund this project to fuck over his sons, to to run a fake company that the the the the sole purpose of it was to financially ruin his sons. So yeah, he then start. You know, he's poaching their staff. Like here's a clip of Stewart talking about that.
Stewart Woodman
00:47:53 Then we started having salesmen tell us, you know, your father's offered us this, your father's offered us that. We lost. We lost several salesmen. We lost our sales crew, except for three or four main workers. We lost our crew of workers.Devon Stack
00:48:07 So they don't have employees anymore. They're losing all their clients, and this obviously really pisses off Stuart and Neil. Stuart and Neil are just like, what the fuck, man! Now the crazy thing is, even with all this going on, they were still making a lot of money.00:48:27 There must have been a lot of money in plastics, and I guess it makes sense, right? In the 1980s, early 1980s, especially in California, when you still had manufacturing going on in America, you had Silicon Valley. I mean, that's when Apple computers were actually made in America, and so you had a lot of electronics still being produced in California, which is you know I don't know 100% if that if that was part of their their portfolio, but I would assume you know if you're a big plastics company in the LA area, you probably you're probably not hurting for for clients around this time period, and the the profits they were making would would suggest that as well.
00:49:08 In fact, Stewart, who had this trophy wife that was obsessed with getting fur coats, built her a 1400 square foot closet just for her fur coats, so to give you an idea of how much money these fucking Jews were making on plastic, a 1400 square foot closet just for her fur coats. So this is another again. This is a story of greed. Just like the father could have left well enough alone, he could have been like, yeah, that's fine.
00:49:42 I got, I got pretty much a million dollars in cash. I got a $2 million mansion paid off. I got, you know, a few Mercedes paid off. I've got all this, you know, diamond and gold jewelry. I could just live out my life as like a crotchety old Jew and everything. Would have been fine, everything would have been fine. But no, I have to. I have to fuck over my sons because they they tried to trick me or something.
00:50:07 I don't know. The sons could have just let it go too. The sons could have just been like, all right, so dad's been a massive pain in the ass, but he can't do this forever.
00:50:20 I mean, the fact is, he's actually borrowing money from friends to run this fake company into the ground that is here that exists only to run our company into the ground. But eventually, I mean, like there's there's enough there's enough clients rolling around to where like I'm buying my wife a 1400 square foot closet full of fur coats, so things you know business isn't that bad, but no, they they they they wanted more. They wanted more.
00:50:49 Now, when they would go out to Vegas, they they met people, mob people, in Vegas, and one of the mob people that they met out in Vegas was Steve Homick. Steve Homick, this guy right here. Steve Homek was a a ex LAPD cop. In fact, he's kind of got an interesting backstory.
00:51:16 I believe when he was 13 years old, he convinced a recruiter that he was 18, and he was either the Marines or the Navy, but he was in he was in he was in the military from like age 13 to 17, and when they found out when he was 17 that he was yeah he's been in the military for four years and still wasn't 18, they gave him an honorable discharge and kicked him out.
00:51:45 He then decided to join the LAPD, went through the police academy, and at a time when the it was pretty much standard practice for the LAPD to use hyper violence against everybody, he he was so hyper violent that after four months of serving on the force, they kicked him out or kicked him out of the force because he was he was too violent for the LAPD of the 1980s.
00:52:21 So he he moved to Las Vegas, and he started out just he was a dealer at the at at the at the tables, and then he started working for the mob. He was a a collector for the casinos, you know, going after gamblers, breaking legs, that kind of a thing. He was a drug dealer, and he he worked with his brother who idolized him, and we'll get into that guy here in a little bit. And they would also run scams together.
00:52:58 Well, the the Jewish sons Neil and Stewart, you know they they as you can imagine they took right to this guy, and they started running scams where when they would come to Las Vegas they would let Steve know where to go to their house and steal things so that when they got home they could say oh we've been robbed and get a bunch of insurance money, but also keep the stuff that was quote unquote stolen, and then either Steve could unload it somewhere or take a cut or something like that.
00:53:32 But they were running insurance scams not just on like jewelry or or maybe some of Stewart's wife's fur coats, but also Steve would steal their cars, especially if it was a car they didn't want anymore, and then like go trash it or dump it somewhere, and they would get the insurance. They get a replacement or get the insurance money for it. So they meet this guy and they strike. You know, they they have like a a good friendship going on, and he becomes their go to guy for scams and also for security needs.
00:54:11 There's the $500,000 insurance policy that the the mother had. Now this comes into play because after doing a lot of this skimming and spending, and the father going after their business, they did have a little bit of financial trouble, and they thought to themselves, "Well, let's just go to mom again, and tell mom to to get him to stop doing this, and she sided with her husband over her sons, and so at this point they decided, well, you know what, fuck that bitch, fuck that yenta bitch.
00:54:55 What we're going to do is, I mean, it's only logical, right? We're gonna get that Steve Hammett guy and hire him to murder our parents. We're gonna hire him to murder our parents, and it'll be great because mom will be dead, and so we'll get half a million dollars that way, and that'll pay off some of our debts that we've got, and then that dad will be dead, so his stupid fake company that he started to run us out of business will will just kind of go away.
00:55:27 And so Steve Homick, with his brother Bob, and a Mexican guy named Mike Dominguez, and then some other dude as a lookout, they had a plan to go to the apartment complex where Jerry now lived because he had sold all of his belongings to fund his fake business that he was running to to destroy his his sons. So so he lived. It was still fancy, but you know he lived in an apartment now.
00:56:01 And what they decide a good plan would be is on Yom Kippur. On Yom Yom Kippur, they would wait for him to return home from celebrating with his family, and they would murder him in the parking garage under his apartment complex, and they were paid $50,000 to do the job, half up front and then half once the job was done. And so on the night of Yom Yom Kippur, 1985. I know you guys are thinking, are we going to get to ninjas? The ninjas are about to come. All right, the ninjas are the ninjas are almost here.
00:56:46 We almost have ninjas. So on Yom Kippur, Yom Kippur, 1985, dressed as a ninja. See, I told you there's going to be ninjas. Dressed as a Ninja Steve Hammack laid in wait in the parking garage underneath the apartment, and when Jerry and his wife Vera came home, he jumped out of the shadows dressed as a ninja, and shot them at point blank range, killing them both.
00:57:30 Now, when cops showed up, because I mean it was it was loud as fuck. I mean, try shooting a gun in a parking garage, right? You're gonna make some fucking noise. Police were instantly called. People saw a ninja fleeing the scene. I'm not kidding. We'll see an article about that in a second. So there was a ninja. The reason why that's kind of funny is, well, just like that stupid Vanilla Ice song, ninjas were in in the 1980s.
00:57:58 Everyone was like into ninjas, including that Steve guy, apparently that's why he dressed up like one, and so and people literally thought they were like ninjas, and they thought that ninjas apparently a a ninja assassin, a ninja assassin had shut up and and killed these old Jews for some reason, and they couldn't figure it out because this ninja assassin was clearly a professional, because as you can see here, Vera still had a really expensive ring. That if it was just a burglary, the ring would have been stolen.
00:58:33 They also noticed that her purse was untouched. You were gonna you know just be robbing robbing these Jews. You you know you would have taken that, and they're like, "Fuck, we got fucking ninjas on the loose. Ninjas unleashed on the LA. This was this is actually from a. This is from one of the reports of what to look out for. Look out for the ninja. There's a ninja with a katana blade. It's gonna. It's that's out. Everyone, watch out.
Jack Holder - LAPD
00:59:12 Clothing was described as a dark martial arts type outfit with a hood that covers the head. We don't know if it was a professional contract hit, all avenues are open.Devon Stack
00:59:26 So here's an article I found: Ninjas murder couple, Los Angeles. A couple returning home after celebrating Yom Kippur was killed by shots fired into their car by two men wearing black garbs similar to Japanese ninja warriors. Police said Thursday, Gerald and Vera Woodman were gunned down at 10 p.m. Wednesday in the underground garage of their condominium in the after.01:00:00 Brentwood area, 15 miles west of downtown Los Angeles, police lieutenant Ed Henderson said. Witnesses heard gunshots and saw two men clad in black outfits, ninja outfits, outfits no doubt, like those worn by ninja warriors. Or by people practicing karate. He said the type of weapon was not known. The Woodmen's, both in their early 60s, were immigrants from England. Henderson said Woodman was the retired owner of a plastics manufacturing firm in the San Fernando Valley.
01:00:49 The Woodmans had spent Wednesday with the family members to celebrate Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, poetic, which Jews consider the holiest day of the year. We can't establish robbery as a motive at this time, Henderson said. We've got to backtrack and see what these fucking ninjas are up to. mrs. Woodman was pronounced dead of the scene. Blah blah blah blah blah. All right, let's get more ninja stuff. The ninja, a secret society of Japanese warriors in feudal times. I can't believe.
01:01:32 Oh, the 80s. It was a simpler time, right? It's it's back when that high trust was a lot higher, and people were just like fucking ninjas, man. There's fucking ninjas out there. The ninja, a secret society of Japanese warriors, in feudal times used stealth and violence to carry out their missions.
01:01:54 The name lives on through ninjitsu, or ninpo, a martial art. In March of 1984, two youths wearing ninja outfits burglarized the Hollywood Hills home of Laverne and Shirley star Penny Marshall, which we'll get into a second there. Who summoned help by triggering an alarm in October of 1984. A man dressed as a ninja warrior killed two people in like maybe there was like a a ninja plague in the early 80s.
01:02:29 We already have like three ninja attacks here. Killed two people in Portsmouth, Virginia, before shooting himself to the last. Not much of a ninja. That's not the ninja way. Really, using guns generally is not really the ninja way, but you know, one resident of the Woodman's three-story building said he saw a gunman run out of the garage and escape down a rear alley, ninja style.
01:02:55 I was up to my, I was up on my balcony when I heard shots and ran down. The man told the Los Angeles Herald Examiner, requesting an anonymity. See, you guys know this is the word I can't ever say. I can read it. Anonymity. I don't know why. I don't know why. It's just that it's just. I'm got. We we got. We're gonna get through this together, guys. Anonymity. not gonna. Never mind.
01:03:24 I'm not gonna embarrass myself further. I anonymously. I chased him down the alley, but he was gone because he's a ninja. He took off with another guy. A ninja guy, most likely. Like Ninja Gaiden, which was probably a new game. Look, it was 80 early 80s was all Ninja all the time. Yes, I looked this up. the The Samurai Burglar thing. Apparently, this was like a thing. Apparently, some guy dresses a ninja, kidnap.
01:03:55 Well, I don't know, kidnap. More like held hostage Laverne from Laverne and Shirley. in 1984, just like a few months before this happened, so there was there was like a flurry of ninja attacks apparently in the 1980s. So anyway, Steve Homick, Bob Homick were the those were the two ninjas. Mike Dominguez was the lookout, and then I forget the other guy did. wasn't really consequential.
01:04:27 The cops immediately were suspicious of the sons. Oh yeah, forgot to mention. They also found on the scene that a chain used to secure the security gate had been cut by bolt cutters, and so they they collected the the pieces for for evidence. They found it odd that the two sons, upon learning that their parents had been murdered by ninjas. Had never attempted to call the police and be like, "Fucking ninjas murdered our parents. What are you guys? What what's going on down there? What are you doing to protect the public from ninjas?
01:05:11 For crying out loud, we got ninjas coming out of the fucking cracks in the ground. They're just crawling all over the place. And the cops were like, "This is weird. It's weird. It's weird that no one. They didn't want to know about the ninja thing. So they were instantly suspicious, and after interviewing several people, they got around to the Suns and they they finally called them. It had been a full week.
01:05:35 A full week had gone by, and the Suns had never seemed interested at all about the the ninja led demise of their parents, and the sons further raised the suspicions of the investigators when they insisted that the only way they would talk to the police is if they met at their lawyer their criminal defense lawyer's office. So the cops were pretty much like, all right. So you guys killed your parents at this point.
01:06:06 You guys killed your parents. We're gonna have to figure out this ninja thing. But something tells me you guys killed your parents. They they eventually find out that Steve Homek was involved because they offered up a $50,000 reward. Where do I have that somewhere?
01:06:33 I guess I don't have it.
01:06:35 They offered a $50,000 award for information leading to the identities of the ninjas and a couple of ex-cops who had worked security for the Jew boys, one of their sons, bar mitzvah, they had hired heavy security so that their father had tried to show up that he would be barred from attending the bar mitzvah because of this whole feud that was going on, and because they thought that their dad was so fucking Jew crazy that he might literally drive his Mercedes through the front of the synagogue, they had a heavy security presence, and it was all run by Steve Homick here, and the two cops became suspicious when they went to Steve Homick, who is, you know, running security, and asked them, "Well, what should we do if this guy's dad shows up?
01:07:34 And Steve Homek said, not jokingly, "Blow him away, shoot him, kill him, and the cops were like, "Well, we're not going to do that, but what, really? And it stuck with them, especially when they found out that the same guy that you know they were ordered to to shoot on sight was was murdered by ninjas.
01:07:56 So they they they went to police and said, "You probably should look into this Guy, there's something up with him, and they start to look into his his record in Las Vegas, and they start to talk to the casino security that is aware of him because he you know, he lives out there. He works with the mob and whatnot.
01:08:24 He's a known quantity out there, and they discover that the casino security people actually have footage of him talking to, I believe it was Stewart, but one, at least one, if not both of the brothers, Several times on the casino floor, and so they now have their connection to the the brothers. They also find out that he had purchased a ticket to fly to L.A. the night before the murders, and then flew back to Las Vegas the night after the murders.
01:09:06 They also know that one of his known accomplices is his brother. That's his brother Bob. Bob was not the smartest guy in the world, although he did pass the bar.
01:09:19 You see, Steve had some big plans of being a more than just like the small-time criminal that he was doing these insurance scams and and whatnot. He wanted to actually have a a mob type presence in Las Vegas and thought that if he could pay for his brother to go through law school, his brother could be like the you know, the the lawyer Jew type person that would that would get their operation out of trouble or or at least keep out of trouble and make everything look legit when when it really wasn't.
01:09:53 But because he sucked, even though he passed the bar, he never practiced law, and ended up. Just being kind of a a meat-headed, hired muscle type person, and and worked with his his brother on numerous heists, and so the cops get a search warrant to search Bob's apartment, and what do they find?
01:10:20 They find bolt cutters that have the that match because you can microscopically look at the blade of a well of really anything right. Like you can do this with like a knife blade if you're trying to identify if a knife stabs a a corpse, you know, or I guess what what then becomes a corpse?
01:10:42 You can you can look at the markings on the bone and kind of match up the markings on the bone to the blade of the knife. Well, a similar thing occurs when you use bolt cutters to cut through a a chain link. They can look at the chain link at the the right at the cut and see the imperfections of the blade of the bolt cutters, so they were able to match the bolt cutters to the the chain link that they or the the the link of chain that they discovered, and not only that, I mean not only what the bolt cutters in his house.
01:11:21 He the the receipt with his name on it was also in the house, so he couldn't even say that it wasn't his or you know that someone left it there or whatever. So they pretty much have the homex pretty thoroughly fucked. Now this is kind of funny. The way that they they really find Or tie the Jew boy Neil and and his brother Stuart to these ninjas, I guess you could say these amateur ninjas.
01:11:54 They thought they were being super sneaky by only communicating through payphone, and in fact, they would use several payphones during the day. They would try. They would drive all over town to different payphones when they were communicating directly with this this Steve guy. But because they were such fucking cheap Jews, the one thing that would have kept, that would have made that a a tactic to, to kind of separate yourself from the communication, you know, making it kind of anonymous, right?
01:12:31 Like if you're using a payphone, there's no bill that goes to your name unless you generate a bill in your name, because even a quarter to make a phone call on a payphone is too much to pull out of your own pocket, and you actually skim money, or rather use it as a you write it off as a business expense, which is exactly what they did.
01:12:58 So police were able to discover the communications, even though they were driving all over town trying to use different payphones to confuse the cops, they then wrote it in a ledger, so they could be reimbursed that one fucking quarter that they they would have spent on that phone call. So the yeah the cops are able to tie the the brothers now to the hitmen.
01:13:28 Of course, they then at this point subpoena the records for the entire plastics company. Once they move in on the plastics company, they're able to discover that there was a financial issue, well, actually, lots of financial issues, lots of skimming, and they they start to you know the the investigators' wheels are turning, and they also notice a the the payment the payment to the Ninjas.
01:14:02 So at this point, they they haul the brothers in, and they also find this the Mexican lookout guy. His name was Michael Dominguez, I think, and Michael Dominguez was threatened with the death penalty for his involvement in the murder, and he folded like a wet paper bag. He told them everything, told them about the planning phase and the brothers' involvement. So now they had a a star witness, and the brothers were fucked. They were booked, and after Stewart got convicted, because they tried him separately, Stewart got convicted first, and because this was back when at least the death penalty, in theory, was on the table in California, Stewart feared. That he was going to get the death penalty. So before the sentencing phase, he approached the police and said, "Look, if you don't give me the death penalty, I will rat everybody up. And he did. I could not find the full-length confession tape. It's like 10 hours long. I found a lot of different clips in different documentaries, but I couldn't find the the full length one.
01:15:26 But he for 10 hours just told everything he knew, everything about the skimming, everything about the the murder for hire plot and all that stuff, which you know was used to convict everyone else that was involved, including his brother. Now, they all got life sentences, except for Steve Homick. Steve Homek was given a death sentence, and one of the you know he was the trigger man, so that's part of why he got a death sentence, but also they they started to discover that he had ties to.
01:16:07 I don't think that these were ever proven, but the investigators in Las Vegas suddenly were like, "Well, let's give you know this guy a second look, and it and it it appeared as if he was involved in several murders in Nevada as well, but because the the system of actually executing criminals in the United States is broken, he died in prison. I think in 2014, at the age of like 76, but he never got executed.
01:16:39 You got to remember this this murder took place in 1985. He was convicted rather quickly. I think in by 1986 he was he was convicted. So he for 30 about about 30 years, about 30 fucking years, he just stayed on death row, and kept appealing, and kept appealing, and was never ever executed. He just lived out the rest of his days in prison. So he basically just got life in prison.
01:17:13 And Stuart Woodman and Neil Woodman, the Jew boy sons got life in prison. I'm pretty sure without the the chance of parole, and as did Steve Homax brother got life in prison with with without the chance of parole. So that is the the ninja story of 1985. Anyway, I just thought it was kind of funny because it was just like, what the fuck? Like, it's just it's just Jewish behavior is is what generated all of this, all these problems.
01:17:52 It was literally just greed at every every fucking step, and there was no reason for it. Like, they were making tons of money, they were making tons of money and living like the good life, and if all they if they were just if they could have just been satisfied with like a little skimming, or probably even with no skimming. I mean, it seems it sounds as if the company was pretty profitable, and so even without the skimming, they could have just been like alive, alive and not in prison, but they just they just couldn't handle it.
01:18:22 They couldn't handle it. Now, one thing I wanted to before we go to super chats, someone sent me a video, or at least they tagged me in some video on X, and I haven't listened to it yet. It's it's a Dave Ramsey episode, or not the full episode. Although once I put it on my timeline, or else it's kind of longer than I was expecting. That's not too. Yeah, it's not as long as I was. It's not too bad. Now I'm not sure exactly what I haven't listened to this yet, so I'm not sure exactly what takes place.
01:18:54 I did click through like a couple seconds, and I read through some of the comments just before I downloaded it to pop it in here. I get the sense. I don't know. We're about to find out. I get the sense this is about like boomers trying to make sure that their inheritance doesn't go to anyone that is descended from them. But I don't know. But I figure let's have a list, and then we'll go to Super Chats.
Dave Ramsey Caller
01:19:15 So I am looking for some guidance from Dave and Dr. Delaney about my will. I have two daughters, one of whom is doing very well financially. She and her husband are in the 1% and the other daughter earns about 50,000. And for several years, I felt uncomfortable about how to like divide up the assets. I'm an everyday millionaire, but more recently, I've gotten to the point where I don't want to give either of them any money.Dave Ramsey
01:19:54 Why?Dave Ramsey Caller
01:19:55 I I feel like I've worked so hard my whole life. I. For college for them, I've paid over half million dollars for college for them, and they've turned into socialists. But they have, and and well, you're still in theDave Ramsey
01:20:14 wrong college.Dave Ramsey Caller
01:20:17 Yeah, Monique, you're my favorite call. Maybe in two months, I know we're all laughing. No, we're with you. We're with you. I'm depressed. I'm very depressed about where I see my children heading, and I think I don't want my money to go to them, and I feel terrible about that.Dave Ramsey
01:20:39 You shouldn't. They're not entitled? They didn't hit the DNA lottery. They're not entitled. My children have been instructed since they were small that in order to get the opportunity to manage the money that God gave me to manage, meaning that I panned off the responsibility to manage some of the Ramsey fortune to them, they will have to be people of character. Socialists are not people of character. Okay, they're they're parasites, and so if my children are going to be parasites, I'm not going to finance their lives so that they have a reality show.Devon Stack
01:21:14 Well, I'll tell you what, there's more to it than that. We'll we'll keep listening. At least at this point, I've got mixed feelings. It depends on what she means by socialists, because look, as much as we, you know, we shit on boomers for not wanting to give their descendants any money.01:21:34 If this is an instance where that money would go to like Black Lives Matter activists types. I kind of I'm okay with them getting fucked over by boomers, you know. I kind of am, but I it's it's interesting to me though that you know Dave Ramsey, who I don't I I mean I I used to listen to his radio show occasionally many years ago, I didn't even know that he he was still on or he was doing a podcast.
01:22:06 But the the rapidity at which he instantly is on and starts to talk like almost brag about how he's also putting roadblocks in between his money and his and his children, I mean, again, I kind of get it that you want to have like a positive influence on your kids, and and and maybe some of that inheritance should be contingent on on at least some basics, but I I just feel like that's not that's usually not how it works out, you know.
01:22:40 In fact, I feel like it usually it acts as a almost like a an excuse that people can use to to not give their children money. It's like almost like well, if you didn't do everything that I would have, if you didn't live live your life exactly how I wanted you to live your life, then you don't get the money.
01:23:03 But I don't know. Let's continue. Let's see here again. I haven't listened to. Someone just sent it to me. I was like, you know, you could do a whole stream on this. I was like, well, not really. It's like a three-minute clip. So maybe I can do the end of a stream with it. Let's let's see.
Dave Ramsey Caller
01:23:13 Is there a way to put money in, let's say, a trust where they couldn't get access to it. To they were, let's say, 70 years old. Well, I mean, then they'd just be a 70-year-oldDave Ramsey
01:23:26 socialist, right?Dave Ramsey Caller
01:23:28 Well, but I, I'm hoping by then they will have kind of woken up.Dave Ramsey
01:23:32 You can. I put mine is my all of our estate is trust based, and our trust is. We've done it from a faith perspective, not an economics perspective, but if they're not walking with God, they don't get to manage God's money. It's what the trust says.Dave Ramsey Caller
01:23:50 Really?Dave Ramsey
01:23:51 Yep. In no uncertain terms. And so, so wait.Devon Stack
01:23:55 So his his his inheritance is is contingent on their religious beliefs. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Let's continue. YouDave Ramsey
01:24:07 know, in your case, you could change that lingo and just go. You know, when you become a capitalist, you get the opportunity to manage this money.Dr. John Delony
01:24:13 Monique, here's what I would do. I would take some time to distill down beyond the monikers and the report onDave Ramsey
01:24:20 Atlas shrugged.Dr. John Delony
01:24:20 What? That's fantastic, man. I am not usually at a loss for words, and you got me on that one, Monique. Here is what I want you to do. I want you to distill down beneath the quote-unquote word socialist or cat. What are the things that they are saying that concerns you?01:24:41 That you think that you are leaning into, and I want you to have a direct, straight conversation about what these things are, and then I want you to identify them. And like Dave said, it's your money; you can do what you want to with it. I've seen more and more over the last four or five years a lot of semantic shell games. I want you to. Talk to somebody. It's like, oh, we're way on the same page. I just thought this about this about that, right?
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01:25:04 I think you can say that you are not required morally, ethically, legally, spiritually to leave your money to people that you do not agree with how they live their lives.Dr. John Delony
01:25:14 Period. Full stop.Dave Ramsey
01:25:15 In there, right? So, now once you've said that, then you can start to have some discussions with them that are very gentle, and very life-giving, and very direct, and very kind, very kind, and very clear. And it's like, okay, you know, I've paid for all this stuff for you, and truthfully, I don't agree with the way you're living your life, and I'm not willing to finance that going forward. And so it's up to you if you want to do that. I'm not being controlling. I just want to let you know that I'm going to go ahead and do a reading of the will, and you're not going to be in it as long as you're living this way.Devon Stack
01:25:47 Well, I'll say I'll I'll say this: it's not it's not what I thought it was going to be, because to some extent I agree with this. To some extent, I I I I don't think this is the way it's in practice most of the time, but just as an example, like if your kids were fags, would you want to give them a bunch of money? I mean, I wouldn't. But at the same time, it's kind of like, well, you're the one that raised the fags. You know what I mean?01:26:12 Like some some of that's got to be on you. You know, they came from you. But like I said, I don't think this is this is the these are the these are the types of exceptions that are being made right now, when the older generations refuse to give their gener when they basically liquidate their generational wealth. In fact, see that's the funny thing with even with the story tonight about the ninja Jews, that's the same. It's it's a similar problem, right?
01:26:47 Like you had this conflict between an older generation of well, in this case, you know the the the Jew the Jew example is a little unique, but you had this older Jew who essentially was mad that his kids turned out like him, you know, because he was kind of a dick and fucking people out of money, and then he raised these two kids, had had them start working at his company at the age of 16.
01:27:16 So he taught them everything that they knew, and they ended up basically exactly like him, and then he's all surprised that they're trying to fuck him out of money, and then he he spends the rest of his life until they murder him with ninjas, trying to to financially ruin them.
01:27:36 Now again, that's that's a little bit of a unique unique example. I don't think that's analogous to what's going on with a lot of normal, normal American white people these days, but there is sort of there is some you know there there is sort of this kind of a thing going on, where you have these the older generations raised with this ideal that somehow it's it's virtuous. It's virtuous to withhold your your money and your wealth from your children because it's the only way that they will. It's tough love, you know.
01:28:13 Somehow it's it's tough love to deprive them of resources, and that that's the the only way they'll learn to make resources is if the you know if if you don't give them resources, I mean even though that that flies in the face of the whole it takes money to make money, which it does, and rich you know truly rich people don't do that. It's like you know the the famous quote from Donald Trump when he said that he got a, what was it? Was a was it 10 million or no? I think it was 100. It was 10 million, I think.
01:28:45 He said he he received a small loan of $10 million from his father to get started, and you know, and so you get this. You get a lot of people that think that they're being clever and smart, and oh no, it's kind of like when the the mama bird knocks the baby bird out of the nest, and they gotta learn how to fly somehow.
01:29:07 And it's like you know, a lot of times that's just used as an excuse to just go on a lot of fucking cruises or buy an RV for $200,000 that you you know drive to the Grand Canyon maybe once instead of helping your kids afford a down payment on a house or something like that.
01:29:32 But yeah, I yeah I don't know with this very with this very specific example under very narrow narrow circumstances, I could see how. I don't know. I wouldn't have that big of a problem with with depriving your children of inheritance if they were legitimately working for the anti whites. But that's obviously not how she views it. That's the thing too.
01:29:59 I I would if it was characterized like that I would 100% without even thinking about it yeah like if your if your children are working against the white race then yeah like you know put them in the pit along with all the rest of them you know at that point but anyway all right let's take a look at uh let's take a look at at some super chats and stuff. Why not? Kind of a short one tonight. Had a long day.
01:30:28 I've had a. I've just had a long day. Had a long couple days. All right, let's take a look here. We got love and division, love and division. You know, this is not like I'm. I'm looking for. We're just gonna do this. Does that work for you, love and division? Love and division says I had a Jewish boss in the 1980s.
01:31:00 His son was in a fender bender. The next thing you know, the son is outfitted with a neck collar brace. Absolutely, absolutely. You know, it's funny. Before I understood the answer to the Jewish question, or even that the Jewish question existed, back when I was a normie, that thought that oh no, they're just like they're white people that have a different religion.
01:31:28 I also worked for a Jew for a while and observed very Jewish behavior, and I just thought it was unique to him. I didn't know that this was like a a you know a pattern of of behaviors that was observable in across his entire race, but it's funny because looking back, it's just like wow, he was just like super fucking Jewy. He was just super fucking Jewy. His name was Stewart, actually.
01:31:55 Now that I'm thinking about it, he wasn't super fat though. He wasn't skinny, but he wasn't like Harvey Weinstein fan. All right, thank you very much. Love and division. Then we got Simbey. All right, Simbey. Simbey says, "Would you be interested in recording some lines for a game trailer? If so, what would you charge for about 100 words? Ah, I mean, can't you?
01:32:39 You can. I'll tell you what. In this specific instance, I give you permission to AI my voice. How about that? I don't know if I'm going to be doing like voiceovers, but you can AI my voice. I don't know how many 100 words. See, if I was going to voice it, I would probably just AI in my own voice. Actually, how how many is that like? Why can't I picture like what is it like a page? I don't know what what what what do you got in mind, Simbey?
01:33:14 Tell you what, Simbey, DM me on on X the script. I'll take a look at it. Maybe I'll just hook a brother up. I'll take a look at it, and or or or just AI my voice, but I'll take a look at it. All right, thank you very much, Cimby.
01:33:36 Then we got Reaver from Craigslist Says Davon, how prevalent is emotional and psychological manipulation in LDS women? Seems like most of the Mormon women that I've met browbeat their husbands, and the women wear the pants, i.e. Ruby Franck. I don't know who Ruby Francke is.
01:34:00 I'm gonna look that up. That's not my experience, though. Maybe that's because my family is like old stock Mormons, like, and they're not Utah Mormons are a different animal. I've I've discovered, but in my immediate family, it's very traditional gender roles. Ruby Francke. Who the fuck is this?
01:34:26 Is an American former family vlogger. Oh, I know who this is. This is that uh, that lady that uh was like torturing her kids. I don't think that's representative of like Mormon women, but look, here's the thing: there is a type of Mormon woman that I think you're probably that you you you you would be right about a very specific type. There is like a type A. Almost like a boss girl Mormon woman that I typically find in Utah, and they're usually like really you know well put together in terms of like appearances.
01:35:16 Like they you know they're very very pretty and they've got like the the the sufficiently large family, you know, to to signal that they're do you know they're doing their part, like like this woman that you mentioned, and they they all you know they they they maybe they run like a small business or something, and they and they and you're right they'll they'll have like some browbeaten husband that works like 80 hours a week, and to to afford all these like fucking millions of kids that he has, I I have seen that.
01:35:50 But that I wouldn't say I wouldn't say that's the norm, but that that woman definitely there is that that is a type that is a type, but that's not that's not the type that's not a type that exists, at least not in my immediate family. There might be someone. I mean, you know, big families. I'm sure there's. I mean, there's a lot of people. There's a lot of Mormons related to me, like a lot.
01:36:11 Polygamy, you know, that'll do it. But, but as far as like, you know, that being the norm in in most congregations, probably not. I mean, there's. I feel like in every congregation probably has like one or two of these women, but that's probably true of a lot of a lot of religious groups. All right, then we got Noland Findley says ammo is relatively cheap right now. Wouldn't be surprised if in a few years it's hard to come by.
01:36:45 Who knows? It could be worth its weight in gold in a decade or so. Yeah, you know, you can never have too much ammo, right? And I, it does like technically go bad, I guess, after a while. But, and maybe I'm I'm sure maybe gun people will will tell me that I'm wrong, but I mean I've I've shot bullets that are old as fuck and I've never had them any and by that I mean like 10 years old 15 years old maybe even older and I've never had them not work if if properly kept, I would assume those things would, you know, that most ammunition would last a long time. I don't know. Again, I don't know.
01:37:29 Maybe maybe at a certain point, it's you know you're it's you have mixed results, and it's probably dependent on the brand and and everything else, the quality of the ammunition, but yeah, stockpiling on ammunition is never a bad idea. Good to know that it's cheap, and you can get that.
01:37:49 At least I think you can still get ammunitions shipped directly to your house. Still, you know, so I might be able to look. It's been a while. I've I've just got I've got a bunch of ammunition, so I don't. Maybe I should go shooting if it's cheap now. Maybe I'll blast through some of my my cheaper ammo with like the the steel. I have like some I have some cheap shit that's got like steel casings that needs to. I need to blast through that stuff.
01:38:17 All right, then we got Astroless 725. nectarine moons. All right, we got a Astrolus says this is a good one. If thieving Jews and killer ninjas are the main characters of the story, I'm always surprised. Thanks, Devon. Well, I appreciate that, Astrolus. Yeah, well, you know, in in roundabout ways, there were ninjas involved. It's funny. So they actually, in one of the documentaries I watched about this, they they actually hauled in some other ninjas.
01:39:15 They were just like ninjas in the '80s, apparently doing crimes, and that that they thought had done it, but then they found out that those those particular ninjas were actually in jail the night of the murder. So they they couldn't have been those ninjas. All right, then we got Astrolus again.
01:39:41 All right, Ashwala says Denise the Celt. Funny, but it also is kind of disturbing to see how one group of people manage to display disgusting traits. The no one else copies. Hopefully, I'm not sure what that was in response to, because I don't see what her comment was. But there you go. Thank you very much. And then we got Randall Flagg says, "I've gotten a job offer from outside Provo, Utah. It's a very good offer. And looking at the website, it's almost all white.
01:40:22 My question is, what can a lot of Mormon questions tonight? What can be expected from LDS work culture? No idea what to expect. Hardcore like Protestant work ethic, like hardcore. I mean, they built.
01:40:37 You got to think of this way: these are people that, well, if if they're if they're like you know descended from like the original Mormons, like these are people that in many cases filled a wheelbarrow up with their shit and walked from like New York, like New York Harbor to Utah with a wheelbarrow full of their shit, and then built a a city in the middle of a desert before air conditioning existed.
01:41:04 So, yeah, hard workers, hard workers. Typically, again, obviously not across the board, and dysgenics has been affecting every community. So you know, results may vary, but if you're just asking generally, there's a a distinct culture of service and and hard work. At least it's been it's been many years since I attended church, but like that was the the culture when I was there.
01:41:34 So I would expect it's it's just like a I would say an amplified version of Protestant work ethic. Randall Flagg then says it was exactly a year ago you covered the Wichita Horror, which many consider the worst black-on-white crime of the 21st century. From what you said, the Kansas Supreme Court is somehow half Jewish. Um, I don't remember, but yeah, if I said that, then yeah, I look because I looked them all up.
01:42:05 But well, I mean that would make sense because I think the first Jew on the United States Supreme Court was around the turn of the century. So by that time, we already had like Jewish lawyers were a dime a dozen by the 1950s, so that case was from late 90s, and so that yeah that that would make sense that like half of the the state supreme court would be Jewish. All right, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. Then we got Night Train. Night Train.
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01:42:51 White power.Devon Stack
01:43:06 Nitrane says Jewish business is an oxymoron. Well, I would say Jewish work. Jewish business is certainly is not an oxymoron. I would say Jewish work is an oxymoron because there's certain there's lots of Jewish businesses. But thank you very much, Night Train. All right, scroll, scroll, scroll. Then we got likes to watch. Says as much as I want to catch the streams live, I like listening to them during the work week.01:43:45 Thanks for what you do. Well, I appreciate that. Likes to watch and apparently likes to listen during the work week. So thank you very much for the support there. All right, I think we might be good. I'm just gonna double check because I've been getting yelled at that I'm missing stuff from the the early part of the I guess the pre stream. So let me just double check that before we bail out of here. Let's see here.
01:44:18 Where do I go for this dashboard dash? and then we go to I think account overview. Yes, that's true. Let me back up here. What's the first one? All right, now we're good. I think. Okay, let me close that out. All right, guys. Well, I hope you have a good rest of your weekend.
01:44:44 We'll be back here on Wednesday, 5o'clock p.m. Pacific time, for an episode of Outlaws, and then I'll be back here on Saturday, and hopefully I'll be a little more, I'll be more well rested, and we'll do a more extensive. Stream for next Saturday, but in the meantime, I hope you guys enjoy the rest of your weekend. For Black Pilled, I am of course Devon Stack.
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